gordondaviesmoustache
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Skashion said:
You don't have to justify yourself to me, Skash, baby ;-)
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New fans/tourists are embarrassing
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You don't have to justify yourself to me, Skash, baby ;-)
Prestwich_Blue
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Re: Re: New fans/tourists are embarrassing
Over-sized pedant!SWP's back said:No creating memories is what you do. Saving memories is taking the pictures. A memory isn't created in a photo.Bluebird1 said:If we don't get new fans how will we fill a bigger stadium when we eventually extend?
Oh and I take photos at games, it's called creating memories.
Pigeonho said:Thing is though, United are a prime example of what success and status brings, as are Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. If you want pure, local-bred fans to support a club you have to look in the lower leagues and also at smaller clubs. It's fair to say Crewe, Stockport, Chesterfield, Oldham etc won't have many tourists turning up on a matchday, nor will they have many non-local fans like perhaps a bigger club in a lower division may have. When we were in the 2nd and 3rd we had non-local fans, but they would have been true fans of the club, not these new ones Liam refers too. They are here because we are on the way to be a massively recognised club, or the word I hate - a brand. The more successful and recognised we get, the more tourists will flood to the club. Tourists = money and money = a self-sustaining club, which we will have to become in the end. Thing is with us, there will always be more local, die hard fans than there will tourists/new fans, so its the best of both worlds when you think of it because we have that fan base we have had for years and years, plus the increased revenue these new fans bring. I'm sure you can turn a blind-eye to some tourists having their photo took each game if it means they have just spent a few hundred quid in the shop and on the tickets in the first place.
It's not often I see eye to eye with you Pidge but these are my thoughts exactly
Good post M8
daveduke67
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I disagree with your statement.
However I respect your right to voice your opinion.
However I respect your right to voice your opinion.
pominoz
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Liam,just wondering if it is alright if i take my son to Etihad,in about 10 years from now,when he will be about 15?
You see,i was born and raised in Manchester but my son was born and will be raised in Australia. I need to know,so i can organise something for him to do,while i am at the match.
Cheers.
You see,i was born and raised in Manchester but my son was born and will be raised in Australia. I need to know,so i can organise something for him to do,while i am at the match.
Cheers.
gordondaviesmoustache
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daveduke67 said:I disagree with your statement.
However I respect your right to voice your opinion.
DD, I sense that's a euphemism for 'you're talking horseshit' ;-)<br /><br />-- Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:26 am --<br /><br />
pominoz said:Liam,just wondering if it is alright if i take my son to Etihad,in about 10 years from now,when he will be about 15?
You see,i was born and raised in Manchester but my son was born and will be raised in Australia. I need to know,so i can organise something for him to do,while i am at the match.
Cheers.
You forgot to ask him if it was ok if you went to the game.
You may have lost too much of your Mancunian accent for his liking. You better check before you book the flight, mate.
And whatever you do, don't bring your fucking camera.
pominoz
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gordondaviesmoustache said:daveduke67 said:I disagree with your statement.
However I respect your right to voice your opinion.
DD, I sense that's a euphemism for 'you're talking horseshit' ;-)
-- Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:26 am --
pominoz said:Liam,just wondering if it is alright if i take my son to Etihad,in about 10 years from now,when he will be about 15?
You see,i was born and raised in Manchester but my son was born and will be raised in Australia. I need to know,so i can organise something for him to do,while i am at the match.
Cheers.
You forgot to ask him if it was ok if you went to the game.
You may have lost too much of your Mancunian accent for his liking. You better check before you book the flight, mate.
And whatever you do, don't bring your fucking camera.
We have a few "Shameless" dvds,plus the Mrs reckons my accent goes all Manc when i am pissed. Sorted.
I took photos at my last game in 2007,damn.
Give it another 20 or so years and I will have been supporting City as long as my dad did.
You may remember the thread I started when he sadly passed away. He was a real Blue, as Blue as they come.
Saw good years and extremely fallow ones too, as mots City fans have and then BOOM the late 60's and early 70's happened and he was there too.
As Trigger (who was a very close friend of dads') will point out dad stopped going to the match some years ago, even though City were still central to who he was, how he felt about himself.
Back in '68 when he and iirc 5 others were belting down the old A1 back from Newcastle in an MGB one of them had just watched his first game.
That plastic fan only went to Newcastle because City were in with a shout of winning the title, he readily admitted to being a 'glory hunter' but he bought a season ticket the next season and has done every season since - Liam, do the maths he now has far more City following years home and many, many times away than you.
