Pep: 'The players deserve a full stadium, we need our fans!'

It's not about Cska away at all,that's what the press and the media just don't get especially talks port.

It's about the corruption that David Gill is party too,ffp,and all it stands for,in this country the United influence stinks rotten, and Gill is having his way at uefa too it's all bent, that's why I boo the anthem.
Our fine money got distrusted amongst other clubs,that's why I boo,gills influence,that's why I boo.it's bent and corrupt look at the new rankings and Co efficients, only Martin Samuel from the mail speaks out,cos the media love the rags.

Fuck off uefa,your corrupt organisation stinks , sick of hearing that it's about Cska away,which was out of order.ctid

This is what pisses me off as well. Water under the bridges for the past, that I can do, but not for present and future. And awarding money according to new rankings is no different from corporate hegemony.
 
There are almost exclusively negative comments on here about UEFA but I think they are in a very difficult position. It is the historically larger clubs that are mainly to blame for almost everything that happens. Fortunately we are now part of the group that effectively controls the Champions League. 16 of the 32 group places from 2018 will now go to the top 4 clubs in England, Spain, Germany and Italy without any need of play-offs. Every other country in Europe is left to fight over the remaining 16 places. It is becoming more of a close shop than ever but whose fault is that? UEFA attempted to make the group stages more accessible to countries outside the top 4 by making the fourth place teams compete against some of the better clubs thus allowing access to a few more minor clubs. This has had to be set aside not because UEFA didn't see it as fair but because of pressure from the top clubs.

I would like to ask what anyone on here would do if given full control of UEFA? When the cartel come knocking at your door saying that unless they get their way they will set up their own competition do you tell them to get lost and then lose Madrid, Barcelona, etc and finish up with a competition without 16 of the best teams? It's real life and maybe these clubs are collectively more important than UEFA.


Understanding some of your argument and logic, but it was not the " elite clubs " who imposed a fine for our team being late on the pitch whilst imposing lesser fines for a club whose supporters are blatantly racist , but UEFA broke an agreement and moved the goalposts regarding FFP , and subsequently imposed huge fines ( compounding that by sharing the fine money amongst the " fat cats " for doing precisely fuck all ) .

UEFA deserve the all the negative comments because they are basically a totally corrupt organisation , who by currying favour with the United's , Milan's, Bayern's etc clearly demonstrate, their contempt for the other teams who also help them to sell their product and keep them all in well paid employment.

" all pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others " - fits well with the UEFA ethos !

I doubt your sympathy for UEFA will find much support on this forum.
 
Can someone please tell me when Pep said stop booing??? He never said it, not once. He was asking for fans to support the team, fill the stadium. The only thing he said which could be misinterpreted was 'forget the past, the past is the past' this was said in context to supporting the team and people who have stayed away from CL games to ask them to come and watch the great football. This whole booing crap discussion in relation to this is a nonsense as it was never said by Pep, he was drumming up support for his players, simple as. Some of the stuff on here about Pep with regard to something he didn't say is disgraceful.
 
I would like to ask what anyone on here would do if given full control of UEFA? When the cartel come knocking at your door saying that unless they get their way they will set up their own competition do you tell them to get lost and then lose Madrid, Barcelona, etc and finish up with a competition without 16 of the best teams? It's real life and maybe these clubs are collectively more important than UEFA.
I'd tell whoever came knocking that they're welcome to break away but if they do they won't be playing in any league or cup run by a UEFA member association and that none of their registered players would be playing for their countries.

We'd soon see how keen they were.
 
I'd tell whoever came knocking that they're welcome to break away but if they do they won't be playing in any league or cup run by a UEFA member association and that none of their registered players would be playing for their countries.

We'd soon see how keen they were.
And give Gill the boot, you forgot that part.
 
The ban on your fans was separate and had been imposed as part of an earlier 1 game punishment. You played there on 30 Sep and the 3 game ban was imposed 3 days later. People had already booked and paid for travel, accommodation & visas by the time it became clear that away fans would be denied entry.

The only thing I think I got wrong was that I'm not sure any tickets were sold by City so any fans that travelled did so without tickets. But as they weren't offered any compensation, many decided to go anyway otherwise it was money down the drain. The fine on CSKA should have enough been big enough to refund those that had spent money.

The ban for your match is in the news October 3rd 2014. But the incident for which the ban was made was during the first match of the group stages against Roma. Since then it was "an open secret" that visitors will be banned from additional matches.

I still remember the thread about the Munich visitors here in the forum and it was pretty clear already in that that the same will happen to the City fans. The match against Roma was September 17th.

So yes, maybe that costs should have been reimbursed for visitors that booked their stuff prior to mid September for costs that could not be reversed after October 3rd. But who booked after the Roma match was just "stupid"...

About the whole topic - it is not just your club. Other clubs have their problem with UEFA, too.

UEFA favours Bayern... Sorry, they never did and they especially do not as Rummenigge cannot shut his mouth critisizing the UEFA...
 
The ban for your match is in the news October 3rd 2014. But the incident for which the ban was made was during the first match of the group stages against Roma. Since then it was "an open secret" that visitors will be banned from additional matches.

