BlackaryDaggery
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Disappointing news in all honesty :'(.
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Our Suarez ...... not the racist one :)
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Neville Kneville
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Blue Haze said:We could have loaned him, but for some reason we didn't.
His time here has really made me question what we are doing. At least we have new management now to ensure this doesn't happen again.
Of course it will happen again, just as we will take players from other clubs. You can't force players to stay.
All of you will have to get used to it. If we have players people want, some of them will go. Also there will be loads of decent quality players who we don't think are quite good enough or as good as others in the same position. Sometimes we will get it wrong.
That's life.
Sure, I'd love him to play for the first team and make the grade, but from what I've read about him it seems that basically, he has one year left on his contract and has had his head turned by Barca. Maybe he would get a chance this season, but to all the people saying "we can't just let talent like him leave" - what do you want City to do? He won't sign a new contract because even if he started every single game he still prizes going to Barca as higher now that he knows they want him, and if we force him to stay then he will mope and grumble for 12 months then leave for free. It's nonsense to hold players in a situation like that. The trick is not letting them get like that in the first place. Once they have had their heads turned, though, they're gone and you just need to face it.
Mayor West
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Maybe he's just not that good. Mancini, Pellegrini and all the coaching staff see him day in day out and if he had showed any potential at all he would have got a chance. Yes barca want him, so he must have a bit of talent, but they don't always get it right. As it stands right now on current ability and any potential he has, I'm not bothered at all that he is leaving.
sam-caddick
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Mayor West said:Maybe he's just not that good. Mancini, Pellegrini and all the coaching staff see him day in day out and if he had showed any potential at all he would have got a chance. Yes barca want him, so he must have a bit of talent, but they don't always get it right. As it stands right now on current ability and any potential he has, I'm not bothered at all that he is leaving.
That's a theory that should be looked into.
Pellegrini has had all of pre-season to judge him as a player, if he has seen that he is good enough to make the step up he would of told Txiki, so it makes you think if Pellegrini does not rate him that highly enough.
Or, Barca have come in for him after the youth world cup just gone and Suarez feels like he wants to go to one of the big boys in Spain.
If he was that good I would be suprised to see City not put up a decent fight to keep him, so far it looks like they haven't so maybe he is not the player we all think he is??
Time will tell, but I just hope he is not our Pogba equivalent.
He's not leaving City for Barca, he's leaving city for Barca B (3 years there and the possibility of a fourth in Barca A)
He probably knows that he has a better chance of first team football at city than at Barca, but the lure of playing for Barcelona is very difficult to resist for a young spanish player, and with a year left in his contrcat there is not much city can do.
But a question that springs to mind is that if he is one of the most promising academy players, why city (txiki and maybe mancini) didn't offer him a new contract last season?
He probably knows that he has a better chance of first team football at city than at Barca, but the lure of playing for Barcelona is very difficult to resist for a young spanish player, and with a year left in his contrcat there is not much city can do.
But a question that springs to mind is that if he is one of the most promising academy players, why city (txiki and maybe mancini) didn't offer him a new contract last season?
Only read a few reports but all said the opposite of this? 1 year with Barça B and then 3 with the senior side.luna said:He's not leaving City for Barca, he's leaving city for Barca B (3 years there and the possibility of a fourth in Barca A)
He probably knows that he has a better chance of first team football at city than at Barca, but the lure of playing for Barcelona is very difficult to resist for a young spanish player, and with a year left in his contrcat there is not much city can do.
But a question that springs to mind is that if he is one of the most promising academy players, why city (txiki and maybe mancini) didn't offer him a new contract last season?
Joehannes said:Only read a few reports but all said the opposite of this? 1 year with Barça B and then 3 with the senior side.luna said:He's not leaving City for Barca, he's leaving city for Barca B (3 years there and the possibility of a fourth in Barca A)
He probably knows that he has a better chance of first team football at city than at Barca, but the lure of playing for Barcelona is very difficult to resist for a young spanish player, and with a year left in his contrcat there is not much city can do.
