PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[invisibleandalone]

Reading that thread last night..99% of them havent got a fucking clue what’s happening.
Loads giving up on football if (when) we are found not guilty as well!
Oh well nevermind lol

They might as well give up football, their team has.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Is the cartel finally fucked? They’ve done something the rags don’t like

Ratcliffe must know the rags need a huge rebuild, also known as spending your way out of trouble. These rules have probably made that much more difficult depending on the multiplier.

It's almost surreal that the club now find themselves as allies with the rags on this, given what's gone before.

 

[East Level 2]

Just one more thought. Won’t this just drive the “big“ clubs in the premier league to look at a European Super League again ?

The more the PL demonstrate their incompetence the more I'd welcome the ESL provided it was set up to include the best current teams (no pandering to money, no pandering to history and no fucking Spurs or rags). It would also have to include relegation which was missing from the original format, however that might be a stumbling block as UEFA may forbid associate leagues interacting with a breakaway league.
On the subject of the PL: I'm still amazed Richard Masters got such an easy ride when he presented the title to us last season. I wasn't expecting mass booing as Alex Williams accompanied him to the podium, but a rousing chorus of "Richard Masters, is a wanker, is a wanker" would have gone down a treat.

 

[eastmanc]

Why the fuck are we worried about all this bollocks?

We're getting relegated remember, all these media outlets and click bait journalists and fans from the red mardarse clubs keep reminding us we're going down with a minus 200 points deduction.

I'm not remotely interested in the new rules.

Good point.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

it will be 4.5 to 5 as that's what's been said it will be. it will be easy to pass at that level as virtually 16 clubs are unaffected by it and actively want a lower number. Anyone thinking it will be 6+ is in cloud cuckoo land

You could be right but, logically, if current and future stars are attracted to clubs outside the PL, if Harland, Rodri and Foden go to Madrid, Saka and Rice go to Paris, Van Dick and Arnold go to Barca etc, the TV money will soon start to go down and that multiplier will be a multiple of less and less.
As for improving facilities or even building a new ground, why bother?
English success in Europe will diminish year on year and the PL will go the way of the championship.
That might be what the ultimate aim is but it’ll come as a bit of a surprise to a few and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if a few owners decide to cash in sooner rather than later.

 

[Silva61]

It’s all so amateurish & clearly another attempt to stop us. We make more than any other team so they can only stop us by linking spending to the bottom clubs’ income rather than our own!! Just unbelievable

As I understand its the bottom clubs broadcasting income it's tethered to, so who controls that.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

You could be right but, logically, if current and future stars are attracted to clubs outside the PL, if Harland, Rodri and Foden go to Madrid, Saka and Rice go to Paris, Van Dick and Arnold go to Barca etc, the TV money will soon start to go down and that multiplier will be a multiple of less and less.
As for improving facilities or even building a new ground, why bother?
English success in Europe will diminish year on year and the PL will go the way of the championship.
That might be what the ultimate aim is but it’ll come as a bit of a surprise to a few and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if a few owners decide to cash in sooner rather than later.

To be honest I think the top clubs should fuck it off and just go down a Super league route. I’m not sure why everyone was so up in arms about that. Why does everything have to stay the same as it always has been?

 

[citytill1die84]

Isn't there a thread about wage cap?

Has absolutely nothing to do with the charges.

 

[HelloCity]

If you have bought into the fucking insane 'City are just buying players to stockpile them' argument, what are you even doing here? I have a perfect TV show for you, but just remember, Bert and Ernie are not necessarily just roommates.

Defo a rag or dipper.

 

[Silva61]

Really unbelievable. Trouble is, it helps the majority of clubs to compete with us. But as already mentioned, if bonuses are included, if a club reaches end of season finals which attract bonuses, how is a club expected to plan that far ahead

Once we're dragged back down to their levels they'll change the fuckin rules again.

 

[cheekybids]

Was chatting to a Forest fan yesterday who said something along the lines of "the sooner you and the other 5 just fuck off and form the Super League, the better".

Should of said we did the premier league & just lately they’ve let has has beens like yourselves in ;)

 

[HolisticJim]

You could be right but, logically, if current and future stars are attracted to clubs outside the PL, if Harland, Rodri and Foden go to Madrid, Saka and Rice go to Paris, Van Dick and Arnold go to Barca etc, the TV money will soon start to go down and that multiplier will be a multiple of less and less.
As for improving facilities or even building a new ground, why bother?
English success in Europe will diminish year on year and the PL will go the way of the championship.
That might be what the ultimate aim is but it’ll come as a bit of a surprise to a few and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if a few owners decide to cash in sooner rather than later.

