Nightmare with Mancini

[Bigga]

What we do know for certain is that Mancini and his "Itallian clique" were despised by an awful lot of people within the club and that article alludes to that fact

Worse than the highly incompetent and embarrassing Welsh Tafia, of whom the media couldn't love enough??



Joker...

Mancini, Hughes, The article's author or me?

The original author, I guess, cos you weren't displaying an actual opinion on the situation except for 'reading between the lines'.

Unless you're of the same volition...??

 

[Didsbury Dave]

That's the best article I've read yet on Mancini's depature, although it only scratches the surface on perhaps the biggest issues of all: his relationship with the players and tactical errors. But he is, of course, an enormous ego and this journo has that right.

What fooking ego?? The guy has talked and backed himself up, all his life! If he demands more from the millionaires at the club, performance-wise, then he is wrong?? What is wrong with the players improving themselves to the benefit of the club and themselves?

I, like Mancini, can only shake my head in exasperation at some of the players' inability work to their pay packet.

If you don't think MAncini has a huge ego then you have a head full of magic.

Watch the Sky coverage of the famous QPR game. What does Souness say when asked what he was like when he played with him? First words out of his mouth: "You couldn't tell him anything. Nothing. He was only seventeen but whatever it was, he knew better than you".

It's one of his strengths when he's having to force change through, but it's been his undoing in the longer term.

 

[pinkwheeltrim]

Well I for one will miss Mancini, yes he was a spiky, moody individual but he has shown great restraint in not punching Nasri and Dzeko full in the face at times!

Thanks for the FA Cup Roberto, thanks for the title, thanks for making Bacon Face look stupid just about every time you've faced him. Thanks for inspiring me to part my hair at the side rather than the middle. Thank You for being the reason my wife finally started coming to games.

Oh and they can say what they like but that goat stew fucking worked!

Forza Mancini!

 

[GaudinoMotors]

That's it then - he had to go
We don't want a manager who
1 has high expectations of the ability of well payed players
2 employs and Italian physio
3 isn't always all cuddly
4 didn't open up to a jouranlist in a restaurant
5 wants to exert control
6 didn't always say good morning to the kit washer

7 slagged his players in public
8 blamed everyone except himself for defeats
9 said players should ignore anything in the press then complains himself
10 kept playing 3 at the back when it obviously didnt work

Brilliant!!

Highly ridiculous situation.

1Yeah a real slagging - saying a player could or should do better
2 Did blame himself on numerous occaisions
3 it's not the players Job to handle the press it's the managers
4 there were occaisions when it did work - but we'll gloss over those - and anyway no manager gets it right all the time - if you expect that we'll be changing managers as often as er er Man City!

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

Yeah every 3.5 years!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-sack-roberto-mancini-3810961

By Stuart Brennan 4 Comments
Arrivederci Roberto! Blues axe Mancini
14 May 2013 09:49
Roberto Mancini is in line for a £20m pay-off after Manchester City sacked him. MEN's Blues reporter Stuart Brennan lifts the lid on why the Italian was shown the door.

Roberto Mancini – sacked a year to the day after leading City to the Premier League title – is in line for a pay-off of up to £20million.

The Blues had intended to make an announcement that the Italian – one year into a five-year deal – had been axed at the end of the season.

But after the team, assembled at a cost of £185m, flopped in the FA Cup to minnows Wigan at Wembley on Saturday and news leaked out that the Blues’ hierarchy were lining up Malaga's Manuel Pellegrini as the new boss, the club’s hand was forced.

Despite being adored by most City fans, Mancini’s position had become untenable, and after discussions all day on Monday among club chiefs here and in Abu Dhabi, they decided on the inevitable.

Assistant manager Brian Kidd will take charge of the Blues for the final two Premier League games, at Reading tonight and at home to Norwich on Sunday – and for the week-long US tour which starts next week.

There remains a huge question mark over the future at City of David Platt, the head coach who was closest to Mancini amongst the back room staff.

Pellegrini is still City’s number one choice, and it is an open secret in Malaga, where the 59-year-old Chilean is coach, that he will join the Blues after the end of the Spanish season on June 1.

But Barcelona, Paris St Germain and Napoli are also interested in his services, and without his signature on a contract, City are not certain they have their man.

Pellegrini said on Sunday night that he had no agreement with anyone, although he has made it plain that his position at Malaga in Spain is impossible, with financial problems forcing them out of European competition and to sell star players.

Their prize asset is Spanish international Isco, who City hope Pellegrini will bring with him.

The official reason Mancini was shown the exit door was because it was felt the team had stagnated under his charge, not performing as well as they did last season, and flopping for a second time in the Champions League.

