North Stand Construction Discussion

[Centurions]

It’s crazy isn’t it. Yet some City fans will still side with the club on this, blinded by their loyalty to the club.

I was looking down from ESL3 during the Huddersfield match and wondering why those missing 1000+ seats still haven’t been put back in for the sake of larger advertising boards. What’s more important to the club, additional revenue from larger advertising boards or 1000+ extra City fans in the ground on a match day?

On the pitch you can’t fault the club, Pep or the team. Off the pitch we really do have to question the way the club is run, and the way they treat the fans, regardless of record revenues and an £80+mill pound profit.

Missing seats, SSL1.

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You know damned well that those pitch side seats weren't popular as they were too low and had no cover whatsoever, why bring them up once more?

 

[bluesmith]

You really think that making 650 seats padded or not will make any real difference to the price of a £350m development? All the details of the plans will be subject to change, they probably have 18 months to decide the final outcome of the design and type of seats / numbers During the south stand development I was invited to a number of fan focus groups, which took place when structural work was already underway. The club were trying to gage opinion on a number of ideas. One popular one was to try and encourage a singing section in the upper tier and give priority to anyone who wanted to move there to be part of a singing section

Where have i said it will make a real difference to the price? It does confirm what the design currently calls for which is hospitality light and was my point in that post.
But this has been covered to death already.

 

[Mike N]

You know damned well that those pitch side seats weren't popular as they were too low and had no cover whatsoever, why bring them up once more?

We were relocated to SS1 on Sunday and had a walk down to the pitch side before the game. Coincidentally we were discussing the absolute awful seats that had been put in and taken out. The view of the pitch must have been terrible!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I did state the Huddersfield match had sold out. I wasn’t questioning that.

I questioned why there were so many empty seats, and there were, all over the ground for such a cheap game, pretty much a family day out, a good kick off time, good weather, etc.

And no, I’m not giving RAWK, the CAF, or any other rival fan forum the ammunition to have a go at us. They already do that anyway.

Just like everyone else I want the Etihd to be full for every match. Because for every City fan that buys a ticket and doesn’t turn up, there is another City who can’t buy a ticket, but would turn up. After all, we’ve got 120,000 fans waiting for a season ticket according to City.

You are doing our fans down AGAIN.

The stadium was sold out well in advance. For any game at any stadium there will be a proportion of people who can’t go, they might be ill, whatever. As we have a high number of season ticket holders who are on the cup schemes through necessity we will always have them.

If we are playing a title decider or a massive match that number will be tiny but for a shite game like Huddersfield the number will be higher and there will be fewer people who want to take that ticket from them at the last minute. No club, not even those you seem to look up to, avoid that problem.

Stop doing our fans down and look at things with a bit more perspective. It’s getting irritating and repetitive.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

City will be still here when you’re long gone so don't annoyed or upset. Change happens do you think City have always put their fans first if you do you are living in cloud cuckoo land. My first match I was taken to see was in 1948 and started going to the matches home and away in 1957 when I left school.it cost me all my money because football was not cheap then and believe me they were not bothered about us then and are not now. that's life and you may not believe it but you won't change it. You can get out all the black flags you want, I've been on front line pickets and what did it change nowt. So keep writing on the forums and social media but you can't win.

Unless I’ve read your post wrong, you’re basically saying just give up and accept being priced out? It’s such a defeatist attitude to have.

If it wasn’t for fans standing up for themselves we wouldn’t have got £30 away tickets, safe standing or helped to stop the super league.

Change happens ie thousands of fans get priced out. We should never accept that. Fans have more power then you think

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

You know damned well that those pitch side seats weren't popular as they were too low and had no cover whatsoever, why bring them up once more?

What is that based on? I reckon they would sell out pretty quick if on sale now.

I was in the rows behind the front in block 107. I know the front row was never on sale as they were held back for club staff and ticketing agencies.

The seats that were available to season ticket holders in the row over, as far as I could see, were always full. They did it because the advertising boards make more money than season tickets do.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

I did state the Huddersfield match had sold out. I wasn’t questioning that.

