Newcastle (A) | Wed 27th Sept | EFL Cup | Post Match Thread

[ysmsa]

Spoiled brats all over the shop at the moment.

Last night a real eye-opener to how some of our "new fans" will react when the trophies dry up in a few years, and how some of our "legacy fans" have become everything we used to make fun of United for.

I already wish them well (no, I don't).

I'm in my 50's and been going 40 years.

Nothing to do with being spoilt but how can a Team mount a LC run when it is scheduled at the same time as the Club World Cup.

No point winning last night or the next round if you have to throw in the towel at the quarter final because you have to attend a tournament in Saudi!

And a 2 legged Semi at the busiest time of the season is fuckng nuts.

Come back when International breaks and winter breaks are fucked off and a Team plays weekly with mid week games in between every few weeks, until then we can't fit it in without burning out come January and then winning fuck all.

Glad we are out.

 

[mancityvstoke]

For those of us on the EFL Cup scheme that’s 200 ticket points without us having had to spend a penny.
Every cloud….

(100 points in my case) yeah exactly what I thought after we lost......then had a brew

 

[Tolmie scores]

The "Joke Thread" is in the Off Topic department fella.

Kane is just a better footbalker..justcsaying.. Haaland's a beast all heart and effort, buylt he is no way a pure footbaler in comparison with a technician like a kane or Van Basten, anyone who has played the game can see that surely! Love Haaland but there are limitations to his ability..just saying

 

[Tolmie scores]

Che cazzo stai dicendo?

Hcx hr h jhff

 

[Tangled up in blue.]

Kane is just a better footbalker..justcsaying.. Haaland's a beast all heart and effort, buylt he is no way a pure footbaler in comparison with a technician like a kane or Van Basten, anyone who has played the game can see that surely! Love Haaland but there are limitations to his ability..just saying

They're both brilliant in their own different ways

 

[blueparrot]

Kane is just a better footbalker..justcsaying.. Haaland's a beast all heart and effort, buylt he is no way a pure footbaler in comparison with a technician like a kane or Van Basten, anyone who has played the game can see that surely! Love Haaland but there are limitations to his ability..just saying

Haaland is a better footballer than Kane was at 23.He's learning all the time as his partnership with Alvarez proves.

 

[JewelZee]

Kane is just a better footbalker..justcsaying.. Haaland's a beast all heart and effort, buylt he is no way a pure footbaler in comparison with a technician like a kane or Van Basten, anyone who has played the game can see that surely! Love Haaland but there are limitations to his ability..just saying

"All heart and effort"? Are you suggesting you played the game? Haaland is a "technician" of the highest order as a pure center forward. Suggesting otherwise is a clear indication you don't get it. He's not a 10 or an 8 nor is he pretending to be. You greatly underestimate his immense talent level but anyone should be able to tell you that...SMH

 

[youngbob]

I'm in my 50's and been going 40 years.

Nothing to do with being spoilt but how can a Team mount a LC run when it is scheduled at the same time as the Club World Cup.

No point winning last night or the next round if you have to throw in the towel at the quarter final because you have to attend a tournament in Saudi!

And a 2 legged Semi at the busiest time of the season is fuckng nuts.

Come back when International breaks and winter breaks are fucked off and a Team plays weekly with mid week games in between every few weeks, until then we can't fit it in without burning out come January and then winning fuck all.

Glad we are out.

Think you've misunderstood me. I was having a go at people who are having a paddy and calling for players' heads cos we went out last night when it's obvious there was no real point in going through only to add another Manchester derby to the fixtures pile-up and end up having to field a bunch of kids and the dinner ladies in the quarter-final.

 

[youngbob]

Been digging through the history books.

The Club World Cup was introduced in the year 2000. Since then, the following English teams have won the European Cup/Champions League and competed in it.

Manchester United, 1999.
Liverpool, 2005.
Manchester United, 2008.
Chelsea, 2012.
Liverpool, 2019.
Chelsea, 2021.
Manchester City, 2023.