The official statement also talks of the need for a “holistic approach” – Mancini was focused on the first team, and City want someone who can draw together the threads of the Academy and elite development squad, and have them all working in a similar fashion.

Pellegrini was noted for his work in that regard at Villarreal, where he helped to set up a youth system which was a budget copy of Barcelona’s famed set-up.

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Mancini would frustrate and annoy some staff by playing his sons Filippo and Andrea in the junior sides, when it was clear neither was good enough.

Andrea came to the defence of his father.

The 20-year-old, who plays for Real Valladolid B in the Spanish third division, tweeted: “Money cant buy class! Show some respect for the manager that Made you win after 44 years!”

The former City youngster, who played for the Blues elite development squad and also went on loan to Oldham, was then inundated with messages from City fans asking him to pass on their best wishes to his dad.

But another significant factor in the decision, which was taken a fortnight ago, was Mancini’s man-management – he has clashed with several players during his three and a half year stay, and had poor relationships with many of his staff at Carrington.

Mancini has angered players including Joe Hart, Vincent Kompany, Micah Richards, Joleon Lescott, Samir Nasri, Kolo Toure, and others this season with public criticism.

There will be few tears shed for Mancini’s departure in the dressing room, and the Italian’s special treatment of Mario Balotelli also caused problems.

Mancini’s tendency to blame others, in public, was also not welcomed by his bosses. He began by pointing the finger of blame for last summer’s failings in the transfer market on Brian Marwood, who has subsequently been moved across to head up the new Academy project.

Marwood has maintained a dignified silence on the matter, but the reasons for missing out on targets are complex. City did not want to pay the asking price for Eden Hazard, and Robin van Persie and Javi Martinez were set on joining United and Bayern Munich despite City’s attempts to woo him.

That was noted by Khaldoon, and by incoming Spanish pair Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain, and Mancini’s attempts to blame PR chief Vicky Kloss for his situation, after the FA Cup final, underlined the point.

But the 48-year-old, as well as leaving a trail of silverware, glorious victories and some special football, also leaves a trail of bad blood.

As well as angering players, he has also clashed with medical and support staff at Carrington, and is seen by many of his colleagues at the club as an arrogant, aloof figure, very different to the jovial figure who appears at media briefings.

Mancini had been asked to improve his man-management last summer, as well as being told the owners expected a better showing in the Champions League and a solid defence of the Premier League title.

Haha. After all those fawning pieces, Stuart Brennan knew what was going on behind the scenes, too.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

So instead of backing and allowing a manager to exert authority over players we now have a player cartel - worrying

 

[Petetheblu]

That's the best article I've read yet on Mancini's depature, although it only scratches the surface on perhaps the biggest issues of all: his relationship with the players and tactical errors. But he is, of course, an enormous ego and this journo has that right.

What else do you know Dave as your plea for a new coach several months ago was a strong one and I know you and billy are mates so I'm sure there was other reasons for your disapproval of mancini other than tactics?

There are things I've heard and things I've seen. Some I've been vocal about, some I haven't. Some are just the day-to-day things that go on in a football club but others are signs of serious problems.

I don't want to seen to be gloating on a day when a lot of people are very shocked, so I'll leave it there for the time being. I wanted him gone bit I'm not going to dance on his grave.

Regardless of his short-comings, noone can ever take away the cup win, the 6-1 and the title victory. They are golden memories in MCFC's history and he will always be a part of them.

Good luck to him wherever he ends up. Monaco? Roma? Who knows.

Hahaha, l thought bingo when I read that first sentence.....

However dave it was wrong of me to ask you to spill the beans as to speak, I respect your silence........now where's that Billy got to! ;^)

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Yeah every 3.5 years!

Shows how you've come to accept our apalling record of managerial revolving doors - quoting 3.5 years like it's a long time

 

[Bigga]

That's it then - he had to go
We don't want a manager who
1 has high expectations of the ability of well payed players
2 employs and Italian physio
3 isn't always all cuddly
4 didn't open up to a jouranlist in a restaurant
5 wants to exert control
6 didn't always say good morning to the kit washer

7 slagged his players in public
8 blamed everyone except himself for defeats
9 said players should ignore anything in the press then complains himself
10 kept playing 3 at the back when it obviously didnt work

Brilliant!!

Highly ridiculous situation.

Don't misquote me, arsehole.

3 out of 4 of those added were justified. For number 10, how the fook can you not work out how to play 3-5-2 when you have been learning since pre-season??

Clearly footballing ability doesn't equate to footballing intelligence, then!!