Mourinho

[inbetween]

He will win us the Champions League if he comes here but he will not leave a legacy

Classic.

Because he will jump ship and we will head into the same crap every other club he managed has? Porto are second fiddle in their league, Chelsea have become something of a joke, Real Madrid almost did it last year but couldn't get over the final hurdle but they are a shadow of their team last year and Inter just 12 months after parting company with Mourinho and having their most successful season in many years, finished 6th, barely managing the Europa League...

Arguably the only team that has had any lasting effect thanks to Mourinho is Chelsea and they have virtually unlimited resources anyway so their success is more down to the money than Mourinho. Look at Inter, Mourinho leaves and they capitulate, this shows that he is a great manager but also he is a mercenary out to answer only to himself.

What about planning for the future, putting in a football philosophy which will run a generation, Barcelona have always been one of those teams that compete at the very heights, a couple of years ago they won every trophy in every competition they entered and all of that with a team of nearly 5-6 Catalans. The new people in charge at city are overseeing the biggest academy build in the country, a world class academy, we need a manager who will influence the way players are brought up, the way we play has to be ingrained into them and we will reap the rewards in the future.

Mourinho will stand for none of this, his input into the academy will be very minimal, just look at the young talent he brings through at Real Madrid... Thats right none! He will demand the highest wages, the best players at the highest cost and then give us a few good seasons and then he'll leave, where do we go from there, this club is worth more than that.

We have the resources to win the Champions League very easily, but to build our club into what the owner expects takes more than winning a trophy, it's about building something more and having the right people in charge who will care is important.

My vote goes with Mancini because of what he has done so far but it also would second go with Guardiola who has something to not only prove but also he would give the young lads a chance and he will put some of the best players in the world on the pitch with them. Having that experience would only result in one thing.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

MSP you mean like Zabaleta did yesterday and does every week?Like most of our players do every week? Remember their reaction on the 13th May this year? I expect a similar reaction on the 19th May next year (not least beacause it would be great to watch them lift the trophy on my birthday!!)

We are going through a littleblip at the moment but we will come back and they will all fight to the end.

We've been shite for the whole season and its almost January hardly a little blip. 11 wins in 27 games with the squad we have is not good enough.

 

[cleavers]

Having a want it now mentality has been hell for the past forty years ;).

Indeed it has, well side stepped ;-)

 

[MSP]

MSP you mean like Zabaleta did yesterday and does every week?Like most of our players do every week? Remember their reaction on the 13th May this year? I expect a similar reaction on the 19th May next year (not least beacause it would be great to watch them lift the trophy on my birthday!!)

We are going through a littleblip at the moment but we will come back and they will all fight to the end.

My death grandma would play 13th May game like it is her last one. Player who wouldn't should be excluded from rights to have legs :)

But I don't see full passion in all our players and I've already mentioned Zaba, Kompany and Micah, could certainly some more but not to degree Mourinho does with his teams.

It's not only work ethic, I can't say our players don't work enough, it's hard to me to explain on English but I'd want more of that animal look in their eyes, I'd want them to be more dirty and less nice.<br /><br />-- Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:26 pm --<br /><br />

I like predators mentality he installs in his teams, he somehow makes his players to feel big loyalty to club their playing for and to fight til death on the pitch.

I assume you mean JM.

Not working this year is it ?

Not working results wide and he obviously lost part of that team but those players won't lose that part he installed in them when he leaves. Just like Terry isn't and he reportedly wasn't his best mate at Chelsea.

 

[hgblue]

Having a want it now mentality has been hell for the past forty years ;).

Indeed it has, well side stepped ;-)

Not at all. I make no apologies for wanting the best manager possible at the helm, and that's Mourinho imo.

 

[mackenzie]

Well I for one don't want Mourino anywhere near my club thank you!!

Mancini is the best Manager for us, he has led us to the FA Cup, the Premiership title and the Charity Shield (or whatever it is called this season!!) and he will bring us the Premiership title again this year and very soon the Champions League. So let's stick with stability and keep Mancini thank you very much.

I don't want him near us either.

However, Mancini seems to have stalled and that isn't good.
Last season we were fantastic, but this season we look like mannequins.
We are not doing what we did last year.

Every team has a hiatus now and then but, in my opinion, that doesn't mean we have to change the manager immediately. Let's face it we are still 2nd in the Premiership and there is time for us to get back to the top. I remember last season people going into meltdown when we were 8 points behind and I kept saying, and getting laughed at for doing so, that the Boys in Blue never give in and we shouldn't give in on Mancini either. Like Arnie they will be back, better and stronger.

And I remember your posts on here at the time and they were pretty bloody fantastic ;-)

However, the old Boys in Blue lost it eventually because the team fizzled out.
Allison tore them apart and lost all cohesion whilst wanting to offload significant players and needing to build a team that represented him.

The difference now is that we don't need that.

 

[MCC]

You might also want to look into Klopps time at Mainz......that could make you see things differently

Exactly. Klopp was relegated at Mainz, stayed with them but failed to achieve promotion. This season they are miles behind Bayern.

 

[Keith Moon]

Real Madrid, #3 in the league, 14 points after Barca, 33 points after 17 games, this in a shitty league with a superior team to City.

Yeah, geting their manager seems like a "great" move...

 

[cleavers]

Having a want it now mentality has been hell for the past forty years ;).

Indeed it has, well side stepped ;-)

Not at all. I make no apologies for wanting the best manager possible at the helm, and that's Mourinho imo.

You didn't answer the points I made though, anyway best for what ? Winning everything every year, winning something every year, playing the most exciting football ? Does he come with a money back guarantee ?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

There's a reason clubs are left in various degrees of dissaray when Jose leaves.

Quite simply, nobody does it better. Chelsea know that better than most.

For me, it's gotta be on like Donkey Kong.

I see the head of communications from Etisalat is one of the main speakers at the Dubai conference.

If Sheikh Mansour needs to send out a message to anyone, his fingers are in a lot of pies.