The following season, each club's respective record in the League Cup is as follows:

Manchester United (3rd round, did not enter the FA Cup)
Liverpool (3rd round)
Manchester United (Winners, quarter-finals played two weeks before start of Club World Cup)
Chelsea (Semi-finals, Club World Cup finished one week before quarter-finals)
Liverpool (Quarter-finals, lost 5-0 while playing youngest ever line-up)
Chelsea (Runners-up, Club World Cup played in February)
Manchester City (3rd round).

So last night we basically just continued a long-held tradition of English clubs prioritising the Club World Cup over the League Cup if their fixtures in the two tournaments happen to clash. The only occasions that the current European Cup holders have progressed to the latter stages of the League Cup have been when the Club World Cup either takes place before or long after the League Cup quarter-final.

 

[Grassland Blue]

simple truth is you can't win them all and having won this a few times I suspect it has slipped down the order for Pep and the club. We can't be rags and dippers and feel entitled it's happened and we just move on

Just leave the competition for the lesser clubs to fight over.....

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The Carabao is always nice to win, but if you don’t, it’s a quickly forgettable competition.

Roll on Wolves.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Kane is just a better footbalker..justcsaying.. Haaland's a beast all heart and effort, buylt he is no way a pure footbaler in comparison with a technician like a kane or Van Basten, anyone who has played the game can see that surely! Love Haaland but there are limitations to his ability..just saying

Horses for courses , Haaland occupies two central defenders for 90 minutes and creates space for others , Kane drops back to the half way line when he is starved of the ball , i would rather have my centre forward bullying opposing defences than loitering around on the half way line.
Totally different types of players and i have played the game at a decent level , Kinkladze was a great "footballer" and where did it get him , Jordan Henderson is a donkey and he has medals and caps coming out of his backside.
If you are going to judge footballers , then make it like for like , i compare Haaland to Ibrahomivic and Kane to Benzema but comparing Kane and Haaland is futile.

 

[robbieh]

If we win the WC championship to add to the already bagged Super Copa, I'd say this was a sacrifice well worth making.

 

[WillDaws]

Weve dominated the league cup for the best part of a decade… its time for our champions league domination phase now instead. Levels.

 

[s1ty m]

Horses for courses , Haaland occupies two central defenders for 90 minutes and creates space for others , Kane drops back to the half way line when he is starved of the ball , i would rather have my centre forward bullying opposing defences than loitering around on the half way line.
Totally different types of players and i have played the game at a decent level , Kinkladze was a great "footballer" and where did it get him , Jordan Henderson is a donkey and he has medals and caps coming out of his backside.
If you are going to judge footballers , then make it like for like , i compare Haaland to Ibrahomivic and Kane to Benzema but comparing Kane and Haaland is futile.

Good post. Good comparisons.

 

[Fordyboy46]

So was it Don Goodman or Don Hutchinson the sky co commentator?

 

[Sky Blue]

So was it Don Goodman or Don Hutchinson the sky co commentator?

Goodman.

 

[St.Pauli support]

Nonsense. We crashed out. CRASHED OUT OF THE CUP.

Yep, shite media.
We went out, not more.

And these "quadruple hopes"! Who is that City fan having quadruple hopes? Not me.

Winning the PL alone for the 4th time in a row would be superb and historic. The CWC could be doable.
More cups are happening now and then, but we all know they always have been unpredictable.

 

[bennyboy]

Spoiled brats all over the shop at the moment.

Last night a real eye-opener to how some of our "new fans" will react when the trophies dry up in a few years, and how some of our "legacy fans" have become everything we used to make fun of United for.

I already wish them well (no, I don't).

Nonsense.
The team got applauded off at the end.
No boos near me.

 

[blue ranger]

Not sure why Jack is getting so much grief on here...

As WhoScored shows, Grealish was one of Manchester City’s better performers on what was a disappointing night for the Citizens overall.

The 28-year-old completed 100% of his passes with 45 successful efforts, the only player on the pitch who played the entire 90 minutes to achieve that feat.

Grealish also registered three key passes – no player on the pitch recorded more – while winning three freekicks for the Citizens.

I don’t care what the stats say. He was pretty poor but just back from injury and it’s perfectly normal to look rusty for a few games back. Aguero used to take 3 or 4 games and KDB always takes a couple.