Negativity

blueinsa said:
Not one player other than Hart can come off that pitch eysterday and say they gave it everything, not one.

We could have played any formation you care to name yesterday and the outcome would have been the same as the players refuse to do any work off the ball and some wont even do it on the ball these days.

Pellegrini makes mistakes but he is gone come the summer. Pep in cahrge yesterday and we still get stuffed if the players play like they did.
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But the outcome would not have been the same,if the correct players were on the pitch from the word go.
So we have to put up with the same mistakes until pellers goes,well we might as well stop the season now.
I would be amazed and disappointed if Pep would let any player/s play like they did yesterday or the way they have been playing for weeks
 
As a 'supporter' of Manchester City I will always try to be positive about my club

Nobody dies when we lose..other clubs lose far more often than we do..if that makes me a 'happy clapper' (anyone who uses that term is a **** btw) then so be it

I just don't get some 'fans' who constantly moan about the club..even worse..the 'fans' who slag it off to fuck

We are all disappointed when we lose..but some take it to ridiculous levels of lunacy

I walked out of the Leicester game gutted..but me and my mates agreed Leicester played really well

Teams lose..it happens..it's what makes football exciting

Next week I'll be 'supporting' my team again..hopefully we will win and keep the cunts at bay
 
blueinsa said:
Not one player other than Hart can come off that pitch eysterday and say they gave it everything, not one.

We could have played any formation you care to name yesterday and the outcome would have been the same as the players refuse to do any work off the ball and some wont even do it on the ball these days.

Pellegrini makes mistakes but he is gone come the summer. Pep in cahrge yesterday and we still get stuffed if the players play like they did.
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i dont disagree with what you say about the effort the players put in but, we have played more games than anyone in the league and we have 7 very important players out who cant share the work load. so playing the right players and tactics in any game becomes more important, he manuel, got it wrong again and not for the first time.
 
I think the injurys are catching up on the team, Leicester looked so much sharper.
Demichelis is no way good enough for this team, he can't even do basic defending & Toure needs resting for a few games.
 
Chappie said:
Usual bullshit,you have a different opinion,your a rag.
No debate No forum
If you don't like differing opinions, go and read a City programme, they toe the party line.
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I'm all for debate and negativity but there is so much with no constructive backing and some calling for changes, when changes are already in place. Some slate players when our options are limited. The luxury of a forum not directly affilliated to City is debate. I would never call a fellow blue a RAG, but the crisis on here is tantamount to "Van Gallstone out because Pep is coming"
 
blueinsa said:
Not one player other than Hart can come off that pitch eysterday and say they gave it everything, not one.
We could have played any formation you care to name yesterday and the outcome would have been the same as the players refuse to do any work off the ball and some wont even do it on the ball these days.
Pellegrini makes mistakes but he is gone come the summer. Pep in cahrge yesterday and we still get stuffed if the players play like they did.
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Correct but would Pep have played such a slow defence when he had other options?
More to the point do you think we would have also had the poor performances such as Stoke, Liverpool, Spuds and Villa?
Losing against Leicester isn't the problem. Losing against Leicester after a number of other poor performances is the issue. Also, nobody seems concerned when we scrape a win as we did at Sunderland. The problems have been here for a while but haven't been addressed.
 
Totally agree with the OP.

We have the best owners in the world with one of the best squads which is about to be strengthened considerably and be managed by the best manager in the world and some people moan.

Get a grip.

As for some of the current squad would you work hard for you boss if he said you would be let go in three months time?
 
East Level 2 said:
Correct but would Pep have played such a slow defence when he had other options?
More to the point do you think we would have also had the poor performances such as Stoke, Liverpool, Spuds and Villa?
Losing against Leicester isn't the problem. Losing against Leicester after a number of other poor performances is the issue. Also, nobody seems concerned when we scrape a win as we did at Sunderland. The problems have been here for a while but haven't been addressed.
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Pep in charge already would have seen him playing those games with an ebtirely different squad and thats the truth.

No point in asking what he would have done with MdM as a CB because he wouldnt have been here and the same can be said of other players.
 
IanBishopsHaircut said:
As a 'supporter' of Manchester City I will always try to be positive about my club

Nobody dies when we lose..other clubs lose far more often than we do..if that makes me a 'happy clapper' (anyone who uses that term is a **** btw) then so be it

I just don't get some 'fans' who constantly moan about the club..even worse..the 'fans' who slag it off to fuck

We are all disappointed when we lose..but some take it to ridiculous levels of lunacy

I walked out of the Leicester game gutted..but me and my mates agreed Leicester played really well

Teams lose..it happens..it's what makes football exciting

Next week I'll be 'supporting' my team again..hopefully we will win and keep the cunts at bay
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I think a lot of people agree with you, including myself, but it feels like Groundhog Day and the problems we have at the moment haven't exactly surprised many.

