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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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wolviedinho
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Reasonable responses not welcome. They must be doing something dodgy. Is that not how this works? -:)Big stadium at London prices.
Seriously tho, regardless of match day income, how they have managed to land some huge commercial deals with no on field return is a question that needs answered but hey they don’t win anything so no one cares.
bladdered
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Not that it'll help when discussing with the mouth breathers, but let's just get all factual for a minute. Below are the net spend tables, last 5 seasons, and then since Pep came in, and then the last 10 seasons (20 transfer windows). All from transfermkt, so assuming the underlying data is broadly accurate.
In the last 5 seasons, we are 7th for net spend, FACT (going all Benetiz now).
"but you hide the true fees". Nonsense, buyer and seller agree the fee, City can't pretend it was different.
"But Pep spent millions on full backs when he arrived." Maybe, but based on net spend since he arrived, we are 3rd, and only €5.5 millon above Arsenal in 4th, or about 0.7%, neglibible.
"But you'd been spending wildly for years before that, allowing you to build up the squad". So go back 20 transfer windows, all players who were bought so long ago are well out of the system and irrelvant. We are second behind United, but only about 0.5% above Arsenal and 10% above Chelsea, negligible differences over a decade. And all back before we added another 7 PL titles, and tons of other trophies, so we were needing to over-pay to attract players back then.
"City have unlimited wealth, and have vastly outspent everybody else". That's simply not true (as if they'll care about the truth). United, Chelsea and Arsenal have spent more or similar, by any realistic test or timeframe. They just spent badly. At United, expensive world class players arrive to just disintegrate into a mess, At City, very good players become superstars.
These are the un-reported, un-mentionned, covered-up, actual facts. They don't suit the narrative, so you won't read them elsewhere to any great extent.
"But your wages are huge", well maybe but not massively greater than the rest of the top 5 (ex spurs). But guess what? If you win loads of things, your players will get bonuses. The others should actaully be more concerned with what they are paying players for losing...
Last 5 Seasons, 10 transfer windows.
Club Chelsea FC Manchester United Arsenal FC Tottenham Hotspur Newcastle United Aston Villa Manchester City West Ham United Liverpool FC Nottingham Forest
Pep’s Seasons
Club Manchester United Chelsea FC Manchester City Arsenal FC Tottenham Hotspur Newcastle United Aston Villa West Ham United Liverpool FC Wolverhampton Wanderers
Last 10 seasons, 20 transfer windows.
Club Manchester United Manchester City Chelsea FC Arsenal FC Newcastle United Tottenham Hotspur Liverpool FC West Ham United Aston Villa Crystal Palace
Just a point on transfermarkt.
It separates out some academy players, often with little logic, so Man City U21s have a £90m transfer profit in the last two seasons alone, which wouldn't show up in that list above.
Including players who have nothing much to do with the first team is one reason why net spend is a pointless comparison between Pep and others, but it does make a difference to the overall club finances.
manimanc
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Worked a treat and was a fantastic read. Thanks for putting it up.Hope this works as I am still learning how to use archive.ph
Anybody with more knowledge about the case who can have a look at this and see if he makes any valid points or is it just the usual anti city bullshit
Clue is on his name but his magic only comes out of his anus
Anybody with more knowledge about the case who can have a look at this and see if he makes any valid points or is it just the usual anti city bullshit
Cockney Rhyming Slang
Anybody with more knowledge about the case who can have a look at this and see if he makes any valid points or is it just the usual anti city bullshit
Without reading it I can already tell you it’s bullshit cos the any ‘evidence’ is based on doctored hacked emails.
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That was on rawk and they loved it. So I guess it was bullshit