Next Manager after Pep

[supercity88]

Sadly I thought he looked totally out of his depth which did surprise me, hardly the idea time to take over but he still looked overawed by the whole situation.

It was a tough gig at Chelsea, but I think De Zerbi's achievements with Brighton show that Potter was doing a very good job, but that it could have been even better. De Zerbi's got the makings of a Pep replacement, but it's all about timing. We will undoubtedly have a list of potential replacements, but it will depend on when Pep calls it a day. Every season a new objective rises which makes him want to stay. The players love him, they're listening to him and evolving and he'll want to hand the team over in good shape to ensure consistency. He could have gone after the treble, but why wouldn't he want to be the first to win 4 titles in a row? There will always be little goals that keep driving him forwards, and I'm sure he'd like to oversee some European dominance from City.

 

[DenisHasDoneIt]

Thought Luis Enrique’s Spain at the WC were great. Dull to watch in tournament football, but would hoover up 3 points a game in a league. And Rodri at Centre Back too! Not arsed how he does at Planet Ego at the moment: still my man for when Pep walks off into the sunset.

 

[TonyM]

My preference would be an acrobatic manager who will somersault when we score. Also a really impressive sadface when we loose.

Pep is very good but besides football management what does he really bring to the party.

He'll do fine in the meantime but I'd like his successor to be just that much better talent wise.

 

[supercity88]

Thought Luis Enrique’s Spain at the WC were great. Dull to watch in tournament football, but would hoover up 3 points a game in a league. And Rodri at Centre Back too! Not arsed how he does at Planet Ego at the moment: still my man for when Pep walks off into the sunset.

A logical one considering he replaced Pep before. Xabi Alonso is one that I'm sure the club would consider, but I wonder whether he'd take it considering his Liverpool connections. He's someone who obviously played under Pep and is doing a brilliant job with Leverkusen, very much in Pep's mould.

 

[Keeper!]

It was a tough gig at Chelsea, but I think De Zerbi's achievements with Brighton show that Potter was doing a very good job, but that it could have been even better. De Zerbi's got the makings of a Pep replacement, but it's all about timing. We will undoubtedly have a list of potential replacements, but it will depend on when Pep calls it a day. Every season a new objective rises which makes him want to stay. The players love him, they're listening to him and evolving and he'll want to hand the team over in good shape to ensure consistency. He could have gone after the treble, but why wouldn't he want to be the first to win 4 titles in a row? There will always be little goals that keep driving him forwards, and I'm sure he'd like to oversee some European dominance from City.

It was interesting a couple of days ago hearing Pep talking about Txiki.

Words to the effect of " I hope he continues at the club for many, many more years, he is doing such a wonderful job"

Not the words of someone looking to move on in a season.

 

[Ric]

This is nice to hear, and offers encouragement that he might sign a new contract:

 

[skillman]

This is nice to hear, and offers encouragement that he might sign a new contract:

A perfectionist like him doesn’t stop at 9 years. At least has to round it up to 10! ;)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

One thing that this euphoric ride under the GOAT can tell us, he’ll be part of the transition plan, that isn’t even up for debate…

I bet the rags said similar on Sadcafe when the Hardshoulder shitter hung his tactics board up.

We’ll also need a director of football. Rumours of VK maybe being that.

 

[domalino]

A perfectionist like him doesn’t stop at 9 years. At least has to round it up to 10! ;)

When he first joined I said I hoped he'd do 8 years - that's how long Cruyff was at Barcelona and built them into the superclub they are today.

We've got that already, so anything extra is a bonus for me.

 

[domalino]

I bet the rags said similar on Sadcafe when the Hardshoulder shitter hung his tactics board up.

We’ll also need a director of football. Rumours of VK maybe being that.

I don't think Ferguson's retirement is at all comparable.

For starters, United's internal structure had basically not evolved since the late 80's because Ferguson was there, dominating and controlling everything. We had a modern structure of spreading responsibility across a large upper management before Pep and not much has changed in the last 8 years in regard to the "best" way to run a big club.

Secondly, Ferguson's retirement was very sudden. His wife's twin sister died in October 2012, and he told United he was retiring at the end of the season a few weeks later. They had about 4 months to find a replacement and that's why Pep, Mouirnho, Klopp, van Gaal & Ancelotti turned them down - most had already lined up their next jobs.

Pep will give Txiki & Khaldoon plenty of time.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I don't think Ferguson's retirement is at all comparable.

For starters, United's internal sdtructure had basically not evolved since the late 80's because Ferguson was there, we had a modern structure before Pep and not much has changed in the last 8 years in that regard.

