Mourinho quitting? (merged)

hgblue said:
johnmc said:
didactic said:
These billionaires its always about one upmanship I wouldnt be suprised if our owners went for Jose just so noone else has him.

Get what your saying but I hope thats not the case. Mourinho would be here two years max I would guess whereas Mancini I can see being here long term.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Mourinho has said that he wants his next job to be in England, and to be a long term project.

Allot of people bang on about how long he stays at places. He fell out with the Russian because he was medling in team affairs, something our owners wouldn't. Well we wouldn't force him to buy a has been for 30 million. Went to Inter won everything then the Madrid job came and no coach turns that down he will win the league there but he's not happy that the players don't even bother to listen cause there to up their own arse. If we get him great if we don't great. Win. Win. Only downside is if we do get him Balotelli is of to AC straight away lol.
 
Mark - TheBlue said:
hgblue said:
johnmc said:
Get what your saying but I hope thats not the case. Mourinho would be here two years max I would guess whereas Mancini I can see being here long term.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Mourinho has said that he wants his next job to be in England, and to be a long term project.

Allot of people bang on about how long he stays at places. He fell out with the Russian because he was medling in team affairs, something our owners wouldn't. Well we wouldn't force him to buy a has been for 30 million. Went to Inter won everything then the Madrid job came and no coach turns that down he will win the league there but he's not happy that the players don't even bother to listen cause there to up their own arse. If we get him great if we don't great. Win. Win. Only downside is if we do get him Balotelli is of to AC straight away lol.

50 million.
 
Mark - TheBlue said:
Allot of people bang on about how long he stays at places. He fell out with the Russian because he was medling in team affairs, something our owners wouldn't.

I disagree with that. Brian Marwood is the Board's representative who meddles in team affairs. Hughes kicked up a stink because he didn't want a Director of Football between him and the Board and Mancini was more tolerant of it. Marwood was Cook's appointment (jobs for the boys) and I'm surprised he's still here in some ways.
 
peoffrey said:
Mark - TheBlue said:
Allot of people bang on about how long he stays at places. He fell out with the Russian because he was medling in team affairs, something our owners wouldn't.

I disagree with that. Brian Marwood is the Board's representative who meddles in team affairs. Hughes kicked up a stink because he didn't want a Director of Football between him and the Board and Mancini was more tolerant of it. Marwood was Cook's appointment (jobs for the boys) and I'm surprised he's still here in some ways.

Good point didn't think of it. Well if we do get Jose we should just let him get on with it. Hope we don't interfere with Roberto anymore when it comes to transfers even though this window I'm sure he said he wanted to but was told no.I'm not sure though.
 
Isn't there a 20m buyout clause for Mourinho regardless of him resigning?? Thats what I heard.

That straight away will put alot of teams off whrn you consider you have to pay Mourinho probably the highest manegerial wages in world football.
 
didactic said:
Mark - TheBlue said:
hgblue said:
I'm sure I read somewhere that Mourinho has said that he wants his next job to be in England, and to be a long term project.

Allot of people bang on about how long he stays at places. He fell out with the Russian because he was medling in team affairs, something our owners wouldn't. Well we wouldn't force him to buy a has been for 30 million. Went to Inter won everything then the Madrid job came and no coach turns that down he will win the league there but he's not happy that the players don't even bother to listen cause there to up their own arse. If we get him great if we don't great. Win. Win. Only downside is if we do get him Balotelli is of to AC straight away lol.

50 million.

shevchenko was 30m?

wasn't just him either that caused the tension.

thing you have to ask about Jose is how much do we want Carvalho? not much really.

I'm not sure about Jose, I think our squad needs a couple of tweaks and additions, whereas I feel he'd want to tear chunks out of it.

I think Chelsea 04/05 is better than we are now, but then again Mourinho also presided over Chelsea 06/07(how much of that was Roman?), the early Inter of Mancini(the winger) and Quaresma, the fact prospects like Santon didn't prosper under him and he, like Spurs and FC Bayern profited from the stupid Real transfer policy that got him Sneijder.

