PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

I just hope the club finally decides to fight back after this, we have been far far too lenient with the media and individuals accusing us of all sorts over the last decade.
If found not guilty, it’s time they played dirty themselves, start banning certain media from the ground, take legal action for false accusations by individuals, do their own investigations like they did re Lee Mason and having him removed in our first title winning year, PGMOL be a good start, release the dirt on other teams activity inc the hacking scandal etc
 
bluealf said:
Tomorrow is groundhog Day and will be until a conclusion is reached.
In real life and in this thread.

Rinse and repeat for months to come.
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Mehh. Who cares? No-one knows what the real situation is. And the few people who do know shouldn't be telling anyone. And even if they do, it weakens their case and strengthens ours. Let the sports press write what they want. They wouldn't know the ins and outs of a complicated financial case if it hit them in the face. Those on here who spread doom and gloom on here need a slap, though.
 
I get why it has reared its head again... the narrative of sportswashing and financial doping is pretty much omnipresent in the media and if that were proven, it would appear to undermine the basic principle of fair play in sports. (Taking aside all the whataboutery of the double standards of FFP etc).

The other top clubs in the PL hate losing and will try anything to stop us. I'm not sure they see a downside to pushing for this: if proven, great, and if not it's still disruptive, right?

But will it be proven? I have no shadow of a doubt that our management have pushed the envelope of what was legal to its absolute limit. It's literally their job to do that. The entire club's professional ethos, and success, is based on pushing every last marginal advantage as far as as it can. And because we are the best run club in the world, we are very, very good at that. It will of course be the same with our accounting.

Will we have done things which are outside the spirit of the law? I wouldn't rule it out. Financial shithousery? Maybe. But fraud? Can't see it. I have no doubt we act very consciously within the letter of the law. And if it's proven that we don't, the management will have been colossally stupid and while it will be devastating as fans, the club will deserve everything that's coming to it. But I don't think that's likely.

If I have some sliver of doubt, it's the fear that we may have done something stupid in the early days of the takeover, before FFP and financial controls were so well established. And I am concerned that the process will drag on and destabilise us in the meantime. No PL player wants to have to force the thought of relegation because of legal action out of their minds on match day. And there are enough cases from countries like Italy to make that feel real, however the club will be reassuring players and agents. And no top player will want to join a club where that is a possibility. So I really hope it doesn't drag on and on.
 
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cheekybids said:
For that alone he should never be allowed to set foot in the ground. Sanctimonious bullshitting ****.
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Personally I always liked Henry Winter's writing and thought he wrote about City as a football team in a fair and even admiring way. Whether his opinion about the club's financial dealings ("cleared but not innocent") is based on mere journalistic instinct or guessing in the dark or an insight based on inside knowledge is a question that remains to be answered. It won't get answered fairly if the PL, which means rags, L'pool, Arsenal, are determined to do us in, but I don't think Winter himself is an active part of that conspiracy.

More generally, there's many City fans, I'm one, who always had the nagging thought that the dazzling brilliance of the last 12 years was a bubble that might burst. Let's hope they (we) are wrong.
 
bobom said:
I get why it has reared its head again... the narrative of sportswashing and financial doping is pretty much omnipresent in the media and if that were proven, it would appear to undermine the basic principle of fair play in sports. (Taking aside all the whataboutery of the double standards of FFP etc).

The other top clubs in the PL hate losing and will try anything to stop us. I'm not sure they see a downside to pushing for this: if proven, great, and if not it's still disruptive, right?

But will it be proven? I have no shadow of a doubt that our management have pushed the envelope of what was legal to its absolute limit. It's literally their job to do that. The entire club's professional ethos, and success, is based on pushing every last marginal advantage as far as as it can. And because we are the best run club in the world, we are very, very good at that. It will of course be the same with our accounting.

Will we have done things which are outside the spirit of the law? I wouldn't rule it out. Financial shithousery? Maybe. But fraud? Can't see it. I have no doubt we act very consciously within the letter of the law. And if it's proven that we don't, the management will have been colossally stupid and while it will be devastating as fans, the club will deserve everything that's coming to it. But I don't think that's likely.

If I have some sliver of doubt, it's the fear that we may have done something stupid in the early days of the takeover, before FFP and financial controls were so well established. And I am concerned that the process will drag on and destabilise us in the meantime. No PL player wants to have to force the thought of relegation because of legal action out of their minds on match day. And there are enough cases from countries like Italy to make that feel real, however the club will be reassuring players and agents. And no top player will want to join a club where that is a possibility. So I really hope it doesn't drag on and on.
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I wouldn't worry about either of those. They can't apply rules in place after 2012 to years before 2012, and I would imagine the rules in place before 2012 have plenty of scope for "creativity". And I doubt top players care much about the legal side other than having a "relegation then release" clause or for the top top players a " no CL then release" clause. They can get those, legal problems or no. Not sure that would affect performance either. Didn't seem to during the UEFA/CAS nonsense.

I suppose we will see.
 
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