This. Exactly this. Why the PL would want to restrict investment into its own league is beyond me.
Why the government would allow the restriction of taxation through expenditure is beyond me.

The whole thing is just killing your own competitive advantage. Utter madness.

It's turkeys voting for Xmas.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Hmmm. Which media outlet do you work for, I wonder.

Think he may have been influenced by that idiot Rory from bbc radio.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Good. If it brings the likes of West Ham, Everton and Leeds etc closer to us and the rest of the established ‘top 6’ and gives them a decent chance of success, I’m all for it.

The next coach will have to utilise the academy rather than stockpiling Nunes, Doku and even Grealish-types, and the new sporting director will have to find some more Harts, Kompanys and Zabaletas.

That's a strange take from a City fan? It will also bring Arsenal and Liverpool closer to us if we need to make cut backs, is that good news?

 

[johnevans]

This. Exactly this. Why the PL would want to restrict investment into its own league is beyond me.
Why the government would allow the restriction of taxation through expenditure is beyond me.

The whole thing is just killing your own competitive advantage. Utter madness.

It's turkeys voting for Xmas.

'Turkeys voting for Christmas'?

True. The Premier League and its member clubs have a bit of a history for doing this.

'Gobble, gobble..'

 

[Ducado]

Was chatting to a Forest fan yesterday who said something along the lines of "the sooner you and the other 5 just fuck off and form the Super League, the better".

The sad truth is there’s no money in say Bournemouth vs Forest so if the top 5 did just fuck off, the rest would just wither on the vine

 

[slbsn]

Well most can see this process for what it is. We could've had terms of agreement to ensure we washed up our tea mugs after use at the Etihad. Technically it's an agreement between two parties, but I'd love them to take us to a civil court on this basis.

Not washing up our tea mugs maybe against the PL's "rules", but it's not illegal in UK Law. This is the crucial point being overlooked.

You can worry yourself to death if you choose to, but I trust in City & the club believe they have irrefutable evidence to prove we're not in breach of the PL's private members club "rules".

According to reports, we've issued warnings to several people spinning the "charges" "case" "legal" & "guilty" narrative. This is where City stand, & I stand & agree with our club 100%. It's a pile of bullshit designed to halt our progress by any means necessary.

But you seem to have fundamentally misunderstood the situation - the alleged breaches are breaches of rules but they would also be breaches of various laws if proven - serious breaches. Put criminal law to one side (although they could also be breaches of the Fraud Act etc if ever charged and proven), there would be equivalent civil laws relating to almost every breach aside from the charges relating to cooperation with the PL.

In effect, City themselves said this at CAS and will have said it again to the PL.

But fortunately the charges are not of dirty tea mugs because the actual charges require far more cogent evidence and are, therefore, far harder to prove.

So I'm not sure it is worth others following your logic on this particular matter even if you are right in your support of the club.

PS City won't have issued any warnings about any of those words (to be honest, I doubt they have written to anyone in the media recently on this stuff). They are "charges", it is a "case", it is "legal" and if the IC finds against City whether people say "guilty" or that the charges are "proven" is semantics.

 

[eastmanc]

4.5x would be a disaster for City. We'd have to make significant savings on what we spend now.

In theory the club could make well over £100M profit and fail the rules.

Like I said before the Premeir League are desperate to fuck us up, but in doing so they are going to cause irreparable damage to the top flight football in England.

 

[John Wayne]

This. Exactly this. Why the PL would want to restrict investment into its own league is beyond me.
Why the government would allow the restriction of taxation through expenditure is beyond me.

The whole thing is just killing your own competitive advantage. Utter madness.

It's turkeys voting for Xmas.

City Derangement Syndrome (CDS for short) overpowers logic and rationality. PSR actually worked as they had planned it to do so, but it made martyrs out of badly run clubs who failed it and didn't affect the clubs for which it was intended (i.e. us). Now we have another scheme, but the cracks in the establishment are clear with United not voting with the usual bloc. English football is slowly beginning to cannibalise itself.

 

[GortonBlue62]

Isn't there a thread about wage cap?

Has absolutely nothing to do with the charges.

But it's more pertinent than Irish reunification or Gaelic fucking football, so I suppose we should be grateful for that.