New fans/tourists are embarrassing

Damocles said:
This whole thing is bullshit. I don't care where you are from. I don't care how long you have supported City. If you say you're a City fan, then you're alright by me. The moment we start to divide ourselves into subsections is the moment that our worryingly quickening slide into becoming United fans is finally complete.

Everybody has always been welcome at City, and I wouldn't change that for the world. Those who are in the "but I won't get a ticket!" brigade should probably ask why you deserve a ticket when you haven't got any loyalty points.


Amen, brother.
 
Q8-Blue said:
machiavellian said:
Funny thing is, you say where would 'we' be without Sheikh Mansour's investment, well the club would be in mid-table and we would attending every week as per, whereas you would've chosen to 'support' Chelsea because you're fond of the colour navy blue, or admire Torres' flowing blonde locks.

As you say, we were blessed to have 'such a wonderful owner' take the reigns, you weren't, as you've said yourself you knew nothing of us in 2008.

But now you try to equate your feelings of the club to ours after 'supporting' us for 12 months?

That should go some way to explaining why the likes of yourself are so disparaged by the rest of us.

On another note, I find it pretty fucking shameless that you'll compare your story of half-heartedly searching for a club to 'support' from the comfort of your armchair after developing a passing interest in football after the World Cup, to that of a man with absolutely nothing to his name, living in a war-torn third world country who by a chance meeting with a charitable blue in his country formed a relationship which began with small-talk about football, and soon developed into a charitable aid excursion encompassing football with a goal to provide local children with an alternative to crime, while providing a flittering distraction from their struggle with crippling poverty with help to arrange football tournaments and providing the necessary kit and transport to do so.

Also funnily enough, Armani (the man in question, in the first picture you posted) opened the Sierra Leone supporter's club in 2003, long before any potential glory or trophies, when we still played at Maine Road in fact. His supporters club is now the biggest City supporter's club outside of the UK.

A tale of admirable courage and the great efforts of a charitable man to aid someone whom he'd developed a close relationship and greatly empathised with.

You on the other hand, made a callous, cold, logical choice to 'support' City 12 months ago after developing a passing interest in 'soccer' following the World Cup.


If you wish to understand why your presence is so resented, by myself at least, read this;


But it's nothing personal, you're simply a prime example of the spineless, characterless gloryhunters I grew up despising. And, by and large, I just think the likes of yourself are pitiful tits, mate.

I hope that was succinctly put.





Wow what an abusive and presumptive post. You're 21 well mate, I'm 24 In my short life i've been through Severe Psoriasis and severe Psoriatic Arthritis were my knees and ankles were so swollen i was paralyzed for a year, the only thing thats keeping me out of a wheel chair is my wife and an injection i take every two weeks which weakens my immune system because of that injection i was diagnosed with latent tuberculosis where i had to receive anti-biotics everyday for 9 months, why am i telling you this?

Because for a 21 year old you have such a cynical and elitist attitude about you, you abuse people, without cause, and make assumptions about them when you don't know anything about their lives. Well as i discovered the hard way nothing in this world is guaranteed, especially your perceptions of our club, yes its my club just as much as it is your club.
Oh yeah and that post you wrote earlier a teenager being left out and isolated, not that unique of a story

He still probably thinks he's 'suffered' more than you because he had to endure Jamie Pollock and the odd leaky roof at the likes of Port Vale.

Sorry to hear about your condition Q8. Glad to hear you've got a good woman to stand behind you.

You're very welcome as far as I'm concerned. Speaking as someone who doesn't conform to the prototype of what a City fan should be I would also echo your sentiments about whose club this is.

4ome of our fans display a sense of snobbery towards fans that don't comply with their ideal of what a City fan should look or talk like that they would never accept if it was directed at them in other spheres.

Who the fuck is anyone to say on behalf of the rest of us whether someone else is a 'proper' City fan or not?


I didn't appoint them? Did anyone else?

We've all got our reasons for supporting this club. Not everyone's is because they were born in Manchester, like me.

Anyone who was there in the dark times can look back upon that with great pride. As we get more successful, don't let that pride turn to bitterness because not everyone else has been along for the whole ride. Get over yourselves.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
4ome of our fans display a sense of snobbery towards fans that don't comply with their ideal of what a City fan should look or talk like that they would never accept if it was directed at them in other spheres.


The good thing is that these fans are very much in the minority at matches. In nearly ten years I've only had someone have a go at me for my accent once. His mates told him he was a dickhead and to STFU.

Funny thing was that he was chanting USA, USA, USA at me. As I'm not from America it gives a fair indication of the intellect of the few people that think they're above other blues.

Other than that I've never felt anything other than welcomed at games by blues.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
He still probably thinks he's 'suffered' more than you because he had to endure Jamie Pollock and the odd leaky roof at the likes of Port Vale.

Sorry to hear about your condition Q8. Glad to hear you've got a good woman to stand behind you.

You're very welcome as far as I'm concerned. Speaking as someone who doesn't conform to the prototype of what a City fan should be I would also echo your sentiments about whose club this is.

4ome of our fans display a sense of snobbery towards fans that don't comply with their ideal of what a City fan should look or talk like that they would never accept if it was directed at them in other spheres.

Who the fuck is anyone to say on behalf of the rest of us whether someone else is a 'proper' City fan or not?


I didn't appoint them? Did anyone else?

We've all got our reasons for supporting this club. Not everyone's is because they were born in Manchester, like me.

Anyone who was there in the dark times can look back upon that with great pride. As we get more successful, don't let that pride turn to bitterness because not everyone else has been along for the whole ride. Get over yourselves.


