Neo-Nazi admits terror plot to murder MP with machete

Ricster said:
Maybe it's about time to start discussing how and why are so many individuals starting to become radicalised?
Whether it's a revenge attack, whether its been motivated by some of these horrible bastards on twitter, maybe its the way and sometimes lies spread by the media, or maybe its the example our government sets.

Something has to change before more innocent people are killed again due to a 1 man muppet and his belief or those that have helped him reach that belief.
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There will always be individuals unhappy with their lot who are weak enough to join in and persecute the individual that they see as at fault - be it the fat kid at school the Pakistani guy who owns a corner shop or a Polish guy who has set up a building firm - its easier to blame someone else for your own inertia. Its not that not starting a business or buying a shop is a bad thing - we can't all do that. The Polish builder need brickies etc- we can't all own the business or no work gets done but some people whether it be through envy or weakness will join in stigmatising somebody else - its human nature
 
Ricster said:
Maybe it's about time to start discussing how and why are so many individuals starting to become radicalised?
Whether it's a revenge attack, whether its been motivated by some of these horrible bastards on twitter, maybe its the way and sometimes lies spread by the media, or maybe its the example our government sets.

Something has to change before more innocent people are killed again due to a 1 man muppet and his belief or those that have helped him reach that belief.
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Mentally ill or thick as pig shit. Take your pick.
 
Honestly I believe the memory of the Holocaust is the only thing that stops a massive race war.

Nothing gets people at it like race.
 
bluethrunthru said:
There will always be individuals unhappy with their lot who are weak enough to join in and persecute the individual that they see as at fault - be it the fat kid at school the Pakistani guy who owns a corner shop or a Polish guy who has set up a building firm - its easier to blame someone else for your own inertia. Its not that not starting a business or buying a shop is a bad thing - we can't all do that. The Polish builder need brickies etc- we can't all own the business or no work gets done but some people whether it be through envy or weakness will join in stigmatising somebody else - its human nature
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Nice to see you avoided the obvious stereotypes. ;)
 
bluethrunthru said:
You tell us - you narrowed it down to two sound bites - what were you thinking?
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Tell you what? I’m asking you a question. If my two reasons were too simplistic tell me what would make you carry out these sorts of attacks. I wouldn’t so when you’re ready enlighten me.
 
hilts said:
Tell you what? I’m asking you a question. If my two reasons were too simplistic tell me what would make you carry out these sorts of attacks. I wouldn’t so when you’re ready enlighten me.
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I have no idea pal - your brevity prevented me from understanding what you meant. Care to elaborate? Mentally ill or something? What are you suggesting?
 
bluethrunthru said:
I have no idea pal - your brevity prevented me from understanding what you meant. Care to elaborate? Mentally ill or something? What are you suggesting?
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I think we are at crossed purposes fella the answer from you is quite simple it’s either you wouldn’t do it under any circumstance or you can think of one . Struggling to work out why you can’t answer a simple question.
 
hilts said:
Tell you what? I’m asking you a question. If my two reasons were too simplistic tell me what would make you carry out these sorts of attacks. I wouldn’t so when you’re ready enlighten me.
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You can just tell he is a right smarmy prick in real life haha!
 
hilts said:
I think we are at crossed purposes fella the answer from you is quite simple it’s either you wouldn’t do it under any circumstance or you can’t think of one . Struggling to work out why you can’t answer a simple question.
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Because you talk in riddles - mentally ill or thick as pig shit. One could be a diagnosis one a personal assumption. I know some pretty stupid people none of whom I'd expect would blow themselves or other people up. I know people who have issues - not necessarily the same as mental issues but they have some problems like autism etc but I cannot see they would do the same either. Yet you think people with mental health issues or who are not as intelligent as you would blow themselves and others up? Fascinating insight into your thinking I suppose.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Because you talk in riddles - mentally ill or thick as pig shit. One could be a diagnosis one a personal assumption. I know some pretty stupid people none of whom I'd expect would blow themselves or other people up. I know people who have issues - not necessarily the same as mental issues but they have some problems like autism etc but I cannot see they would do the same either. Yet you think people with mental health issues or who are not as intelligent as you would blow themselves and others up? Fascinating insight into your thinking I suppose.
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You daft bugger where did I say because you have a mental issue it means you will take a machete to an MP. Whose being simplistic now? Give me a reasonable answer as to why this knob jockey would want to take this action that isn’t covered by him being mentally ill or downright stupid.

Yet again this isn’t hard. If you believe it is too simplistic give me one other reason. Shouldn’t be hard for you if you are correct.
 
hilts said:
You daft bugger where did I say because you have a mental issue it means you will take a machete to an MP. Whose being simplistic now? Give me a reasonable answer as to why this knob jockey would want to take this action that isn’t covered by him being mentally ill or downright stupid.

Yet again this isn’t hard. If you believe it is too simplistic give me one other reason. Shouldn’t be hard for you if you are correct.
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err- I never said you did say that

Ricster
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Maybe it's about time to start discussing how and why are so many individuals starting to become radicalised?
Whether it's a revenge attack, whether its been motivated by some of these horrible bastards on twitter, maybe its the way and sometimes lies spread by the media, or maybe its the example our government sets.

Something has to change before more innocent people are killed again due to a 1 man muppet and his belief or those that have helped him reach that belief.

You -

Mentally ill or thick as pig shit. Take your pick.

Me

that is too easy a diagnosis - too much of a cop out

You-

Let me put it another way in what circumstance would you plan to kill an mp or blow up kids?
 
so -

Because you talk in riddles - mentally ill or thick as pig shit. One could be a diagnosis one a personal assumption. I know some pretty stupid people none of whom I'd expect would blow themselves or other people up. I know people who have issues - not necessarily the same as mental issues but they have some problems like autism etc but I cannot see they would do the same either. Yet you think people with mental health issues or who are not as intelligent as you would blow themselves and others up?
 
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