Niall Quinn

weejh said:
fathellensbellend said:
gone way down in my estimation, he has been slating the sunderland fans who have been watching matches in the pubs of sunderland on illegal satellite channels as opposed to going to the stadium of light.

it's very easy for a multi millionaire ex player to take the moral high ground, but he has not been priced out of following the club he supports while on shit wages.

taking it further it won't be long before you see the death of the away fan in this country, mounting petrol prices and the cost of tickets will certainly be curtailing my ongoing away support, put quite simply i cannot afford it for much longer.

What a stupid statement, he is the chairman of the club, what do you expect him to say? He has put his own money in presumebly, why wouldn't you question why your fans aren't turning up, especially when newcastle are filling their grounds. To say he has hone down in your estimation for moaning about it is a joke. What the hell do fans want? They are getting premiership football with very good players in the team and still can't be arsed turning up. Quinn has a point

fans want a team they can be proud of, can relate to, and ultimately one they can afford to watch home and away.

football has been taken away from a large % of working class fans, the chance to watch their teams in the flesh has gone due to stupid ticket prices, so they choose the next best option, a few pints and to see the match in the pub.

if you go away, you will notice many of our away tickets have crept around the 50 pound mark, do you honestly think they are prices that families can afford?

the sheer greed of footballers and agents is killing the game, not ordinary folk on 250/300 quid a week who still want to watch the team they have followed all their lives.
 
We should start a Niall Quinn for Chairman campaign, the man is exactly what our club needs. Here is a man that raised over £1 million from his testimonial year and gave it all away to charity, a man that cared enough about the club that he played for that he went out and sourced investment to take them into the Premier League and spend millions on players, and i'll never forget how upset he was when we were relegated against Liverpool.

If the current crop of players. with their superior talent cared half as much we'd be champions.

He would be the perfect link between the absent sheiks and the club......give me Quinn over Gary 'I cried over a meaningless last minute equaliser, Richard Dunne doesn't sell shirts in the far east, please welcome Uwe into the manchester United hall of fame' Cook!
 
Fat Helens, u ask wether families can afford away games at 50 quid a ticket, of course not, but that isn't the issue here is it? Do the Sunderland fans who ate staying from the ground take the whole family to the pub, no therefor you can't compare the two. I haven't checked how much Sunderland season tickets are, but they will probably be around the same price as city's and newcastles? I just think Quinn has a right to moan about the pubs showing the footy, but the only way to get the fans coming is with some incentives, usually cheaper tickets, but maybe guarantee them semi final tickets if they commit to coming to 4 home games that season or something?!!
My original point that it was a joke to say he had gone down in your estimation hasn't changed, that was way over the top
 
Quinny used to come in our shop in Altrincham when i was a kid, used to see him when i was behind the counter and thought he was huge and wanted to be as tall as him. Unfortnately I overtook him by 6 inches :(

Real gent, supported the local businesses back then so no surprise that we wanted the community spirit involved at Sunderland.

Top bloke, very under-rated IMO, great feet for a big man (something i think people dont understand its harder for us giants to have) and the best memory on the pitch was the back heel pass in the box to set up Kinkladze. If that had been done by a Henry, a Rooney or a Messi everyone would say it was world class.
 
For me Quinn was always a bit of an unsung hero. Because he was tall and a bit ungainly he was very rarely given the plaudits his skill deserved, much in the same way Crouch is patronised with the ''he's not got a bad touch for a big guy'' tag.

Quinn perfected those little flicked headers and neat lay offs. Unfortunately he probably played the best football of his career after he left us, his partnership with Kevin Phillips at Sunderland produced a hell of a lot of goals.
 
From 1994.

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I recently joined the Leamington Spa branch of the Independent Supporters' Club, which was only formed a few months ago and is now something like 50 strong. Our catchement area seems to stretch from Birmingham to Leicester with the majority coming from Coventry or Leamington itself.

Normally we meet in a pub on the Radford Road but on Tuesday 13th December we were in the St. Patricks Club in Leamington for a special occasion. Our guest of honour, suitably for the venue, was City's own Eire international and giant of a frontman, Niall Quinn. This meeting had been re-arranged twice due to worries about Niall travelling when he has an injury but it was third time lucky as the man himself turned up and only a few minutes late. He stayed for two and a half hours before being presented with an engraved gift and driving back to Manchester.