I questioned why there were so many empty seats, and there were, all over the ground for such a cheap game, pretty much a family day out, a good kick off time, good weather, etc.

And no, I’m not giving RAWK, the CAF, or any other rival fan forum the ammunition to have a go at us. They already do that anyway.

Just like everyone else I want the Etihd to be full for every match. Because for every City fan that buys a ticket and doesn’t turn up, there is another City who can’t buy a ticket, but would turn up. After all, we’ve got 120,000 fans waiting for a season ticket according to City.

You’ve answered your own question. We’ve got a few thousand supporters that can’t be arsed with certain games - league or cup - and can’t be arsed either listing their ticket or transferring it to friends and family.

There will be hundreds on the cup scheme guaranteeing them for big games and finals later in the season but can’t be arsed with Huddersfield in January.

Sad but true

 

[Beaker]

Unless I’ve read your post wrong, you’re basically saying just give up and accept being priced out? It’s such a defeatist attitude to have.

If it wasn’t for fans standing up for themselves we wouldn’t have got £30 away tickets, safe standing or helped to stop the super league.

Change happens ie thousands of fans get priced out. We should never accept that. Fans have more power then you think

Unfortunately we have such an apathetic fanbase when it comes to issues such as this. I do like the fact that we don’t take ourselves too seriously most of the time unlike certain other fanbases but we’re being hung out to dry on tickets because of it. Fans of other clubs band together in the form of supporters trusts etc and do sometimes manage to get small concessions from their clubs because of it. We however, get nothing.

 

[Beaker]

You’ve answered your own question. We’ve got a few thousand supporters that can’t be arsed with certain games - league or cup - and can’t be arsed either listing their ticket or transferring it to friends and family.

There will be hundreds on the cup scheme guaranteeing them for big games and finals later in the season but can’t be arsed with Huddersfield in January.

Sad but true

I agree with this as well.

 

[levets]

Exactly.

Even though Huddersfield was sold out according to the OS there were hundreds of empty seats visible all over the ground. People will say they belonged to no shows, but I don't believe for one second that many City fans wouldn't turn up given the cheap cost of the tickets and the good weather.

As you say, City will have to sell an extra 8000 tickets in 2 years time. City aren't going to sell 8000 tickets at the current PL tickets prices, never mind PL tickets prices in two years time, apart from the big games.

Re Huddersfield. This was included in your season package for hospitality members such as Kits, Joes, Ardwick etc. Quite a few near me didn’t bother, probably as it was a freebie, it was freezing, it was ‘just Huddersfield’, a foregone conclusion and on TV. Still almost 52k however.

 

[jrb]

That was pretty much where I was going with my 'what's the difference' question re the Milan stand. You can't tell there, whether any of the seats cost kore than the others, are padded, or what bar they access.

And I think our stand should be the same, of there is no difference (there isn't) to the spacing and numbers of the seats (which elsewhere in the grounds there is for some of the hospitality areas), then what the + is really shouldn't make a difference to the atmosphere and look of it.

I never said the stands were similar.(I’m not say you said I did) They obviously aren’t similar, bar having a lower and upper tier, with the upper tier being bigger and with a greater dept( merging into the 3rd tier), just like the NS will be.(albeit with 2 tiers) As the Curva South has been given over to the ACMilan Ultras, I doubt there are padded seats in their section or below and above that section.



Can’t read Italian. But from what I could work out.

Terzo Verde - 3rd tier (green) €34
Secondo Verde - 2nd tier (green) €44
Primo Verde - 1st tier (green) €64

Like the vast majority of Italian grounds plastic seating is pretty basic and standard, even by PL plastic seating standards.



I tried to register for a ticket, but the system fucked up for some reason, so I took this screen grab of the seat and tier prices.(in Italian)

 

[jrb]

Re Huddersfield. This was included in your season package for hospitality members such as Kits, Joes, Ardwick etc. Quite a few near me didn’t bother, probably as it was a freebie, it was freezing, it was ‘just Huddersfield’, a foregone conclusion and on TV. Still almost 52k however.

