Nick Griffin on Question Time..

TheMightyQuinn said:
Immaculate Pasta said:
His definition of Englishness is simple TMQ. He was born and lived here, his parents were born and lived here and so were his grandparents, he is English, simple.

And I'm saying then if that is the case there's a lot of English people out there who are of all colours and faiths and to not judge to harshly. I was also pointing out that the BNP do not believe this, they believe one must be white to be English, or certainly to survive their cull.

Which is why they should never ever be allowed into power. The BNP are like every single extremist group out there, they have some good ideas and common sense but they way they go about is all wrong.

BNP want an all white Britain, Muslim extremists want sharia law, the sad thing is they are against each other but are excatly the same as one another.

Both have so outdated views and are so out of touch with reality it's barmy, but the will both continue to get more and more popular because the three main political party have mroe interest in who's paying for their 3rd house than listening to the real problems the common man has in this country.

Which will lead to one thing in the coming years, more race riots and cival war.
 
roaminblue said:
RODDY_CTID said:
No you are fail to reliese that it was a witch hunt, there was no time for him to make a real fool of himself, the public have played right into his hand. They made him look like a victim

...and therein lies perception.

I didn't see him as a victim, i saw him as a fool who had the opportunity to stand up for his true beliefs but failed to do so to make his invidious collective of morons more paletable to the public. A dilute form of facism that mixes ever so well with a culture of fear. He came across as a coward, afraid to really express himself under the scrutiny of debate. That glamourous 2:2 degree really did him no favours did it?

No, i didnt see him as a victim because he is a vile, irredeamble creature. I cannot feel remorse for him, because he stands for everything that is wrong with society. He furthers his own agenda of hatred by preying on the, often legitimate, fears of the population. Baroness Warsi hi-lighted a problem with immigration, and even gave potential policies that her party would introduce and she does that without using a gaggle of thugs (is that the correct collective noun? perhaps its: a moron of thugs). she is also a muslim, and god forbid...a woman.

But Griffin and his cronies, lie in the shadows, and spread their tentacles to undermine elements of society, while polishing their jackboots and waiting for the opportunity to spring from the darkness and turn this country into a police state. A true Orwellien nightmare and from a facist! how dare he!

Its about time that the establishment stood up to this thug. For too long we waited, we remained wearily omniscient, continued on our own path hoping that Griffin and his annoyances stayed a convinient but harmless enemy. That they remained in the depths, than crawl out from under their rocks and spoil conversation. I for one am glad he was made to look a cowardly, fool.

No, i could never see him as a victim....its about perception....why do you?

Yeah, what he said.
 
roaminblue said:
Its about time that the establishment stood up to this thug.
Well, its the least they could do, seeing as they are the ones who created the conditions which allowed the BNP to step out of the wilderness and into mainstream politics.
 
Reading through this thread gives a good indication of how many City fans come from Lancashire as well as Manchester!
 
alabaster said:
Goater's Shin said:
Apparently the immigrants make up 15% of the population.
The audience was about 40-50%.
Good to see my tv licence money going on unbiased reporting/views again.

Yes, but those figures are not representative of London, where the programme was filmed. There is a much higher percentage of black and Asian people living in London, so it was a fairly accurate cross-section of London society.

Oh nooooo, that's shown up as my quote when that was someone elses response to me.

That, nick griffin, is what misquoting is. Not when you've said something and then are tryig to pretend you didn't to hoodwink simple folk.
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
Immaculate Pasta said:
His definition of Englishness is simple TMQ. He was born and lived here, his parents were born and lived here and so were his grandparents, he is English, simple.

And I'm saying then if that is the case there's a lot of English people out there who are of all colours and faiths and to not judge to harshly.

One thing I do not do TMQ.
As I previously said, I work with a black English guy.
I've always felt strong ties to my country because of my (recent (better???)) heritage.
 
Bilboblue said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
And I'm saying then if that is the case there's a lot of English people out there who are of all colours and faiths and to not judge to harshly.

One thing I do not do TMQ.
As I previously said, I work with a black English guy.
I've always felt strong ties to my country because of my (recent (better???)) heritage.

Then surely you agree the BNP are making the English look like small minded racists and that these people are the real enemy of modern England?
 

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