PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[adr2.8i]

apologies guys, but has something happened in the last few days regarding the investigation? has there been an update or something? i havent read anything new in the papers??? thanks

 

[Silva2021]

£300m in prize money
€70m new sleeve deal
£150m sales
£ money still owed

Go & spend the fucking lot especially after reports City will break £700m turnover

Chelsea again giving out 8 year deals yesterday before the new 5 year deal only kicked in today, what they have done & still doing + selling made up prices to Saudi teams for players is exactly what the Prrmier League should be investigating not something supposed to happen back in 2011 or some bullshit YouTube video

Sell Mahrez, Laporte & Phillips then go & smash £300m on Gvardiol, Veiga, Coman, FDJ
Bring back Fernandinio & 1 other for coach

Really don’t get this objection to the 8 year deals, I can see the advantage to Chelsea of them and numerous disadvantages.

If they choose to do it, then why change the rules just because some clubs say we have always done it this way.

People should be allowed to run their business as they wish and just by Chelsea going first, highlights and gives the opportunity to other clubs.

Specifically clubs who want to spend a lot very quickly to get in top 4.

That change is just another one designed to stop short term investment.

 

[Sir peace frog]

bare with me.

on the ukraine v russian thread there is a picture of a map , on the map is a town called bakhmut , the russians did everything to capture bakhmut and it is symbolised as a shark surrounding bakhmut, however with the focus by the russians to capture bakhmut what the ukrainians did was encircle the russian shark


this is whats happening to the old g14 clubs, they are that focused on killing city and any other team wanting to invest that they are getting themselves encircled with their own rules, we are seeing "the biggest club in the world) limited this year with ffp , the are fucking themselves up whilst we are going along keeping to their new and ever changing rules

thanks @SPIDERBOY

 

[give it to gordon]

Those der spiegel articles and leaked emails. Once they were out, Uefa reacted by opening their investigation. As soon as they did, the PL opened their own investigation as well.

I honestly thought once CAS closed that episode, the PL would follow suit and use that. It would have been quite easy for them to close it out and claim, consistent with the CAS findings, they conclude the same.

But they didn't, they took another 2.5 years, investigating books right back to 2009 before even uefa's ffp came about. Which is why I don't buy this they are only doung it to appease pressure. I'm sure there IS pressure, and they are trying to appease it. But if that was all, they could have fallen in line with the CAS findings and closed it and still been able to say they tried.

Re doing it in reverse as you mention, I don't think pressure alone is enough. There has to be a big enough public thing to make them have to be seen to act. I.e You can't just request they look into a club for a laugh. Unfortunately, ours was thatnder spiegel leaks which clained to have actual evidence of wrongdoing and put it out in public.

I find it hard to believe that both UEFA and the pl took this action on stolen, cut and paste emails.
Like you say once CAS cleared City common sense would say the pl would drop the charges.

So if I am correct, if de Spiegel did the same cut and paste on stole stolen emails from say liverpool and utd. Both clubs would be interested as hard as City, including its bank in the Carmen Islands.

But as both utd and liverpool vetted the pl chairman I guess they wouldnt.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I don't think there's any doubt on that, the timing and sheer amount of regurgitated crap is telling and will continue as long as the window is open. They're desperately hoping it will put doubt into players heads.

The poison is coming from our commercial rivals and some dishonest people in the media are happy to play along. It’s a deflection tactic from United to take attention away from their shambolic sell off.

 

[Centurions]

Pretty certain the dick who told you is incorrect fella. I don’t believe PL don’t have the powers to sanction a transfer ban.

That would fall under FIFA’s remit & as far as I’m aware. Fifa aren’t involved in this process, so I really don’t see how a transfer ban is a possibility?

On top of that, the only teams which have previously been given a transfer ban, have been banned for transfer irregularities, which I don’t think any of our 115 charges relate to

The PL do have the ability to ask FIFA to back a worldwide transfer ban I think, not that that is going to happen mind.

 

[Sir peace frog]

The poison is coming from our commercial rivals and some dishonest people in the media are happy to play along. It’s a deflection tactic from United to take attention away from their shambolic sell off.

about the sell off, united's stocks are supposedly worth twice as much now than before the "takeover" lots of people are making a killing(i'm sure the glazers are)so i reckon this "takeover" saga will go on for a bit longer

 

[Coatigan]

I find it hard to believe that both UEFA and the pl took this action on stolen, cut and paste emails.
Like you say once CAS cleared City common sense would say the pl would drop the charges.

