Pep: 'The players deserve a full stadium, we need our fans!'

[Busmo Funbag]

The way we are playing at the moment I'd suck Pep off if he asked me so just not booing the anthem when he asks isn't a problem.

 

[mancity dan]

Everyone drowning it out by shouting City, or singing Blue Moon etc is great for the team & all the fans can get together on it.

Instead, there could be a small number of people booing it, drowned out by the music, because most of the rest have stopped.

If we all get together on supporting the club, it will be louder than the booing & nobody will hear the anthem at all.

This ^^^

 

[waterfootblues]

That's pretty much a perfect solution. Great idea.

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[Neville Kneville]

That's pretty much a perfect solution. Great idea.

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Not my idea, others suggested it earlier, but imo all of us shouting like fuck over their shitty jingle, in support of City, will get the atmosphere off to a huge roar when we kick off & give the players a real boost.

 

[hgblue]

He knows exactly what he's talking about.

The booing is a demonstration against UEFA not the fans backing City. If the main concern at the start of the game, is people protesting about the governing body rather than backing the team, it's a negative attitude, not a positive one.

He wants positive, not negative. He wants to attract people to the games, to support the team, not give them a good reason to stay away. He wants to win the competition.

Why can't all of us support City during the anthem & drown it out that way, rather than booing it ?

Or is it now a demonstration against Pep & the club ?

Protesting about the preferential treatment of big clubs in the game's governing body is a huge positive, and sets us apart from the crowd for the right reasons. Do we aspire to be a blue Manchester United, and take our place in the cosy cartel that we once railed against? Or do we stand for the possibility that if you stand by your club then one day you can live the dream that we're now living? We've made it. we're now a big club, so lets pull up the drawbridge and take our place in the elite? Every club needs a raison d'etre that is bigger than winning trophies, and fighting for a more egalitarian approach from the sports governing body should be ours. Remember City fans used to protest against UEFA and now they're part of the cartel they're happy to play along, is not a particularly healthy reputation to acquire.

 

[mcfc1632]

Curious how this thread has morphed.

I thought the main thrust of Pep's comments were to do with attendance and some posters brought up the associated issues to do with people fucking off crazily early - yes some have genuine reasons.

But - I am only at Page 57 so things might change - it all now seems to be about whether we should continue or stop booing the UeFA anthem - surely that was the minor point of Pep's comments?

FWIW I think people should stop or continue the booing based on their personal choice - we do not need to have consensus - what is worth talking about (IMO) is the issue of why people cannot see the game out (IMO - not all by any means have a genuine reason)

 

[Dribble]

I agree with your frustrations totally however:

Booing NOW is helping UEFA

There is no impending FFP court defeat it was thrown out on a technicality 12 months ago. That's not to say it won't be challenged again.

How is our booing helping UEFA?

What was thrown out on a technicality, FFP or the court challenge to it? As I understand it:

'All the court did was say the local Belgian court can't unilaterally lift the cumulative loss threshold compression. The EU SC wants to hear the case in toto for itself. UEFA can chatter away about the lawmaking entities that support FFP, but no court has passed judgement on it yet.'

'The Belgian court has essentially attempted to impose a remedy on a court above and is thus acting ultra vires. In any event, the ECJ will doubtless have decided that it needs to consider all the evidence before the final determination is made and then consider, if FFP effectively 'loses', what the appropriate remedy should be.

In plain English: The Belgium court can't tell the EU court what the punishment is before the EU court has made a decision after hearing both sides of the story.'

And this is the determination of a guy from Lancaster Uni who teaches EU law. https://twitter.com/AngusMacCul.../status/623870659265961984

G14/UEFA are crooks & liars & after the shady way they changed the FFP rules to ensure that instead of City being £3m inside FFP, that we ended up £3m outside it thus incurring a FIFTY MILLION POUND FINE, we should all know this as fact by now.......

You deal with the facts how you see fit mate, but for me I will continue to boo the fuck out of them....

 

[Cobwebcat]

Everyone drowning it out by shouting City, or singing Blue Moon etc is great for the team & all the fans can get together on it.

Instead, there could be a small number of people booing it, drowned out by the music, because most of the rest have stopped.

If we all get together on supporting the club, it will be louder than the booing & nobody will hear the anthem at all.

That's a good point too and one made by a few posters.

I really don't get the point that the supporters are right to boo because Pep won't be here when we still are.

I'd like to think that it's finally time to stop patting ourselves on the back for past loyalty (which was incredible) and start to look forward more. The entitlement culture within our fan base is too great at city now.

The new owners have done a Lot to improve the club and the team and, I know it's difficult, but it might be time to think what we can do for City again rather than what else City can do for us.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Protesting about the preferential treatment of big clubs in the game's governing body is a huge positive, and sets us apart from the crowd for the right reasons. Do we aspire to be a blue Manchester United, and take our place in the cosy cartel that we once railed against? Or do we stand for the possibility that if you stand by your club then one day you can live the dream that we're now living? We've made it. we're now a big club, so lets pull up the drawbridge and take our place in the elite? Every club needs a raison d'etre that is bigger than winning trophies, and fighting for a more egalitarian approach from the sports governing body should be ours. Remember City fans used to protest against UEFA and now they're part of the cartel they're happy to play along, is not a particularly healthy reputation to acquire.

Well unfortunately you & I have made fuck all difference by doing that & it's actually got worse at UEFA & the club is asking us to pack it in.

So if we drown it out by shouting City instead, it does both jobs.

 

[prof-taf]

Protesting about the preferential treatment of big clubs in the game's governing body is a huge positive, and sets us apart from the crowd for the right reasons. Do we aspire to be a blue Manchester United, and take our place in the cosy cartel that we once railed against? Or do we stand for the possibility that if you stand by your club then one day you can live the dream that we're now living? We've made it. we're now a big club, so lets pull up the drawbridge and take our place in the elite? Every club needs a raison d'etre that is bigger than winning trophies, and fighting for a more egalitarian approach from the sports governing body should be ours. Remember City fans used to protest against UEFA and now they're part of the cartel they're happy to play along, is not a particularly healthy reputation to acquire.

But that's not what people are saying, they are suggesting drowning out the anthem with a positive chant supporting the team rather than negative booing. The message to UEFA is the same.