PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

KS55 said:
Bluemoon University Manchester has issued a study of tribalism called ‘Tribalism International Trends Study. For a full report Google: Bums and Tits.
Best use private surfing.
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I've read it very nice.
There was also another study from a place called "College University North Trafford"
 
Tolmie scores said:
Directors being led by social meeja FFS no wonder our country is fked!! You at least expect some critical, objective analysis from people who's decisions affect workers mortgages etc! Thats a fenuine worry.
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Football is totally and utterly tribal. Coherent thought, logic and natural justice is a poor second to irrational bias and prejudice.
 
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Plays By Sense Of Smell said:
Everton and scum fans at work asked me what I thought about the fact that Everton received such a harsh sentence.
Said I care very little as it doesn't really concern me.

Of course they were staggered and vouldn't believe the fact that I believed it was a completely different case, so had little relevance for me, especially as Everton had openly admitted to their charges, and ours hadn't been proven yet.
Wholly different case.

Qualified it with a big 'IF' we were found guilty, I might be more interested, but until that time, I trust in the evidence I have seen so far. Which is not only our Chairman dismissing it all as being baseless thanks to 'irrefutable proof', but having seen the same type of charade played out with UEFA.

Telling me to takenl of my blue-tinted specs for a moment, they responded with
'They can't all.be baseless...115 of them'

- Why not? And similarly, what if they are? You can't know yet, so for me no point wasting any more time worrying about it.

'But...etc. etc.'
Seemed to offend them in some way that I really didn't give much of a shit.

I understand that 'thinking slowly' isn't really for people who aren't deeply involved or interested in a subject, but the blinkered inability to see an objective viewpoint does worry me in people who are supposed to be directors...
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No point trying to have the conversation.

Similar convo with my mate, a regional manager of a worldwide company , high salary, intelligent man, making very important decisions daily;

Me: im confident we will be found not guilty like last time.

Him: not guilty? Guilty. You got fined £10m. You were guilty.

Me: no, we were fined because we refused to cooperate with uefa after we found out they were leaking info. CAS found us not guilty and cleared us

Him: (after a 10 second pause ) ….. bull shit
 
Plays By Sense Of Smell said:
Everton and scum fans at work asked me what I thought about the fact that Everton received such a harsh sentence.
Said I care very little as it doesn't really concern me.

Of course they were staggered and vouldn't believe the fact that I believed it was a completely different case, so had little relevance for me, especially as Everton had openly admitted to their charges, and ours hadn't been proven yet.
Wholly different case.

Qualified it with a big 'IF' we were found guilty, I might be more interested, but until that time, I trust in the evidence I have seen so far. Which is not only our Chairman dismissing it all as being baseless thanks to 'irrefutable proof', but having seen the same type of charade played out with UEFA.

Telling me to takenl of my blue-tinted specs for a moment, they responded with
'They can't all.be baseless...115 of them'

- Why not? And similarly, what if they are? You can't know yet, so for me no point wasting any more time worrying about it.

'But...etc. etc.'
Seemed to offend them in some way that I really didn't give much of a shit.

I understand that 'thinking slowly' isn't really for people who aren't deeply involved or interested in a subject, but the blinkered inability to see an objective viewpoint does worry me in people who are supposed to be directors...
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I wont discuss City in any way with cunts who haven't put their listening ears on, I have no appeasement in me all I have is a big FUCK YOU attitude because no matter what you say it all comes down to one thing..

Jealousy.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
No point trying to have the conversation.

Similar convo with my mate, a regional manager of a worldwide company , high salary, intelligent man, making very important decisions daily;

Me: im confident we will be found not guilty like last time.

Him: not guilty? Guilty. You got fined £10m. You were guilty.

Me: no, we were fined because we refused to cooperate with uefa after we found out they were leaking info. CAS found us not guilty and cleared us

Him: (after a 10 second pause ) ….. bull shit
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Me:( immediately)....shut it you daft red ****
 
I'd argue that City have been used as a sportswashing tool, and we've all seen that sportswashing up close.

I'm of course talking about the short ownership of Thaksin Shiniwatra, whose main aim by owning us was to build his own personal and political reputation via the means of owning an English football club and institution. Spending big money (which of course it turned out he didn't have or was frozen) on players and an internationally reputed manager, putting out advertisements about Thailand, messages about the Thai Royal Family on the scoreboards every week, organising a free nosebag in Albert Square...all there to promote his personal and political influence and wash away the corruption/difficulties in which he originally left Thailand.

That was proper attempt to influence public opinion via a football club. UAE are just playing at it.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
No point trying to have the conversation.

Similar convo with my mate, a regional manager of a worldwide company , high salary, intelligent man, making very important decisions daily;

Me: im confident we will be found not guilty like last time.

Him: not guilty? Guilty. You got fined £10m. You were guilty.

Me: no, we were fined because we refused to cooperate with uefa after we found out they were leaking info. CAS found us not guilty and cleared us

Him: (after a 10 second pause ) ….. bull shit
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Here’s the leap of faith these dimwits need to take to believe City are guilty, that Shiekh Mansour who is part of the forth largest sovereign wealth funds on the planet (worth $853 billion). Has been colluding with the likes of Nike, Nissan, Nexen Tire, Etihad Airways, Etisalat, Aabar, Jaguar, Wix, Micheal Page Recruitment, The Chinese Government, Silverlake and our accounts auditors Deloitte to name a few of City’s partners. Have all been in on it and in cahoots for nearly a decade to mislead the Premier League.

