PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Everton won't get relegated and were never going to qualify for a European place this season so this whole "harsh" 10 point deduction is a facade. It makes it look like the PL are taking a tough stance when in effect the net result to Everton will be negligible...

And it gives all these assholes another chance to scream bloody murder about us...what a joke...

Bingo! As always, the true target is City……

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

10 points very well might relegate them

Not a snowflake in hell’s chance given how out of their depth the 3 promoted sides are…..

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

lol wtf is balance of probability? Imagine tryin to prove theory of probability to a judge ,
“your honor 2+2 =5 therefore city is guilty “?

How did you manage to get hold of a copy of the PL’s summary grounds?!

 

[Paladin]

Do clubs apply directly to UEFA for their licence, or through the PL?

I recall a sports lawyer talking about this some time ago, & he explained it the associations who make up UEFA, not individual clubs.

The club's formed their own powerful lobby called the ECA which was dominated by the G/14 elite European Football Clubs.

That was my understanding of it, but I'm happy to be corrected.

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They apply to the PL for a licence. I assume the PL grants the licence for their clubs to play in UEFA competitions.

 

[bluemonkey71]

Anyone seen Rodney Marsh’s tweet?

“I believe City have, allegedly, prepared a monster counter defamation law suit in fact and in law”

KFA or ITK?

 

[Toranaga sama]

Anyone seen Rodney Marsh’s tweet?

“I believe City have, allegedly, prepared a monster counter defamation law suit in fact and in law”

KFA or ITK?

I'm wondering if the lawsuit against the PL or the usual suspect clubs....?

 

[John Wayne]

Anyone seen Rodney Marsh’s tweet?

“I believe City have, allegedly, prepared a monster counter defamation law suit in fact and in law”

KFA or ITK?

I have no doubt he's posting in good faith, but I don't think this would be leaked.

 

[Bez]

The baying mob has been enlivened by the recent ruling by the PL with regards to Everton. The stupids are speculating what will happen to City mostly based on no knowledge.

Interesting thought though, if City were guilty or there was at least a small chance we were going to receive a heavy sanction I would expect the following to have happened or be happening...

1. Haaland would not have signed for us.
2. Haaland would have asked to leave.
3. As above for other players.
4. Pep would have left.
5. Sponsors would be running for the hills.
6. We would have put stadium investment on hold.
7. Our performances would have dropped off.

In reality, the complete opposite has happened. Ignore the stupids on social media. Look at what's happening at City. City know what they have done in the past and what they going to do in the future. I believe in these guys, not some numb skulls on social media desperate for more likes and more followers.

Come on City!

 

[Dribble]

My prediction is that the PL screws us over but the new regulator allows us to take it to a real court where we ultimately win out. The regulator will hold off any punishment given by the panel until a verdict is reached.

I've learned so much the last 24 hours, that I've had to shift my views accordingly.

I've been stating that the PL have charged us without viewing our "irrefutable evidence", but I now believe I was mistaken.

My evolved view is that since all this started in 2018, the PL have leveled their accusations at City, & City have provided our defence evidence.

It also seems both parties differed on two substantive points.

1. The PL wanted full unrestricted access to our accounts & internal records, but City said no.

2. City wanted the process to be private & confidential, but the Law Courts disagreed & said the process was of public interest.

In respect to point one, City told the PL to be specific about their allegations & we'd provide the relevant defence evidence, as opposed to the PL going on a fishing trip & poring through all our confidential internal business records to see what they could find.

In respect to point two, fearing reputational damage, City wanted to keep the investigation process private & confidential & without leaks, as we experienced with UEFA. The courts disagreed.

I now believe the PL have gone through our evidence, but were caught flat footed by the Government's Independent Regulator for English Football (IREF) announcement in February 2023.

Panicked, the PL rushed out their judgement filled with administrative errors by citing the wrong PL rule book indeces, which they embarrassingly had to correct.

City denied any wrong doing & appealed the PL's ruling, so another three members from the PL's internal 6-person independent adjudication panel were selected to review the charges, evidence & defence again.

This is where I believe myself, & most of us have been mistaken. It took the PL FIVE YEARS to come to their rushed decision in February, so I feel expert onlookers have estimated the appeals process will take at least two years to complete, but could easily stretch to four years!

The reason no information about the appeal is being circulated by the PL or City is because the whole process is private & confidential, & when it's complete, the PL appeals panel will publish its verdict on the PL's website.

The time being taken now isn't because the PL have only just asked City for our evidence, which would take years to go through. I now firmly believe they've had our evidence all along, but because of the volume of PL charge evidence & City's defence evidence that the PL's appeal panel will have to wade through, it could take nearly as long again to review the tribunal bundles.

As always, if I'm wrong I'm more than happy to hold my hands up, & in this latest FFP case against City, I believe I've been calling this wrong.

This post now hopefully adjusts my considered view accordingly.

In Conclusion:

I doubt there's any fresh charges coming, or any new defence evidence being offered. Everything surrounding this hearing has already been submitted & adjudicated on.

The PL found us guilty on 115 charges & City have appealed their verdict. Another three members from the PL's 6-person appeals panel have been selected to review the case again, & this is estimated to take between two - four years.

The PL's appeal panel decision will be final & City can't appeal their verdict to the Law Courts, UNLESS it's to do with issues relating to the actual appeals process.

We know who the PL clubs are who're desperate to get City, which honestly doesn't bode well.

HOWEVER, before anyone starts stringing up a noose, don't forget IREF! This is the spanner in the works none of the old Sky 4, the Hateful Eight, or the PL were expecting.

I'm not holding out much hope the appeals panel will find any different to the PL's original 115 charges, BUT I believe IREF & ultimately the UK Law Courts will, just as CAS did.

It's game on folks & we're in a proper scrap with an organisation run by a cartel of legacy clubs who want us gone.

They tried to strangle us at birth, so their dominance could never be challenged by new money, so just like any progressive business would, City found LEGAL ways around UEFA & the PL's self serving FFP rules.

I believe this fight will come down to UK Sovereign Law vs the PL's Rules. This is why I believe IREF is our only & best way forward. )(

 

[richards30]

Anyone seen Rodney Marsh’s tweet?

“I believe City have, allegedly, prepared a monster counter defamation law suit in fact and in law”

KFA or ITK?

i could see this being true to be honest and the clubs name is truly in the mud now.