Not criticising the gate or no shows. It was just a pity there were so many empty seats when City fans who wanted to go couldn’t get a ticket because it was sold out on the OS.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Re Huddersfield. This was included in your season package for hospitality members such as Kits, Joes, Ardwick etc. Quite a few near me didn’t bother, probably as it was a freebie, it was freezing, it was ‘just Huddersfield’, a foregone conclusion and on TV. Still almost 52k however.

My mate didn’t come. He’s been following City since the 50s, as big a blue as you can get. He’s had an operation recently and is struggling to walk and decided to watch on the telly. He’s not arsed about getting ten or twenty quid for it, especially as he’s not great on the internet or his phone.

I am sick of people who don’t attend any other matches making out that our fanbase is somehow inferior to anyone else’s because they read it from some teenage armchair fan on Twitter.

 

[jrb]

My mate didn’t come. He’s been following City since the 50s, as big a blue as you can get. He’s had an operation recently and is struggling to walk and decided to watch on the telly. He’s not arsed about getting ten or twenty quid for it, especially as he’s not great on the internet or his phone.

I am sick of people who don’t attend any other matches making out that our fanbase is somehow inferior to anyone else’s because they read it from some teenage armchair fan on Twitter.

Or some fellow Blue on Blue Moon. :-/

Only joking Dave. :-)

 

[Gordyola]

Where have i said it will make a real difference to the price? It does confirm what the design currently calls for which is hospitality light and was my point in that post.
But this has been covered to death already.

Yet the design and drawings issued show a distinct difference in those areas. Contractors don't ask for drawings they price what they are given by the designer / club.

 

[bluesmith]

Yet the design and drawings issued show a distinct difference in those areas. Contractors don't ask for drawings they price what they are given by the designer / club.

Again where have i said different? In fact I've pretty much said exactly that on this thread? Or are you copying a previous post of mine and if so why?

 

[Gordyola]

Again where have i said different? In fact I've pretty much said exactly that on this thread? Or are you copying a previous post of mine and if so why?

Why would I copy a post of yours?
The fact is you mentioned about the contractors seeing thousands of drawing and that they would quote a price based on those, inferring that the cost would be different which of course is correct My point is that the difference wouldn’t have any affect on a the project regardless of the type or number of seats

 

[bluesmith]

Why would I copy a post of yours?

I've no idea but that is exactly what you've done?

Yet the design and drawings issued show a distinct difference in those areas. Contractors don't ask for drawings they price what they are given by the designer / club.

Yet the design and drawings issued show a distinct difference in those areas. Contractors don't ask for drawings they price what they are given by the designer / club.

Anyway, I'm not sure having the same discussions again are adding to the thread so I'll bow out of the thread.

 

[nmc]

It’s crazy isn’t it. Yet some City fans will still side with the club on this, blinded by their loyalty to the club.

I was looking down from ESL3 during the Huddersfield match and wondering why those missing 1000+ seats still haven’t been put back in for the sake of larger advertising boards. What’s more important to the club, additional revenue from larger advertising boards or 1000+ extra City fans in the ground on a match day?

On the pitch you can’t fault the club, Pep or the team. Off the pitch we really do have to question the way the club is run, and the way they treat the fans, regardless of record revenues and an £80+mill pound profit.

Missing seats, SSL1.

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Maybe some of us FOCs just can’t believe our luck… After Swales and years of underachieving we finally have a great team and leadership within the club we could only have dreamed of 30 years ago. I resent this being passed off as misplaced loyalty, it’s a conscious decision to embrace the many things the club is doing well. In another 30 years time, some of you will look back on these times as the golden age of City. Some people just cant see that we’ve got it made and we have very little to moan and groan about - serious question ? Would you swap our Board for any other Board in the PL or the EFL? I wouldn’t.

 

[yarny101]

Nope, the club are planning to sell virtual reality season tickets in the Metaverse.

Will have crowds of 200k before too much longer!!

You can predict the shitty jokes on Twitter already.