Secondly, Ferguson's retirement was very sudden. His wife's twin sister died in October 2012, and he told United he was retiring at the end of the season a few weeks later. They had about 4 months to find a replacement and that's why Pep, Mouirnho, Klopp, van Gaal & Ancelotti turned them down - most had already lined up their next jobs.

It may or may not be. Who we replace Txiki and Pep with will define if our succession plan is better or worse than theirs.

Pep has signed extensions in October/November in the final years of his contract. That gives us exactly the same amount of time to react.

We may or may not have his successor planned. It will be made harder by Txiki going too.

Hopefully it’s not for another few years yet, but we won’t know until next Autumn.

 

[dannyboy29]

Needs to beat La Decima or will go down as a failure

 

[AccyBlue2]

May not be popular based on this weekends results but Arteta seems a good replacement

I am saying he should be No.1 choice but he may be a contender

 

[Holcombe bloo]

It may or may not be. Who we replace Txiki and Pep with will define if our succession plan is better or worse than theirs.

Pep has signed extensions in October/November in the final years of his contract. That gives us exactly the same amount of time to react.

We may or may not have his successor planned. It will be made harder by Txiki going too.

Hopefully it’s not for another few years yet, but we won’t know until next Autumn.

Would be really useful to take txiki do a extra year or two after pep goes. The two leaving is a big change all at once.

id like to see Fernandinho at the club as a number 2 or 3 assistant to pep and working his way up. Perhaps he could work up to being main assistant of the next manager. That way there would be even more continuity.

 

[domalino]

Pep has signed extensions in October/November in the final years of his contract. That gives us exactly the same amount of time to react.

The deals get announced in October, but Pep obviously doesn't sign the deal the day they agree it, let alone the day he decides to stay and they're going into these talks knowing he might leave, so the groundwork will be laid for potential replacements.

You really can't compare it to the manager of 26 years with years left to go and no plans to retire turning up in your office in Late November/December and telling you he's gone in May.

 

[domalino]

Would be really useful to take txiki do a extra year or two after pep goes. The two leaving is a big change all at once.

id like to see Fernandinho at the club as a number 2 or 3 assistant to pep and working his way up. Perhaps he could work up to being main assistant of the next manager. That way there would be even more continuity.

The only problem with that is you then have to hire a DOF based on him getting on with the new manager, when really the DOF should be the long term position and picking the manager.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Would be really useful to take txiki do a extra year or two after pep goes. The two leaving is a big change all at once.

id like to see Fernandinho at the club as a number 2 or 3 assistant to pep and working his way up. Perhaps he could work up to being main assistant of the next manager. That way there would be even more continuity.

Yeah, maybe. Players becoming managers is often more for sentimental reasons, rather than sound logical ones.

Fernandinho might become a superb manager, but he’s still playing, isn’t he?

I’d be all for reintegrating him into our coaching system, but I’d probably want someone more experienced to take over.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The deals get announced in October, but Pep obviously doesn't sign the deal the day they agree it, let alone the day he decides to stay and they're going into these talks knowing he might leave, so the groundwork will be laid for potential replacements.

You really can't compare it to the manager of 26 years with years left to go and no plans to retire turning up in your office in Late November/December and telling you he's gone in May.

You don’t know that. You’ve assumed that. We could very well be scrambling when he finally calls it a day.

If they hadn’t thought a septuagenarian might retire, then they deserved the mess they were in. You could also see what our title did to him. He bought old players to win their 20th title and called it a day.

They could have had any manager in the world. They had the money and were successful at the time. The back room team was also still in place. We have to be grateful to Moyes for sacking them all and making United into Everton.

 

[domalino]

You don’t know that. You’ve assumed that. We could very well be scrambling when he finally calls it a day.

If they hadn’t thought a septuagenarian might retire, then they deserved the mess they were in. You could also see what our title did to him. He bought old players to win their 20th title and called it a day.

They could have had any manager in the world. They had the money and were successful at the time. The back room team was also still in place. We have to be grateful to Moyes for sacking them all and making United into Everton.

In the past 10+ years what have our upper management done to make you think they're going to be caught scrambling and unprepared when Pep calls it a day?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

In the past 10+ years what have our upper management done to make you think they're going to be caught scrambling and unprepared when Pep calls it a day?

There aren’t many things that we could accuse our board of doing badly over the years.

How we change managers could well be at the top of the list though.

Hughes-Mancini. Hughes winning a match and waving goodbye as Mancini was already in the boardroom.

Mancini-Pellegrini. The Wigan final farce and you can stick your Pellegrini up your arse.

Pellegrini-Pep. Pellegrini’s rushed statement in January announcing he wasn’t taking the option on his extra year as manager as Pep had decided to come.

Who knows what this next change will look like.