I still remember the thread about the Munich visitors here in the forum and it was pretty clear already in that that the same will happen to the City fans. The match against Roma was September 17th.

So yes, maybe that costs should have been reimbursed for visitors that booked their stuff prior to mid September for costs that could not be reversed after October 3rd. But who booked after the Roma match was just "stupid"...

About the whole topic - it is not just your club. Other clubs have their problem with UEFA, too.

UEFA favours Bayern... Sorry, they never did and they especially do not as Rummenigge cannot shut his mouth critisizing the UEFA...
I think we both agree that anyone who booked before Oct 3rd should be recompensed, which I'm pretty sure most did.

And I wasn't implying any favouritism to Bayern. As the next game after we'd both been in Moscow was you visiting us, both sets of fans agreed to boo the UEFA tune. The reaction of UEFA just encouraged it even more.

Do the Bayern fans still boo it?
 
There are almost exclusively negative comments on here about UEFA but I think they are in a very difficult position. It is the historically larger clubs that are mainly to blame for almost everything that happens. Fortunately we are now part of the group that effectively controls the Champions League. 16 of the 32 group places from 2018 will now go to the top 4 clubs in England, Spain, Germany and Italy without any need of play-offs. Every other country in Europe is left to fight over the remaining 16 places. It is becoming more of a close shop than ever but whose fault is that? UEFA attempted to make the group stages more accessible to countries outside the top 4 by making the fourth place teams compete against some of the better clubs thus allowing access to a few more minor clubs. This has had to be set aside not because UEFA didn't see it as fair but because of pressure from the top clubs.

I would like to ask what anyone on here would do if given full control of UEFA? When the cartel come knocking at your door saying that unless they get their way they will set up their own competition do you tell them to get lost and then lose Madrid, Barcelona, etc and finish up with a competition without 16 of the best teams? It's real life and maybe these clubs are collectively more important than UEFA.

That's easy any player who participates in a match not sanctioned by UEFA becomes ineligible to be selected for their national team. Wouldnt bother most of the English players but players from other countries still take pride in playing for their countries and aspire to it.
 
That's easy any player who participates in a match not sanctioned by UEFA becomes ineligible to be selected for their national team. Wouldnt bother most of the English players but players from other countries still take pride in playing for their countries and aspire to it.

I think it would bother the English players also but money talks and I could see eventually there will be a league involving these clubs. God knows where we will playing the games!
 
I think it would bother the English players also but money talks and I could see eventually there will be a league involving these clubs. God knows where we will playing the games!

Perhaps so but I think the longer players are choosing to go to other teams so they can play for their national side the longer it will take for a super league to get up and running.
 
Understanding some of your argument and logic, but it was not the " elite clubs " who imposed a fine for our team being late on the pitch whilst imposing lesser fines for a club whose supporters are blatantly racist , but UEFA broke an agreement and moved the goalposts regarding FFP , and subsequently imposed huge fines ( compounding that by sharing the fine money amongst the " fat cats " for doing precisely fuck all ) .

UEFA deserve the all the negative comments because they are basically a totally corrupt organisation , who by currying favour with the United's , Milan's, Bayern's etc clearly demonstrate, their contempt for the other teams who also help them to sell their product and keep them all in well paid employment.

" all pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others " - fits well with the UEFA ethos !

I doubt your sympathy for UEFA will find much support on this forum.

Yes, a bigger fine for being late on the pitch than racial chanting is ridiculous. I am not getting into FFP again which is history but anyone with in depth knowledge of accounts only had to look at them for five minutes to pinpoint what would likely be an issue. On your final comment, I would not have written had other people been expressing similar views!
 
Yes, a bigger fine for being late on the pitch than racial chanting is ridiculous. I am not getting into FFP again which is history but anyone with in depth knowledge of accounts only had to look at them for five minutes to pinpoint what would likely be an issue. On your final comment, I would not have written had other people been expressing similar views!

Good you must be very pleased with yourself - standing out from the crowd , well done !
 
I'm not sure which is more hilarious:
1. Champs League attendances are poor because people are put off by a bit of booing.
2. The players have the balls to perform at a packed Nou Camp, but can't cope with a bit of booing.
3. City fans will ignore their principles and do as their told.
 
What Pep wants, Pep should get, Blues.

I've read some genuinely interesting and articulate reasons behind wanting to boo or protest against UEFA. Also read an awful lot of very immature "ain't nobody telling me what to do i'll boo when i want right cuz it's my right" nonsense.
 
I'm not sure which is more hilarious:
1. Champs League attendances are poor because people are put off by a bit of booing.
2. The players have the balls to perform at a packed Nou Camp, but can't cope with a bit of booing.
3. City fans will ignore their principles and do as their told.

No matter how hilarious you may find it, there is more than a grain of truth about 1. I doubt that anyone actually decides "the anthem will be booed so I'm not going" but the booing is part of the negativity that surrounds the CL. Its certainly not the main reason (not compared to crap performances in the past, ticket prices etc) but it contributes to the feelbad factor.
 

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