I personally don't go to the matches as often as I would like anymore either, circumstances mean that I have to watch from afar but I was there on the old Kippax for about 17 seasons (as a paying punter not a local jibber), I was there when we all went to Stoke on boxing day, I was there when we went to Notts County in the cup to see their keeper play out of his skin.
What I am trying to say Liam is that, right now you think you are THE type of fan than deserves more recognition or plaudits but to me and others like my dad and his mates, like Trigger for example, you could be considered a lightweight who is barely fit to talk about our great club because you havent suffered enough yet.
It all depends what each persons POV is and it a very personal thing.
But I know there will likely be a time when you are 41 or 51 or 61 when you no longer go as often as you do now and a snotty nosed lad in his late teens or early twenties looks down his nose at you as he hasnt seen you there before. Perhaps he may be the one who is sat in the seat you currently call yours?
And finally one last point, I am, and my dad was, always happy to take new people to the games with us. I know a lot of other people do that as well.
We love(d) nothing more than introducing others to the experience of being a Blue. Some keep it up, others drop it like a hot spud.
But I suppose we should never have done that really should we?
And right now, as we take a snapshot of the City fan base your opinion matters more because you go to every game.
But then perhaps the fact that I have likely watched City more often than you (including reserves, youth games etc) you should ask me for permission to talk about my club before you type a single fucking word?
But I welcome all newcomers, as you are to me, to City and encourage them to get as fully involved as possible.
So Liam, welcome to the City faithful - and, working to your rules of fandom I herby give you my permission to carry on being a Blue and supporting my club, my dad's club, my grandad's club.
Look after them will you, and make sure that when, in the future, you hand the supporting role over to someone else there is in fact someone else left to hand it over to.
You may remember the thread I started when he sadly passed away. He was a real Blue, as Blue as they come.
Saw good years and extremely fallow ones too, as mots City fans have and then BOOM the late 60's and early 70's happened and he was there too.
As Trigger (who was a very close friend of dads') will point out dad stopped going to the match some years ago, even though City were still central to who he was, how he felt about himself.
Back in '68 when he and iirc 5 others were belting down the old A1 back from Newcastle in an MGB one of them had just watched his first game.
That plastic fan only went to Newcastle because City were in with a shout of winning the title, he readily admitted to being a 'glory hunter' but he bought a season ticket the next season and has done every season since - Liam, do the maths he now has far more City following years home and many, many times away than you.
I personally don't go to the matches as often as I would like anymore either, circumstances mean that I have to watch from afar but I was there on the old Kippax for about 17 seasons (as a paying punter not a local jibber), I was there when we all went to Stoke on boxing day, I was there when we went to Notts County in the cup to see their keeper play out of his skin.
What I am trying to say Liam is that, right now you think you are THE type of fan than deserves more recognition or plaudits but to me and others like my dad and his mates, like Trigger for example, you could be considered a lightweight who is barely fit to talk about our great club because you havent suffered enough yet.
It all depends what each persons POV is and it a very personal thing.
But I know there will likely be a time when you are 41 or 51 or 61 when you no longer go as often as you do now and a snotty nosed lad in his late teens or early twenties looks down his nose at you as he hasnt seen you there before. Perhaps he may be the one who is sat in the seat you currently call yours?
And finally one last point, I am, and my dad was, always happy to take new people to the games with us. I know a lot of other people do that as well.
We love(d) nothing more than introducing others to the experience of being a Blue. Some keep it up, others drop it like a hot spud.
But I suppose we should never have done that really should we?
And right now, as we take a snapshot of the City fan base your opinion matters more because you go to every game.
But then perhaps the fact that I have likely watched City more often than you (including reserves, youth games etc) you should ask me for permission to talk about my club before you type a single fucking word?
But I welcome all newcomers, as you are to me, to City and encourage them to get as fully involved as possible.
So Liam, welcome to the City faithful - and, working to your rules of fandom I herby give you my permission to carry on being a Blue and supporting my club, my dad's club, my grandad's club.
Look after them will you, and make sure that when, in the future, you hand the supporting role over to someone else there is in fact someone else left to hand it over to.
pominoz
Well-Known Member
Wow! What a great post fbloke :)
I sit in the 3rd tier of the Colin Bell stand and i would say 2/3rds of the season ticket holders were not there on Tuesday and i was surrounded by strangers, did any of them annoy me? no, did they show as much enthusiasm as me when we scored ? yes, they may have been as you say daytrippers but i would much prefer to be surrounded by people wanting us to win instead of empty seats when as happens quite frequently season ticket holders don't attend cup games.