If they land it it will be the biggest scandal in U.K. companies history and rightfully some people could go to jail for it. However the accusations are so fanciful, wide sweeping and over such a long period of time, The Premier League are probably seriously regretting the pathway they have taken. If they’d looked at maybe 3 years maybe they could have landed something but by going for nearly a decade it’s plain stupidity from them.

Why don’t opposition fans know this? When it all goes pear shaped and gets chucked in the bin with a non cooperation fine they can then brand us some cheats some more.
 
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Noticed Etihad have a lot of promotional content around their 20th anniversary. City celebrated 20 years at the COMS this year too funnily enough. Some interesting points brought up that I didn't know here:

Twenty years of Etihad: The UAE's unifying national airline
Founded by Sheikh Ahmed bin Saif, the name of the airline is derived from the Arabic word for unity, representing the union of the country’s seven emirates.

Prior to the establishment of Etihad, Abu Dhabi was one of the owners of Gulf Air, along with Qatar, Bahrain and Oman. The emirate withdrew from the airline in 2005 to focus on Etihad Airways.
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So it was always intended to be more than just the airline of Abu Dhabi.

A timeline and brief discussion about the growth here:
Etihad Airways at 20: Two decades of growth for the UAE’s national carrier
In the past two decades, the airline has evolved into a global aviation leader, more than quadrupling its original 1,761-strong workforce to more than 9,250 employees as of September 2023 and boosting its aircraft fleet from just two in its early stages to a total of 79.
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Bluesince1979 said:
No point trying to have the conversation.

Similar convo with my mate, a regional manager of a worldwide company , high salary, intelligent man, making very important decisions daily;

Me: im confident we will be found not guilty like last time.

Him: not guilty? Guilty. You got fined £10m. You were guilty.

Me: no, we were fined because we refused to cooperate with uefa after we found out they were leaking info. CAS found us not guilty and cleared us

Him: (after a 10 second pause ) ….. bull shit
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I think when anyone pauses for 10 seconds to consider their response, and all they can come up with is ‘bull shit’, tells you everything about the person.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
No point trying to have the conversation.

Similar convo with my mate, a regional manager of a worldwide company , high salary, intelligent man, making very important decisions daily;

Me: im confident we will be found not guilty like last time.

Him: not guilty? Guilty. You got fined £10m. You were guilty.

Me: no, we were fined because we refused to cooperate with uefa after we found out they were leaking info. CAS found us not guilty and cleared us

Him: (after a 10 second pause ) ….. bull shit
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Had the same experience numerous times with friends since this latest farrago began.

The old saying 'You can lead a horse to water..' comes to mind when dealing with yer average footy fan..
 
jockblue said:
I'd argue that City have been used as a sportswashing tool, and we've all seen that sportswashing up close.

I'm of course talking about the short ownership of Thaksin Shiniwatra, whose main aim by owning us was to build his own personal and political reputation via the means of owning an English football club and institution. Spending big money (which of course it turned out he didn't have or was frozen) on players and an internationally reputed manager, putting out advertisements about Thailand, messages about the Thai Royal Family on the scoreboards every week, organising a free nosebag in Albert Square...all there to promote his personal and political influence and wash away the corruption/difficulties in which he originally left Thailand.

That was proper attempt to influence public opinion via a football club. UAE are just playing at it.
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Yeah but we weren't pissing on the red arses chips in those days so everyone was ok with it.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Here’s the leap of faith these dimwits need to take to believe City are guilty, that Shiekh Mansour who is part of the forth largest sovereign wealth funds on the planet (worth $853 billion). Has been colluding with the likes of Nike, Nissan, Nexen Tire, Etihad Airways, Etisalat, Aabar, Jaguar, Wix, Micheal Page Recruitment, The Chinese Government, Silverlake and our accounts auditors Deloitte to name a few of City’s partners. Have all been in on it and in cahoots for nearly a decade to mislead the Premier League.

If they land it it will be the biggest scandal in U.K. companies history and rightfully some people could go to jail for it. However the accusations are so fanciful, wide sweeping and over such a long period of time, Premier League are probably seriously regretting the pathway they have taken. If they’d look at maybe 3 years maybe they could have landed something but by going for nearly a decade it’s plain stupidity from them.

Why don’t opposition fans know this? When it all goes pear shape and gets chucked in the bin with a non cooperation fine they can then brand us some cheats some more.
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Re your second paragraph. I think you are right in terms of them managing to get any charges home. But if part of the rationale for the charges was to smear the club, tarnish our achievements in the eyes of the world and appease the cartel clubs and their sheep, it has been pretty effective.
 
johnevans said:
Had the same experience numerous times with friends since this latest farrago began.

The old saying 'You can lead a horse to water..' comes to mind when dealing with yer average footy fan..
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One thing city could do is push back a bit by getting positive little snippets say of the CAS judgement out there e.g. the emails were doctored the sponsorship money was all paid , the time barred points were cleared anyway.
The reports never get past general references to charges probably mostly due to it being easier to write but means it's just constant city cheats narrative without actually saying anything specific that can be refuted.
 
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