But a question that springs to mind is that if he is one of the most promising academy players, why city (txiki and maybe mancini) didn't offer him a new contract last season?
yep you are completely right, marca and sport said that. (I listened on the radio that was the opposite, but they must been wrong).
so is 1 year at barca b and then three years at barca "a"
Will Denis be ready for Barca after just one year on their "fillial" ?
ono
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It will most likely depend on how well he does.Joehannes said:Only read a few reports but all said the opposite of this? 1 year with Barça B and then 3 with the senior side.luna said:He's not leaving City for Barca, he's leaving city for Barca B (3 years there and the possibility of a fourth in Barca A)
He probably knows that he has a better chance of first team football at city than at Barca, but the lure of playing for Barcelona is very difficult to resist for a young spanish player, and with a year left in his contrcat there is not much city can do.
But a question that springs to mind is that if he is one of the most promising academy players, why city (txiki and maybe mancini) didn't offer him a new contract last season?
Sergi Roberto will move to the first team i think and Suarez will fight Roman for a place in the B team. Roman has had a good pre season.
avoidconfusion
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"Holistic" Approach my fucking arse
spongebob123
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Would be a silly mistake for him to leave, he's a lot more to lose than what there is to gain by moving. But it is his decision. I've seen him during the U20 tournament and he looked quite average to be honest, but he is young and in an EDS squad for a reason I guess.
He can stay at city, where they are pushing to streamline their best young performers through, directly through the system. A team that without a doubt have a promising upcoming couple of years at the top flight of football. Or he can join what can genuinely be seen as a forever weakening Barcelona team (Too many old players will be leaving the fold sooner rather than later) that will be out of the dominance service for a few years.
Obviously I'm a bit biased but I think my thoughts are on-track.
Also given the whole ISCO debacle, don't read anything into twitter/newspapers, sit on the current facts that can't be ignored. That twitter message is very weak wording 'hoping to sign'... well no shit.
He can stay at city, where they are pushing to streamline their best young performers through, directly through the system. A team that without a doubt have a promising upcoming couple of years at the top flight of football. Or he can join what can genuinely be seen as a forever weakening Barcelona team (Too many old players will be leaving the fold sooner rather than later) that will be out of the dominance service for a few years.
Obviously I'm a bit biased but I think my thoughts are on-track.
Also given the whole ISCO debacle, don't read anything into twitter/newspapers, sit on the current facts that can't be ignored. That twitter message is very weak wording 'hoping to sign'... well no shit.
NipHolmes
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sam-caddick said:Mayor West said:Maybe he's just not that good. Mancini, Pellegrini and all the coaching staff see him day in day out and if he had showed any potential at all he would have got a chance. Yes barca want him, so he must have a bit of talent, but they don't always get it right. As it stands right now on current ability and any potential he has, I'm not bothered at all that he is leaving.
That's a theory that should be looked into.
Pellegrini has had all of pre-season to judge him as a player, if he has seen that he is good enough to make the step up he would of told Txiki, so it makes you think if Pellegrini does not rate him that highly enough.
Or, Barca have come in for him after the youth world cup just gone and Suarez feels like he wants to go to one of the big boys in Spain.
If he was that good I would be suprised to see City not put up a decent fight to keep him, so far it looks like they haven't so maybe he is not the player we all think he is??
Time will tell, but I just hope he is not our Pogba equivalent.
Pellegrini bought Isco as a 19 year old lad and made him a key player. He knows a player when he sees one. If he lets Suarez go and doesn't make much of it in the press the us fans know the deal, he's usually vocal when he loses a player.
I dunno I'm kind of resigned to losing him at this point I just hope someone does a bit of reporting on this and explains what lead to him being sold because by all accounts from people on here he's quite a prospect. I'm sure there's a whole other side to this that we don't know about.
cmdub said:I dunno I'm kind of resigned to losing him at this point I just hope someone does a bit of reporting on this and explains what lead to him being sold because by all accounts from people on here he's quite a prospect. I'm sure there's a whole other side to this that we don't know about.
