PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Coatigan]

Humility! They're the most bizarre fan base...

Meh. Got nothing on the You Just got Kaned lot.

 

[horlock_was_super]

Maybe the UK or US could have ethics that look after their citizens.

• free education in national schools and universities
• free healthcare in national hospitals (and private for Abu Dhabi)
• scholarships for university for high achievers
• free land for new families , which take couple of years to get
• subsidized loan with zero interest to build hous on that Land. ( Abu Dhabi citizins)
• Government jobs for Citizens prioritised
• Significantly cheaper electricity and water tariffs.
• Also they have exclusive access to diwans of sheikhs, where they could ask for favours, exceptions, pardons, etc.

No mention of roads or aqueducts I see.

Not that good then.

 

[Bluewonder]

Last time I looked the UAE wasn’t even in the top 100 on the list for human rights abuse. It was below most of Africa, Asia, and South America for starters. Not to mention the USA, China, Russia, and Saudi. The criticism of the UAE has been a false narrative since Sheikh Mansour bought City.

Wrong - the UAE has the 31st worst human rights in the world:

Human rights index

Based on the expert estimates and index by V-Dem. It captures the extent to which people are free from government torture, political killings, and forced labor; they have property rights; and enjoy the freedoms of movement, religion, expression, and association. The variable ranges from 0 to 1...

ourworldindata.org

The USA has the 21st best.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

A minute passed. Then another. Then another minute.

Then ....... another minute passed. Then another minute, passed. Then another.

Another minute passed quickly, followed by a further minute, when, suddenly ....... a different minute passed. Followed by another different minute. And another. And yet a further different minute.

After a minute, a further different minute passed quickly past.

A minute passed. I glanced at my watch. It was a minute past.

This was it!

A minute passed. After a moment, another minute passed.

I waited a minute while a minute passed quickly past. After a minute, a minute that seemed to last an hour but was, in fact, only a minute, passed.

All hail the Pythons!

That's why the sports washing accusations are complete bollocks, it's not a thing, it's completely made up.

The UAE is not engaged in sports washing coz they've nothing to wash. The people of the UAE will get to wherever it is they're going under their own steam and in their own time and their position in some league table of universal human rights, drafted in New York, London or Brussels, means absolutely nothing to them and likewise the vast majority of people on this planet in all its glorious diversity.

You could make a reasonable case for ‘sports washing’ falling under the wider umbrella of the UAE’s 2017 Soft Power Strategy, so it perhaps shouldn’t be dismissed totally out of hand, but personally I don’t think that was the sole, or even primary, reason SM bought the club. It’s a convenient stick to beat us with either way

 

[supercity88]

Sportswashing is a sound bite slogan created by human rights groups to help promote their cause. The idea that Gulf countries only invest money to enhance their image is absurd.

It really annoys me when I hear that slogan used. Every nation going is "washing" their image through a combination of policies/investments. This country does significant business with Saudi Arabia which barely gets a mention. But should they try and invest in a football club, host a World Cup or promote boxing/football in their own country we suddenly have a huge issue with it.

There are complicated politics, which are largely none of our business. If they follow religious scripture as the basis of their laws - which condemn homosexuality for example, then who are we to judge. It wasn't that different in western countries that long ago. And some of them still have plenty of issues/objections to it within large parts of their population.

In terms of construction workers and the number that die on construction projects. One of the major contributing factors to that, which is never really mentioned, is people are lying about their skills in order to get the jobs. You've got people coming from absolute poverty in other nations and they're willing to do anything to get paid more money. They'll lie about their skillset to get those jobs, and it's not like England where we have extensive laws around construction and health and safety (which still get breached fairly regularly). That doesn't make it okay, and there's still so much more they could and should do to improve things, but it's a major factor.

 

[cheekybids]

No mention of roads or aqueducts I see.

Not that good then.

Streets are safe to walk at night

 

[cheekybids]

It really annoys me when I hear that slogan used. Every nation going is "washing" their image through a combination of policies/investments. This country does significant business with Saudi Arabia which barely gets a mention. But should they try and invest in a football club, host a World Cup or promote boxing/football in their own country we suddenly have a huge issue with it.

There are complicated politics, which are largely none of our business. If they follow religious scripture as the basis of their laws - which condemn homosexuality for example, then who are we to judge. It wasn't that different in western countries that long ago. And some of them still have plenty of issues/objections to it within large parts of their population.

In terms of construction workers and the number that die on construction projects. One of the major contributing factors to that, which is never really mentioned, is people are lying about their skills in order to get the jobs. You've got people coming from absolute poverty in other nations and they're willing to do anything to get paid more money. They'll lie about their skillset to get those jobs, and it's not like England where we have extensive laws around construction and health and safety (which still get breached fairly regularly). That doesn't make it okay, and there's still so much more they could and should do to improve things, but it's a major factor.

Migrants from India & Phillipines living in abject poverty go to UAE & Qatar to work & send money back to families & no one criticises their homeland.

 

[bluekeith]

Who wants to book miggles for a book signing?

 

[KS55]

Last time I looked the UAE wasn’t even in the top 100 on the list for human rights abuse. It was below most of Africa, Asia, and South America for starters. Not to mention the USA, China, Russia, and Saudi. The criticism of the UAE has been a false narrative since Sheikh Mansour bought City.

Nobody in the corridors of power in AbuDhabi cares a damn about sports washing. They believe they have their system and we have ours. In activities in this country, they are scrupulous in obeying our rules and regs.
They are investors looking to expand their markets and make a profit. Unless the UK decides not to trade with them a la Russian sanctions, Miggy and his like are pissing in the wind.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Wrong - the UAE has the 31st worst human rights in the world:

Human rights index

Based on the expert estimates and index by V-Dem. It captures the extent to which people are free from government torture, political killings, and forced labor; they have property rights; and enjoy the freedoms of movement, religion, expression, and association. The variable ranges from 0 to 1...

ourworldindata.org

The USA has the 21st best.

Ok but the last one I saw was from Amnesty. It is a moving feast. My point remains that the UAE does not deserve to be singled out as a special case just because City’s owner happens to be from the UAE.