tueartsboots said:Fair point except alcohol producers aren't armed criminals and they don't mix the alcohol with stricnene(?) rat poison, paracetemol, aspirin etc. All of which can be harmfulDidsbury Dave said:I respect anyone's right to put whatever they want into their bodies as long as it doesn't harm others.
But it is certainly hypocritical of a drinker to criticise a drug user.
And let's not forget that 95% of drug users are recreational, just like 95% of drinkers.
Matty said:twinkletoes said:La-di-da-di-da. Complete nonense!
Excellent retort. No attempt to argue the logic just a childish comment. You are aware that doesn't negate my point and only marginalises yours yeah?
twinkletoes said:Matty said:Excellent retort. No attempt to argue the logic just a childish comment. You are aware that doesn't negate my point and only marginalises yours yeah?
Such a baseless argument didn't warrant a reply.
Matty said:twinkletoes said:Such a baseless argument didn't warrant a reply.
Yet you gave one anyway.
So what you're saying is that:-
1 - the legality of a drug has absolutely no effect on the number of people who are likely to use said drug?
2 - The number of people using said drug will have absolutely no effect on the number of people requiring medical attention?
I'd suggest that both of those statements are the exact opposite of "baseless" and any argument to the contrary (not that you DID argue, you just made an entirely pointless response) would require serious corroboration.
twinkletoes said:Matty said:Yet you gave one anyway.
So what you're saying is that:-
1 - the legality of a drug has absolutely no effect on the number of people who are likely to use said drug?
2 - The number of people using said drug will have absolutely no effect on the number of people requiring medical attention?
I'd suggest that both of those statements are the exact opposite of "baseless" and any argument to the contrary (not that you DID argue, you just made an entirely pointless response) would require serious corroboration.
What you say is totally without foundation.
1. It was found that while 41% of 15-year-olds in the UK had tried cannabis, with 24% using the drug. In Holland 29% had tried the drug, while 15% had used it.
2. More regulation as to what goes into the drugs together with better advice will actually reduce the number of people needing treatment.
Producers don't cut but the final "dealer" does and can do heavily, I know a friend whose ex dealer would only sell top end stuff to them, if he knew it was heavily cut he wouldn't sell to them (He was a user so knew if the powder was pure or not)Sam Eto's P45 said:tueartsboots said:Fair point except alcohol producers aren't armed criminals and they don't mix the alcohol with stricnene(?) rat poison, paracetemol, aspirin etc. All of which can be harmful
TB Your argument could be used as a reason for legalisation? Take the production and distribution from criminals. At the same time make a standard as in alcohol, (pint,40% alcohol by volume etc).
Generally producers don't mix their product with contaminants you want your end user to return for more! It's a fallacy- rat poison etc.
tueartsboots said:Producers don't cut but the final "dealer" does and can do heavily, I know a friend whose ex dealer would only sell top end stuff to them, if he knew it was heavily cut he wouldn't sell to them (He was a user so knew if the powder was pure or not)Sam Eto's P45 said:TB Your argument could be used as a reason for legalisation? Take the production and distribution from criminals. At the same time make a standard as in alcohol, (pint,40% alcohol by volume etc).
Generally producers don't mix their product with contaminants you want your end user to return for more! It's a fallacy- rat poison etc.
End dealers don't care about "clients" a quick buck and fuck offDidsbury Dave said:tueartsboots said:Producers don't cut but the final "dealer" does and can do heavily, I know a friend whose ex dealer would only sell top end stuff to them, if he knew it was heavily cut he wouldn't sell to them (He was a user so knew if the powder was pure or not)
Plenty of Class A drugs are cut before sale. Its the drugs equivalent of a watered down pint. However this thing about being cut with rat poisin etc is a myth.
Drug dealers want their customers to be happy so they come back again.
It really is not in their interests to kill their customers. Not only do they lose future business but they ar very likely to be locked up for a long time.