It all feels avoidable and like there are steps that can be taken (dropping certain players/ not hoofing the ball up to a tiny front man surrounded by a giant defence) but it just repeats at least every other week.

That's where the frustration comes from IMO and it's perfectly justified. The important thing is that this negativity doesn't turn into us booing the players during game time.
 
IanBishopsHaircut said:
As a 'supporter' of Manchester City I will always try to be positive about my club

Nobody dies when we lose..other clubs lose far more often than we do..if that makes me a 'happy clapper' (anyone who uses that term is a **** btw) then so be it

I just don't get some 'fans' who constantly moan about the club..even worse..the 'fans' who slag it off to fuck

We are all disappointed when we lose..but some take it to ridiculous levels of lunacy

I walked out of the Leicester game gutted..but me and my mates agreed Leicester played really well

Teams lose..it happens..it's what makes football exciting

Next week I'll be 'supporting' my team again..hopefully we will win and keep the cunts at bay
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Excellent post and puts everything in perspective.......without doubt the bet team won and the score probably flattered us.
However, I have never been a Pellegrini fan....really did think we won the league despite him....I saw his team selection and thought for once maybe he has got it right ( apart from maybe Kolerov).....it was the set up of the team that was wrong.... Delph on the left wing instead of protecting what we all know is a fragile back four and again exposing Yaya to a 2 man midfield.....then he totally gave up on the midfield with his substitutions.
The point of my post is that people have every right to criticise Pellegrini......but we need to remember without doubt we have the greatest owners in the world .......the best coach in the world is on his way.....who would without doubt have us points clear in the table with the current squad.
We have every reason to feel disappointed after yesterday.....but any negativity should be directed at the manager and then the players....but the future of the club is bright !
 
kiam06 said:
Totally agree with the OP.

We have the best owners in the world with one of the best squads which is about to be strengthened considerably and be managed by the best manager in the world and some people moan.

Get a grip.

As for some of the current squad would you work hard for you boss if he said you would be let go in three months time?
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But that exactly is the frustration. We have one of the best squads and yet have not managed to beat a team in the top six, been humbled by Spurs, Pool and now Leicester. If the team was playing to its potential and applying itself people would be more accepting. Fans are the same the world over, its not unique to City fans, showing desire to a fan is a prerequisite of representing the club. These players short change us.
 
Pelegrini needs to understand the English game.... We were never going to beat a team who are playing with as much passion as Leicester have (at the moment), with tippy tip tap patient percentage play.

It should have been a defensive setup preventing their counter attacks... Of course it would have been better to match their work rate and out play them that way but our team just don't have that.
 
franksinatra said:
But that exactly is the frustration. We have one of the best squads and yet have not managed to beat a team in the top six, been humbled by Spurs, Pool and now Leicester. If the team was playing to its potential and applying itself people would be more accepting. Fans are the same the world over, its not unique to City fans, showing desire to a fan is a prerequisite of representing the club. These players short change us.
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Yep the performances haven't been good for a while now and it's not being less of a City fan or Anti City to point this out, If United win today then I see even bigger problems ahead. Real Madrid fans are the most plastic set of supporters on earth nothing I see from City fans rivals them.
 
franksinatra said:
But that exactly is the frustration. We have one of the best squads and yet have not managed to beat a team in the top six, been humbled by Spurs, Pool and now Leicester. If the team was playing to its potential and applying itself people would be more accepting. Fans are the same the world over, its not unique to City fans, showing desire to a fan is a prerequisite of representing the club. These players short change us.
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The team are not motivated they are aware of the changes coming and know most of them will be gone.

Sorry but it's the best you are going to get until Pep arrives.

Our owners can't do everything overnight.
 
We have been absolutely horrible this season - bar the first 6 games.
Even games we have won we've usually struggled and made hard work of - often coming from behind.

With all the injuries I just don't see any light for this season.
 
It's not so much the defeat but the manner of it. Little commitment especially from the midfield and loose passes from the likes of Silva that we never used to see. Yes the defence has looked shaky but let's not forget the potential 6 points dropped in four 0-0 draws this season where the defence has done its' job but the strikers have not come up with the goods. Ultimately we were beaten by the better side yesterday but there still aren't too many in the PL who are better over the season.
 
It's the collective attitude and lack of urgency and desire that is starting to really get to me. Added to the fact that they seem to be sent out onto the pitch without any game plan. I'm seriously wondering if it's worth the time and thousands of pounds worth of commitment I put in when the players don't do the same. At least pep will really shake things up and we need it.
 
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