New Contracts (Kompany signs until 2019 - page 52)

[GStar]

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Someone else who doesn't understand how buy out clauses work

Can you do a brief explanation of this? I understand the way contracts of athletes work here in the States, but I do not know how these contracts always seem so volatile for European football clubs.

Buy out clauses work in favour of the player and the buying club only.
They set a price that states that the player must be sold if the given amount is offered.
So for example, let's say that we put a 100m buy out clause on silva. If someone offered us 100m we would have to sell him.
However, if someone offered us a tenner and we were happy to accept that price, we could also sell him for that.

They are not common place in England but are so in Spain due a law they have over there which says every player must have one.
Spanish teams often put on a huge buy out clause to stop other clubs from buying them at a cheaper price, but if they want to sell them for the cheaper price they are free do so.

"Someone else who doesn't under stand about buy out clauses..."

"the player must be sold if the given amount is offered"

Not true.

If a club chooses to meet the buy out clause it simply means the player cannot be prevented from talking to the potential incumbent, buy their current club, should he wish to do so. There is no obligation to move.

 

[Infirmus Cygnus]

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Someone else who doesn't understand how buy out clauses work

Can you do a brief explanation of this? I understand the way contracts of athletes work here in the States, but I do not know how these contracts always seem so volatile for European football clubs.

Buy out clauses work in favour of the player and the buying club only.
They set a price that states that the player must be sold if the given amount is offered.
So for example, let's say that we put a 100m buy out clause on silva. If someone offered us 100m we would have to sell him.
However, if someone offered us a tenner and we were happy to accept that price, we could also sell him for that.

They are not common place in England but are so in Spain due a law they have over there which says every player must have one.
Spanish teams often put on a huge buy out clause to stop other clubs from buying them at a cheaper price, but if they want to sell them for the cheaper price they are free do so.

I'm all in favour of buy-out clauses. They're fucking brilliant.

Baconface activated the clause Phil Jones had to drag him to the swamp from Blackburn. One of the most hilarious buys he ever made.

 

[Pokes28]

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So if that is the case, how is what Liverpool did with Suarez legal when Arse wanted to buy him last summer?

 

[Rammy Blue]

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So if that is the case, how is what Liverpool did with Suarez legal when Arse wanted to buy him last summer?

Because Liverpool just had a clause in Suarez contract saying they had to INFORM him of a bid over £40mil, not a buyout clause. I assume it was just certain wording in the contract that wasn't crystal clear as Suarez thought it was a buyout clause.

 

[117 M34]

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Can you do a brief explanation of this? I understand the way contracts of athletes work here in the States, but I do not know how these contracts always seem so volatile for European football clubs.

Buy out clauses work in favour of the player and the buying club only.
They set a price that states that the player must be sold if the given amount is offered.
So for example, let's say that we put a 100m buy out clause on silva. If someone offered us 100m we would have to sell him.
However, if someone offered us a tenner and we were happy to accept that price, we could also sell him for that.

They are not common place in England but are so in Spain due a law they have over there which says every player must have one.
Spanish teams often put on a huge buy out clause to stop other clubs from buying them at a cheaper price, but if they want to sell them for the cheaper price they are free do so.

Ah, I see.

So Messis reported 200 Million buy out clause is of no benefit to Barcelona.

Thanks I get it now.

No it isn't. If they were willing to accept £30m (yes, I know they wouldn't) then we could buy him for that, if he wanted to come, regardless of any buy out clause, whether it be 30m or 300m.

And yes, of course it is up to the player to agree to a move, I wasn't suggesting any player could be forced to move somewhere as a result of a buy out clause - again in favour of the player not the clubs.

 

[Bluwhit]

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Sorry to disappoint but Silva hasn't signed a new contract.

 

[CityStu]

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Intuition suggests that there must be some benefit to the 'selling' club, otherwise why would some associations stipulate that a player's contract must contain a buy-out clause? Unless the perceived benefit is that they can take advantage of the buy-out clauses of players at other clubs.

I suspect it also gives the 'selling' club a stronger hand in negotiations. A player can't really push his club to lower their demands in order to sell him if he's signed a contract with an acceptable minimum release fee. Look at Porto (<a class="postlink" href="http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fc-porto/transfers-alle/verein_720.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fc-po ... n_720.html</a>) as an example of a club utilising release clauses to get absolute top dollar for every big name they let go of: James Rodriguez, Moutinho, Hulk, Falcao, Bruno Alves, Meireles, Lisandro, Lucho Gonzalez, Cissokho, Quaresma, Bosingwa, Anderson (haha), Pepe, Maniche, Carvalho, Deco and Ferreira have all gone for over £10m in the last decade (many bringing in much more).

 

[Bilboblue]

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Sorry to disappoint but Silva hasn't signed a new contract.

I'd err on MCRJON's side rather than yours.

 

[Citizen Green]

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Fantastic news if true.

 

[Cityinmyheart]

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Please be true....