The format of the evening was simple with two question and answer sessions separated by a break for some buffet food and the requisite photos and autograph requests. With most soccer players, you might expect a stand-offish attitude, even arrogance at times but Niall Quinn is a totally different kettle of fish. I'm not exaggerating when I say he was intelligent, articulate, honest and witty. He also has some strong views on the game and is prepared to air them in a logical and calm manner.

Niall started by apologising for Paul Lake being unable to come down with him. We had invited Paul along with Niall and he was pleasantly surprised to receive the request - the first of this kind he has had - but Paul is training almost seven days a week with the Brightwells' father. He is still unsure of whether he will make the comeback or not because his cruciate ligaments have taken so many knocks, he now has to really build up strength in his legs until he has muscles that would grace Arnold Schwarzeneggar. Should it go again, that's that. Paul has had to learn how to walk again three times and that would break many a lesser person; the belief of his friends and the fans has helped him enormously.

On his own cruciate injury, Niall had found it was very much left up to himself to get fit after the operation, which had been done without notifying the club. Fellow sufferer Alan Shearer and some American experts had recommended a surgeon in Cambridge so Niall went there for an examination one night at 5PM and the surgeon said "Right, we'll operate at 8AM tomorrow". Niall wasn't too popular for a while but now they admit it was probably the best thing he could have done. On the same subject, he went on to bemoan the general standard of phsyio facilities and personnel at all clubs in England, saying the mentality seemed to have got stuck in the '70s and compared to the American football clubs, we were still in the dark ages. However he did think City were one of the best of a bad bunch. [Niall revealed that he is carrying a small hamstring injury at the moment. I missed the opportunity to ask why everyone at City gets the same injury.]

The discussion moved into a general chat about the current City team, Horton's tactics and Niall's thoughts on the matter. We all agreed that there had been a huge improvement in the year or so that Horton has been in charge. Some astute buys coupled with the new regime had made Maine Road a fun place to be once more. Niall espoused the view that we can succeed with our new attacking style at home against weaker opposition but not with quality teams like Arsenal and, to be honest, United. Once they have closed down our wingers, we need a top class midfield player, maybe a 'bruiser' (someone suggested David Batty), to get in there, win the ball and make some space. Basically, City need more attacking options than the wingers or the hoof upfield.

A fair few people were criticising Brian Horton's tactics, especially on the two recent Sky defeats and Niall was very diplomatic in defending BH whilst giving his own tactical view. He gave us a nice insight into the dressing room after the 5-0 disaster, saying that there was a very intense atmosphere amongst the players and it took a couple of days for everything to settle down and people to be able to approach things rationally. It seems Horton is now more enamoured with Niall's point of view but doesn't yet want to fiddle with a winning formula, so soon after introducing it.

Therein lies the crux; my opinion is that BH is learning Premiership management bit by bit and he will get it right in time. At the same time City are re-learning how to play good football and that makes for a hugely promising partnership. If, say, by the end of next season he is still making basic tactical errors then we might want to part company. Us fans need to be a bit more patient and realise that Rome wasn't built in a day. Any talk of replacing BH is plain silly; the last thing anyone wants is a return to the bad old days of instability. Fair and constructive criticism is one thing but constant sniping really annoys the players and the manager.

On individual players, past and present, Niall was quite forthcoming and showed insight into both their personalities and abilities. Without attempting to quote him, the way I read his comments were: Garry Fltcroft needs to lose his stage fright on the big occasions, Steve Lomas needs to physically fill out a bit as he is still a young lad and Nicky Summerbee should never be played in the middle. The defence could be better. Keith Curle is top class but shouldn't be rushed back from injury. We're unlikely to see Vonk much except to fill up the squad numbers and Phelan's rift with BH is simmering but mendable.

I asked Niall whether he felt "narked" at the more than favourable reception Uwe Rösler has been getting recently and he replied that, far from it, the one who is the fans' favourite often gets it in the back in the dressing room; normally from the players who aren't so popular! Niall said he prefers Paul Walsh to be playing alongside him with Uwe taking the link rôle to midfield although it does no harm for the two to swap around if the defence gets on top. He missed the speed of David White although he and Adrian Heath often had to tell Whitey to slow down and delay his crosses! Rocastle's departure had been a great shock and it was literally a snap decision by Rocky once he heard Chelsea were interested. One possible reason suggested was his being played out on the right by Horton against his wishes.

