PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[MillisleBlue]

They live in a strange World

They're managed and manipulated in a carefully-controlled environment where dissention or other opinions are not tolerated. Kinda like a cult...

 

[Chris in London]

For what it's worth i found this link which looks at the case from a legal standpoint.

I feel he explains how difficult it is going to be for the PL to get these charges to stick.

Yeah, he’s mostly correct. He is in particular correct to emphasise the seriousness of the main allegations, namely that for 9 years our board have knowingly signed off false accounts. That’s an allegation of criminal conduct against some exceptionally high profile people.

He gets into a bit of a tangle about the standard of proof, but I suspect that this is not because he doesn’t understand the concepts involved, He has just struggled to simplify the concepts to a non-legal audience.

I think he’s wrong to say that the non-co-operation charges really stand or fall with everything else. The non-co-operation charges are, if you like, about the procedure within the investigation rather than the substance of what’s being investigated, and so far I think it’s fair to say we haven’t covered ourselves in glory in co-operating with the PL. That’s where I think we are most at risk.

There is of course a degree of risk on all the charges, but generally speaking he is correct to say the PL have got a mountain to climb, and when you think about the task they face it really is amazing that they brought the case at all.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

The way I see it is this is never going away. If we are found guilty we are cheats. If we’re found innocent we are cheats anyway. We can’t win. So really, do we care?

It seems many fans, the club, Pep, are turning the negativity to our advantage. It’s us against them and a lot of us are comfortable with that.

Every stone thrown our way by the cartel sponsored media is just more aggregate for us to build a wall between us and them.

In the trend of the 80s hit ‘Everywhere’ I’d love for the City fans to go further back to the late 70s with Pink Floyd’s ‘Another brick in the wall’. Here’s my clumsy attempt of a collective message to Delaney, Liew etc.

You don’t have no education.

You don’t have no thought control

You’re dark sarcasm in the pressbox

Delaney leave them boys alone

Hey, Migel, leave them boys alone

Cuz

All in all it’s just another brick in the wall

All in all your just another prick who will fall


Like I said, clumsy, but I imagine being at the ground, hearing that baseline come in and 50k City fans sticking a collective ‘fuck you’ up to the rag media.

I'd prefer "You're just another Prick in the wall"

 

[Tangled up in blue.]

It will be 3 lawyers. It doesn't have to be but I am sure it will be

So if it is 3 lawyers, does anyone know what their personal back ground is, will anyone know if they're interested in football, if they are interested they must favour a certain club, or maybe even despise some.
To be fair I dont know where I'm going with this

 

[SilverFox2]

They live in a strange World

Cults are like that they live in closed environment that refuses to adapt to the changing modern world.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Cults are like that they live in closed environment that refuses to adapt to the changing modern world.

That's right. Oh, you said cults .....

 

[Chris in London]

But I would imagine it's almost suicidal professionally to make charges like that if they can't prove them? I can't imagine that even the PL is that stupid. Strike that, maybe I can.

We have no idea what the PL were advised, if they were advised at all, before bringing these charges.

If they were advised, and I imagine they were, I strongly suspect the discussion went along these lines:

LAWYER: “If we want to make these charges stick, we’ve got some serious difficulties ahead. (discusses difficulties at length.) For all those reasons I give you maybe a 20% chance of success, and a very big chance that you will generate very considerable adverse publicity with unforeseeable adverse consequences for yourselves if you fail. Are you sure you want to go ahead?”

PL: “Absolutely.”




EDIT I must add in case it is not sufficiently clear that the decision to proceed was the PL’s and the PL’s alone. They may have taken into account factors beyond the simple prospect of success.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

I'd prefer "You're just another Prick in the wall"

Or "You're just another brick at the coach"

 

[ayrshire_blue]

We have no idea what the PL were advised, if they were advised at all, before bringing these charges.

If they were advised, and I imagine they were, I strongly suspect the discussion went along these lines:

LAWYER: “If we want to make these charges stick, we’ve got some serious difficulties ahead. (discusses difficulties at length.) For all those reasons I give you maybe a 20% chance of success, and a very big chance that you will generate very considerable adverse publicity with unforeseeable adverse consequences for yourselves if you fail. Are you sure you want to go ahead?”

PL: “Absolutely.”




EDIT I must add in case it is not sufficiently clear that the decision to proceed was the PL’s and the PL’s alone. They may have taken into account factors beyond the simple prospect of success.

PL: Wait 5 minutes until I get back to you

PL discusses lawyers advice with those who've been putting the pressure on them - FSG, Levy, Glazers etc. FSG, Levy, Glazers discuss with each other and "instruct" PL to proceed.

PL gets back to lawyers: "Absolutely"



Fair to suggest that might be the middle part?

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

We have no idea what the PL were advised, if they were advised at all, before bringing these charges.

If they were advised, and I imagine they were, I strongly suspect the discussion went along these lines:

LAWYER: “If we want to make these charges stick, we’ve got some serious difficulties ahead. (discusses difficulties at length.) For all those reasons I give you maybe a 20% chance of success, and a very big chance that you will generate very considerable adverse publicity with unforeseeable adverse consequences for yourselves if you fail. Are you sure you want to go ahead?”

PL: “Absolutely.”




EDIT I must add in case it is not sufficiently clear that the decision to proceed was the PL’s and the PL’s alone. They may have taken into account factors beyond the simple prospect of success.

If the decision to proceed was down to the PL alone, then I can only surmise that they acted because of the pressure brought by the PL clubs most likely to be affected by our success.

Whether they like it or not, the financial success of the PL includes the interest brought to the competition by City's success, so why try and kill that if not at the behest of those clubs who are being pushed out of the money trough.