Cheers m8 the vast majority of the responses to this thread were top class, blues r the best fans in the world.
 
Damocles said:
mcfcliam said:
Damocles said:
It's embarrassing that we have 'fans' like the OP. You don't understand what City are, nor appreciate the history of this club. You're as big as an embarrassment to the club as the Green and Gold are to United. You run off ranting to yourself without a trace of irony whilst SPECTACULARLY missing the point of why City are special and what differentiates us from those over the road.

You can fuck off, you two faced prick.

PM'ing me a while back saying sorry for outbursts and now resorting to insults again.


Sometimes, I write a post on here, walk away and think "hmm...that was probably a bit over the top, I'll go and apologise". This doesn't mean that I'll never have a pop at you again for talking shit.

My point stands. This is about the 6th (just from memory) "I'm a bigger blue" thread that you've started. You miss the point of City, the entire ethos of the club for a hundred years.

I don't know why you continually miss the point and the dismiss the history of this Club. Honestly, I think it's because your Dad took you to matches a lot and you class this as "going to the match". When we were in Division Two, how old were you? About 8?
My point, is that whilst you were physically there, you could not possibly have had any understanding of what it meant to be a fan at that age. Nobody does when they're 8, football fandom may as well be Cowboys vs Indians at that age.

You've probably seen us properly from Pearce onwards, which is fine, but during that time for some reason, you haven't understood what City are because we've pretty much been a middling club around this time. Yes, we fought relegation once or twice but mainly we were challenging for UEFA Cup spots or a top half finish.

One of the reasons why United fans are such wankers, is that they segregate their fanbase and are so fucking anal about what constitutes a "propa fan". They have divisions. Pre 92, Pre 86, Post 99, post 08. They segregate their fans and 'rate' their level of support by when they started supporting. This is fucking ridiculous and arrogant. Who are THEY to determine what is ok and what is not in terms of football fandom? Who the fuck are THEY to woman at people for having a good time?

I hate this whole bullshit about what constitutes a "propa fan" and how prevalent it has become recently. You're like those guy who are pissed because their favourite band has become mainstream; hipster, I think is the word people use.

This club has always been about acceptance of anybody who wants to take up the mantle of City, no matter who they are, where they come from, and what they do with their lives. The founding fathers of this club set it up FOR THAT VERY REASON. We've always welcomed any new fans with open arms and we've never disparaged them because they didn't happen to find the wonderful world of City before that particular time. The rags are the ones who played the bigger fan bollocks, we accepted anybody because we knew that they shared the ride with us, for better or for worse.

Thinking more about it, I disagree with this whole logic of "gloryhunter". You guys understand that they don't tend to show Stoke vs Wigan much in the US? It's all games involving the top teams. How were they meant to pick us up without ever having the chance to watch us?
Invariably, people sit and watch a team and build an admiration for something. This is why Arsenal have so many foreign fans, because they played fantastic football which attracted people to watch them more and then learn about the club. This is why Wigan don't, they aren't attractive except possibly as an underdog.
This building admiration is exactly what been a fan is. I mean at the very core of the idea of fandom, is that you build an admiration for something that eventually becomes an obsession.

Some people didn't have the luxury to be born inside of the M60. Some didn't have the privilege to have a father or brother was was in to football. Does this mean that they are permanently stuck in the footballing ether? Why? Who says?

You show me fans who get up at 3am on a workday to get into a pub at 4am to watch a match, then go and work a 12 hour shift afterwards, and then show me a guy who lives 10 minutes from the ground and attends 20 games a season and I'll point out who is REALLY making sacrifices to follow the team that they want.

This whole thing is bullshit. I don't care where you are from. I don't care how long you have supported City. If you say you're a City fan, then you're alright by me. The moment we start to divide ourselves into subsections is the moment that our worryingly quickening slide into becoming United fans is finally complete.

Everybody has always been welcome at City, and I wouldn't change that for the world. Those who are in the "but I won't get a ticket!" brigade should probably ask why you deserve a ticket when you haven't got any loyalty points.

Have to agree with damocles,i just think the op is an angry kid & looks to have a beef with the world.....we all know he's the biggest blue in the world as he reminds us daily,he is also a bellend!
 
Everyone welcome by me too. In fact I love people turning up at the ground and taking photos etc. For some of those fans it's tourism ( nothing wrong with that whatsoever ) for others it's the start of a love affair. Some fans are given a City kit from birth others might not even have got into football until they are a lot older. Whatever, it's not where you start it's where you finish!
 
I don't agree with Damocles that we are fast marching towards ragdom though, particularly on this. We always had a go at gloryhunters because that's what rag success brought and virtually the only thing we had a go at them over; City having a more solid Mancunian fanbase. Now either this was a disingenuous defence mechanism (seems to be the case for a great many) or people genuinely believed it but one thing's for certain, it's not new. I've always felt the need to justify myself as a non-Mancunian blue. I think our fanbase remains as it was, good and bad.
 
There is a saying in life no matter how hard you are, there is always someone tougher.
Same with City- no matter how long you have been watching City, someone has been going longer. I say welcome to ALL new supporters.
 
Took a picture for a few Japanese tourists a few weeks ago and it's so refreshing to see how happy they are to be here watching us, Manchester City.

It just shows how far we have come that they are no longer seeing just one club in Manchester and are spending their hard earned money at ours. This would not have been the case only a few years ago.

In my book, all are welcome and welcome all. There's more Blues around the world than some may think.
 

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