Not just a Lescott thread. More a transfer request thread.

[metalblue]

I think it's very much Lescott's decision. Everton have reportedly said they won't sell for any price, City are reportedly looking at other targets but are, again reportedly, going to lodge one more bid. If he wants to join now is the time, possibly the last time, to tell Everton he wants to move, and ala SWP/Chelsea transfer we lodge our improved bid which Everton, sadly for them, would have to really accept as the player wants to move on.

If he does not want to come then fair play to him and Everton.

 

[johnmc]

No it isn't his decision (unless he has a break clause of some description in his contract) any more than it's Alonso's decision. It's strategy and it pushes the club into a corner and allows them to justify any subsequent sale to their supporters.

But we are not Real Madrid yet. When Real Madrid come calling then not many players resist.

Lescott can just sit back and watch all this happen really. If he doesnt move then he will be viewed as a hero by Everton fans, might even get a better deal out of it, he will be on £40k/50k regardless. If Everton accept the fee he can say he never wanted to leave so won't be seen as a money martyr, his wage will go up no doubt and he will join us knowing we are on the crest of a wave.

He can't really lose. Yes we might have a better chance of winning things in the future but Everton will be top half of the prem and in with a shout of the cups as well - and from his point of view he might still think that they can break the top 4.

 

[whp.blue]

love it how hughes isn't taking any risk only buying proven premier league players good move

that is not true there is a hugh risk

can he gel them into a team?

 

[Pam]

I don't like all this fence sitting. we have made a good offer and if he wants to join us then he should say so. I think he is going down the JT route where you say nothing and then when your current club gives you a better deal you can say you never wanted to leave and if they don't you can say you are leaving because your current club doesn't care.

If there is no answer by Monday - move on!

You may be right, Ronnie, about him going down the Terry route but it is so much less easy to understand than the Terry thing. By staying at Chelsea, Terry has another year of Chimps League and a good shout at Domestic honours (unlike Everton). He plays for a club that are a part of the "Sky Four" and he is Mr Chavsky with 14 years of playing for the club, many of them as a much revered captain. He has far less to lose in every respect. Lescott on the other hand, has been with Everton five minutes (by comparison) and like I say, has a long way to go to enjoy the kind of cult status that Terry enjoys with the Chavs; won't have to relocate; would be joining a club with a blindingly good future, wouldn't have to play in a chip shop of a stadium; wouldn't have to listen to the Z Cars theme every time he ran out and wouldn't have to wear a shite away shirt.

Simples. No comparison to the Terry saga whatsoever.

 

[dario2739]

It isn't really Lescotts decision is it. If he does hand in a request it doesnt mean Everton will accept and then he is a villain amongst the fans. Fans he probably has a lot of respect for. If Everton accept the bid then he can cite not being wanted and can move on with a clear mind.

No doubt he is more than happy to stay at Everon if that should be the case.

Before Rooney left Everton, Kenwright and Moyes slapped a £50mil price tag on him, but said they wouldn't sell him anyway. The rumours flying around then were that only Chelsea could afford him.
However - Rooney put in a a transfer request and Moyes said how disappointed he was and would only let him go when a team matched their valuation of him... and we all know how that ended up.

So basically the ball is in Lescott's court - if he wants to come to us he needs to bang in a transfer request and Everton will have to deal - otherwise he can stay there on his £35,000 a week and watch us power past them in the league... depends how ambitious he is really.
I do believe all the players that have knocked us back so far will be kicking themselves come the end of the season.

 

[Pam]

The following issue needs a thread of it's own. I think it is an important point but every time I raise it in the main thread, it sinks without trace because of all the other aspects of this proposed deal that e people are discussing. So I dedicate this thread to one question and one question only ... and here it is.

Why has Lescott not handed in a transfer request? Is he insane? He stands to earn £25 mill more than he would otherwise have had over the course of the next five years and his chances of winning silverware will be outrageously better than it would be if he stayed where he was, and speaking of trophy winning, God only knows what bonus payments the players will be on for winning things. The pay structure across the board in fact has to be seen to be believed and what is better still, it is utterly inflation proof.

Even the fringe benefits are second to none. We have a lear jet for the first team; we have state of the art training facilities that are endlessly being improved and developed and will, the owners promise, soon be the best in the world by a country mile ; we have an insane amount of money that not even an accountant could really get their head round, such is the unspeakable, mind-blowing enormity of it. Just as importantly, and unlike the pseudo millionaires of the Lerners and Glazers and Gillete's of this world, we're not afraid to spend it. It is also plain to see that the club is innovative and clever beyond the dreams of the likes of Abrom and the Kenyonites, which makes our prospects of success over the first decade of the project even more feasbile that it would if be if we had the fur coat, no knickers mentality of the Chavski's of this world. Christ, even our shirt is the nicest in the land.

I hear Everton have now said they wouldn't sell JL for even £30 mill, which means the ball is in Lescott's court and if he doesn't put a request in within the next 24 hours, then sack it. We are making history and Joleyn Lescott hasn't put a transfer request in??? I don't want him if he is really this gutless. Do you?

The majority of your points are based on Lescot making lots of money.
Not everyone is Influenced by it... maybe Including Lescot.

No. Some of it is about money. Just as much of it is about success on the field and being the best that you can be.

 

[avoidconfusion]

love it how hughes isn't taking any risk only buying proven premier league players good move

that is not true there is a hugh risk

can he gel them into a team?

smaller risk then buying lots of unproven non Premier League players and trying to make them gel. :)

 

[somervillain]

Patience. Everton would need to line up a replacement for Lescott before they allow him to move. They've been linked with Bolton's Gary Cahill in the press today, and that would make a ton of sense. This one could be resolved within the next week.

 

[Pam]

No it isn't his decision (unless he has a break clause of some description in his contract) any more than it's Alonso's decision. It's strategy and it pushes the club into a corner and allows them to justify any subsequent sale to their supporters.

He can't really lose. .

You must be joking! The train is leaving the station, John. As soon as we hit that top four, Lescott won't ever be on our radar again

 

[johnmc]

So basically the ball is in Lescott's court - if he wants to come to us he needs to bang in a transfer request and Everton will have to deal - otherwise he can stay there on his £35,000 a week and watch us power past them in the league... depends how ambitious he is really.
I do believe all the players that have knocked us back so far will be kicking themselves come the end of the season.

Not everyone is the same though. Lescott could easily feel some loyalty towards Everton. He might not want to pay back the trust Moyes has shown in him, and thank moyes for turning him into an international by handing in a request.