So if I am correct, if de Spiegel did the same cut and paste on stole stolen emails from say liverpool and utd. Both clubs would be interested as hard as City, including its bank in the Carmen Islands.

But as both utd and liverpool vetted the pl chairman I guess they wouldnt.

The first sentence, they did, that is a matter of fact. Both the statements when openign the investigation said so. Agree, common sense would have seen the PL come to the same conclusion once the cas verdict went public.

I don't remember any accusations on other PL clubs in der Spiegel or if there were certsinly not anywhere as big.

I am not really sure what point you are trying to make though. It would take something big and public to urge uefa or the PL to investigate other clubs.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Hahaha, this all over!

 

[give it to gordon]

The first sentence, they did, that is a matter of fact. Both the statements when openign the investigation said so. Agree, common sense would have seen the PL come to the same conclusion once the cas verdict went public.

I don't remember any accusations on other PL clubs in der Spiegel or if there were certsinly not anywhere as big.

I am not really sure what point you are trying to make though. It would take something big and public to urge uefa or the PL to investigate other clubs.

I thought der Spiegel had stolen 100 of thousands of emails from clubs all around Europe, yet the only choose to cut and paste the City ones. Why ?

Its clearly a witchhunt

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

The PL do have the ability to ask FIFA to back a worldwide transfer ban I think, not that that is going to happen mind.

Everton have their hearing in October, so potentially that could be a guide to what shit they could throw at City. It’s interesting there is still no hearing pencilled in for us when they are moving forward with Everton who they charged a month later. What is the hold up if they think they have a case against City? Why do they have to appoint an independent panel to adjudicate on their charges in accordance to their rule book?

 

[give it to gordon]

Creaky even getting these adverts now on bluemoon lol

 

[Coatigan]

I thought der Spiegel had stolen 100 of thousands of emails from clubs all around Europe, yet the only choose to cut and paste the City ones. Why ?

Its clearly a witchhunt

I see. Yeah of course it is, I get you now.

Not sarcasm btw.

 

[SilverFox2]

And City apparently won’t even accept that deal.
The ‘taking a pinch’ compromise thing still apparently hurts our owner’s sense of honour and City are likely to appeal even that
We’re finally on the offensive now apparently

Let's hope it continues we seem to win things when we have our backs to the wall.

 

[Sk@mcfc]

What I’m hearing from a dick who tbf had been wrong a lot but tbf who got CAS verdict 100%
We’re getting done again on the non co-operation issue. The equivalent of resisting arrest from a copper who is trying to fit you up for a murder you didn’t commit
But they HAVE to do us for something as a political sop
Pretty much everything else has been dismissed and destroyed
A fine that won’t touch the sides and a one window transfer ban. With another window ban suspended

Probably the result the prem bastards knew they could get all along as well just months and months of our name being dragged through shit while winning the lot , whenever treble gets mentioned on tele or radio the very next thing out of there mouth is the charges hanging over us , even rival fans it’s the same shit mentioned I just laugh and say I know it’s great being CITY never a dull day and that winds the fuckers up
Cunts the lot of them

 

[halfcenturyup]

So the one payment that we freely acknowledge was originally paid by Mansour is now being challenged on the grounds that it was paid by someone else? They need to get their story straight

That's right. Some guy called Mohammed. Shouldn't be too difficult to track down in the UAE.

 

[remember arthur mann]

You could out-Urquhart Sir Francis Urquhart, Damocles..!

 

[CatMan]

That's right. Some guy called Mohammed. Shouldn't be too difficult to track down in the UAE.

That made me laugh!

 

[halfcenturyup]

It really isn't. It is still 115 or (whatever the big number is) charges.

Technically, you can group it all into 1 'charge' if you really want to. People have done that with 5 groups of related charges. But they are all still individual charges.

Fair enough, but there are 115 alleged rule breaches. We don't know what the actual issues are that led to these breaches. I think people are using breaches to describe the 115, and charges to describe the 5 or 6 underlying issues.

 

[tonea2003]

£300m in prize money
€70m new sleeve deal
£150m sales
£ money still owed

Go & spend the fucking lot especially after reports City will break £700m turnover

Chelsea again giving out 8 year deals yesterday before the new 5 year deal only kicked in today, what they have done & still doing + selling made up prices to Saudi teams for players is exactly what the Prrmier League should be investigating not something supposed to happen back in 2011 or some bullshit YouTube video

Sell Mahrez, Laporte & Phillips then go & smash £300m on Gvardiol, Veiga, Coman, FDJ
Bring back Fernandinio & 1 other for coach

you can give the length of deal you want, but what will change is the length of time you can spread payment over