At Real, well we haven't seen Sahin for one reason or another, he hasn't sparked a revival in Kaka, De Maria and Ozil are great imo, Callejon is decent but he also bought Altintop :/.

He's a mixed bag despite the trophies he's won, and neither Chelsea nor Inter have recovered properly from having him, for whatever reason.
 
Agreed but you are looking at it from a footballing perspective our owners are rich and have the ability to do things just for the gesture (Robinho). Mourinho is considered one of the best managers in the world he is the super elite I am afraid they might just get him because they can.
 
I don't want Mourinho here. I don't trust him and think he'd be off like a shot if another glamour club came a calling - notably the rags.

Mancini had more to do than just buy players to sort this club out - he had a deep rooted mentality to get rid of - the one that has dragged this club down for far too long.

I don't think Mourinho could have hacked it had he been appointed when Mancini was. He's too mard and stroppy - Mancini is hard and it's his way or the highway. You don't fuck with Mancini or you're out - as a few players well know.

Mess Mourinho about and he has a tantrum and threatens to leave.

Don't like using ferguson as an example but in this case it's appropriate. Even his best players, Beckham and Stam for example, weren't excluded from the I am the boss and you will do as I say or else. Like him or not, you can't deny that he has done pretty well with that approach.
 
daveduke67 said:
I don't want Mourinho here. I don't trust him and think he'd be off like a shot if another glamour club came a calling - notably the rags.

Mancini had more to do than just buy players to sort this club out - he had a deep rooted mentality to get rid of - the one that has dragged this club down for far too long.

I don't think Mourinho could have hacked it had he been appointed when Mancini was. He's too mard and stroppy - Mancini is hard and it's his way or the highway. You don't fuck with Mancini or you're out - as a few players well know.

Mess Mourinho about and he has a tantrum and threatens to leave.

Don't like using ferguson as an example but in this case it's appropriate. Even his best players, Beckham and Stam for example, weren't excluded from the I am the boss and you will do as I say or else. Like him or not, you can't deny that he has done pretty well with that approach.

It does amaze me reading posts like this about Mou/Mancini. They are equally arrogant, equally stroppy, and equally driven. Neither man as a manager will suffer fools and neither will be messed around. You say that Mou would have a tantrum and threaten to leave if he felt he was being messed about. You do know that Mancini had a tantrum and threatened to leave for Juventus towards the end of last season.

It's interesting just how badly Mou's reputation has been damaged by his stint at Real Madrid. I'd hazard a guess that that is one of the reasons why he may just jack the job in even after winning the league this season. The Barca/Madrid hegemony in Spain isn't going to be broken any time soon which has created a magnified importance upon a rivalry which is already as fierce as any other. Whether he wins the war or not, by not winning the el classico battles on the pitch and by fuelling controversy off it he's allowed the pressure to get to him, possibly for the first time in his coaching career.

I can understand why he wants to come back to England. The media love him - his coaching methods and tactics won't be scrutinised half as much as the have been on the continent - and lets face it, he'll be managing in the most difficult and competitive league in the world.
 
daveduke67 said:
I don't want Mourinho here. I don't trust him and think he'd be off like a shot if another glamour club came a calling - notably the rags.

Mancini had more to do than just buy players to sort this club out - he had a deep rooted mentality to get rid of - the one that has dragged this club down for far too long.

I don't think Mourinho could have hacked it had he been appointed when Mancini was. He's too mard and stroppy - Mancini is hard and it's his way or the highway. You don't fuck with Mancini or you're out - as a few players well know.

Mess Mourinho about and he has a tantrum and threatens to leave.

Don't like using ferguson as an example but in this case it's appropriate. Even his best players, Beckham and Stam for example, weren't excluded from the I am the boss and you will do as I say or else. Like him or not, you can't deny that he has done pretty well with that approach.

Why would he want to go to the rags when we'll overtake them both on and off the field?
 

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