In the end, it'd be the club having little choice - take a few million now or lose him for free next summer. That it has gotten to the point he has 1 year left on his contract is very disappointing. I dread the same situation in future with Pozo because he is a monstrous prospect and I'm sure Real Madrid wouldn't mind him back some day if he becomes a top talent. We have to nurture our best prospects much better - Suarez is a classic case of misuse, playing one more year in the stagnant reserve system than was necessary. Mancini giving him just 1 appearance last season may have made his mind up.
LoveCity said:cmdub said:I dunno I'm kind of resigned to losing him at this point I just hope someone does a bit of reporting on this and explains what lead to him being sold because by all accounts from people on here he's quite a prospect. I'm sure there's a whole other side to this that we don't know about.
In the end, it'd be the club having little choice - take a few million now or lose him for free next summer. That it has gotten to the point he has 1 year left on his contract is very disappointing. I dread the same situation in future with Pozo because he is a monstrous prospect and I'm sure Real Madrid wouldn't mind him back some day if he becomes a top talent. We have to nurture our best prospects much better - Suarez is a classic case of misuse, playing one more year in the stagnant reserve system than was necessary. Mancini giving him just 1 appearance last season may have made his mind up.
Has he been sold then? It seems a bit strange, he posted a picture on twitter yesterday with the hash tags #MCFC #FUTURE.
Dimarino said:Has he been sold then? It seems a bit strange, he posted a picture on twitter yesterday with the hash tags #MCFC #FUTURE.
Not officially yet but the Spanish press seem to think it's as good as done.
Where did he post that picture? I can't see it on his Twitter.
he's referring to this: <a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/Shaun__Reynolds/status/364034949688459268" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/Shaun__Reynolds/sta ... 9688459268</a>LoveCity said:Dimarino said:Has he been sold then? It seems a bit strange, he posted a picture on twitter yesterday with the hash tags #MCFC #FUTURE.
Not officially yet but the Spanish press seem to think it's as good as done.
Where did he post that picture? I can't see it on his Twitter.
which suarez RT'd
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[/quote]
Pellegrini bought Isco as a 19 year old lad and made him a key player. He knows a player when he sees one. If he lets Suarez go and doesn't make much of it in the press the us fans know the deal, he's usually vocal when he loses a player.[/quote]
Good point..I always believed in suarez but I guess if pellegrini decides he's not a first team player then I trust his judgement..but I like to think he can be a star playmaker ..but I'm starting to think that maybe our academy and English football is not a suitable environment for a young inexperienced Spanish playmaker..to get experience in Spain first like Cazorla silva is one thing but they earned there reputations first..but I have to think Madrid and barca have gone after him for a reason..I hope
Pellegrini bought Isco as a 19 year old lad and made him a key player. He knows a player when he sees one. If he lets Suarez go and doesn't make much of it in the press the us fans know the deal, he's usually vocal when he loses a player.[/quote]
Good point..I always believed in suarez but I guess if pellegrini decides he's not a first team player then I trust his judgement..but I like to think he can be a star playmaker ..but I'm starting to think that maybe our academy and English football is not a suitable environment for a young inexperienced Spanish playmaker..to get experience in Spain first like Cazorla silva is one thing but they earned there reputations first..but I have to think Madrid and barca have gone after him for a reason..I hope
Georgian Maestro
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Pellegrini bought Isco as a 19 year old lad and made him a key player. He knows a player when he sees one. If he lets Suarez go and doesn't make much of it in the press the us fans know the deal, he's usually vocal when he loses a player.[/quote]
Good point..I always believed in suarez but I guess if pellegrini decides he's not a first team player then I trust his judgement..but I like to think he can be a star playmaker ..but I'm starting to think that maybe our academy and English football is not a suitable environment for a young inexperienced Spanish playmaker..to get experience in Spain first like Cazorla silva is one thing but they earned there reputations first..but I have to think Madrid and barca have gone after him for a reason..I hope[/quote]
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