As for United players, Niall admits to being big friends with Dennis Irwin but doesn't have much time for some of the others, especially a certain big-mouthed individual. :) Irwin, of course, is often in the Eire squad with him and Niall was full of admiration for Jack Charlton and the spirit he engenders. He told of the one time Big Jack decided the squad should start watching videos of games, something normally avoided. Fifteen minutes in, he said to Dennis Irwin "What do you think of this then?". No reply. Irwin was fast asleep and Charlton sent the lot of them packing... to the bar!

Niall specifically stated that he had no plans to get into managership, at least not while the current FA coaching system is in place. He doesn't want to have to teach kids things he doesn't believe. As an example he quoted one session Steve McMahon had been to before he got his badge and left for Swindon. The coaches ran a video of a Holland goal involving 17 passes, stopped it and put a big 'X' on the screen saying "Not the way to do it. No more than two passes in your own half." etc. Unbelievable stuff and quite rightly, Niall wants nothing to do with that, citing Charlie Hughes as the scourge of the modern game, with his status as guru of the long-ball game. On the good side, he reckons this year's Premiership is shaping up to the best for a while. Unless United win it, of course. :)

Niall and his wife would rather retire, when the time comes, to an Irish farm to look after ex-racing horses. I think that is a real shame (for football) as he looks a good assessor of character and definitely has a football brain; unfortunately I can only agree with his views on the modern game. As for staying at the club, he wants to finish his career at Maine Road and would only go if the manager makes it clear he has to.

Other various stuff:

Doesn't really want a media career despite enjoying the World Cup with Irish TV.

Away fans being brilliant. Most players are really missing the Kippax but wishing some of the Main Stand would stop their mutterings.
Swales visited the dressing room about once in 20 years whereas Lee is in there every match. Lee and Horton working together well. New regime a godsend compared to the old one.

Game at Newcastle in CCC is of huge importance and he wants Horton to really hype the players up for it.

Liked training with the kids at Arsenal, not for brownie points but because it was the only chance he got to try out his tricks!

A few handshakes, poses with the Irish Club staff, another mineral water and he was on his way back up the M6. There was much more of interest which I have forgotten but I didn't want to act journalistically and take notes so I hope I've done justice to what he said. Three cheers for Niall Quinn for taking the trouble to come and see us. It was fantastic to see a player who remains open and honest and hasn't let all the fame and fortune go to his head (that part of his anatomy's for scoring goals) - a true rôle model.
 
weejh said:
Fat Helens, u ask wether families can afford away games at 50 quid a ticket, of course not, but that isn't the issue here is it? Do the Sunderland fans who ate staying from the ground take the whole family to the pub, no therefor you can't compare the two. I haven't checked how much Sunderland season tickets are, but they will probably be around the same price as city's and newcastles? I just think Quinn has a right to moan about the pubs showing the footy, but the only way to get the fans coming is with some incentives, usually cheaper tickets, but maybe guarantee them semi final tickets if they commit to coming to 4 home games that season or something?!!
My original point that it was a joke to say he had gone down in your estimation hasn't changed, that was way over the top

a joke in your eyes maybe, but not mine, niall was a great sevant to city, his noble gesture with his testimonial is to be applauded, but football is a rip off
and if people can watch it for less legally in the pub then that is their right.

sunderland existed before niall quinn, and for people who cannot afford to go doesnt mean you stop supporting them.

also sunderland have taken the money from sky, so are quite happy to take the money from tv, a case of having your cake and eating it.

i will say it again, it's not fans on 250 quid a week killing the game, it's greed footballers and agents.

the game belongs to everyone, not just those fortunate enough to play, or rich enough to watch, and that should include all matches home and away, not just the shit category c games where clubs offer cheap tickets because they know they cannot fill the ground otherwise.
 
Great player and a great man. I remember the Derby game well - I don't think you'll ever see that happen again. Sad day when he left - he continued to show his class at Sunderland once he left.
 
SJC said:
Macc said:
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Great vid, i loved that season and big Quinny. Top bloke....


Brilliant watching this again SJC - Cheers!

Still one of my favourite memories this game! I remember leaping off my seat when Super Niall saved the pen, it was some save you know!!

Top Man !
 

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