PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[jim tolmies perm]

Are you Hylda Baker in disguise?

And you say that without fear of contraception...

 

[burning blue soul]

Fair. 'This proves we have been cleared,' is not 'cautiously' positive though. People overreacting to me pointing that out and the pile-on thereafter is not 'you do you' either.

I maybe got defensive in the volume of responses, but it is all good. I've said and clarified what I had to for anyone willing to read beyond their own take. It has been exhausted, and is hardly worth it.

We have all been through the mincer and all we want now is for this whole debacle to be put to bed.
Hope is raised for the 1st time in a long time. Some will run a little too enthusiastically with what's been purported and some more measured.
But we all want the same outcome.
A cleared club is also, in effect, a cleared fan base. We are the tubthumpers that face the real music from friends and rivals and must defend on the hope that what we have been told is true.
To be doing this for so long can fray even the strongest nerves. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the fans have mild ptsd after this is finished. It really is that traumatic.
TH's reports are like water to the starving man.
Anyway, I've waffled on and mixed way too many metaphors in my last 2 posts, so I'm gonna make like a tree, and get the hell out of here now :)

 

[ganganvince]

We have all been through the mincer and all we want now is for this whole debacle to be put to bed.
Hope is raised for the 1st time in a long time. Some will run a little too enthusiastically with what's been purported and some more measured.
But we all want the same outcome.
A cleared club is also, in effect, a cleared fan base. We are the tubthumpers that face the real music from friends and rivals and must defend on the hope that what we have been told is true.
To be doing this for so long can fray even the strongest nerves. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the fans have mild ptsd after this is finished. It really is that traumatic.
TH's reports are like water to the starving man.
Anyway, I've waffled on and mixed way too many metaphors in my last 2 posts, so I'm gonna make like a tree, and get the hell out of here now :)

Will we ever be cleared though you only after look at Hillsborough to see a legal ruling doesn't necessarily change the opinion of many.

 

[eastmanc]

And you say that without fear of contraception...

Put a bit ham on that watch.:-)

 

[oldius]

Personally, I believe anything positive that anyone says about us and I dismiss anything negative. I therefore believe that we have sent legal letters. I believe that those who have been sullying our name for years are now silenced and I believe that will will completely clear our name. In all matters City, my objectivity rings out far and wide, from Claremont Road to Kippax Street.

 

[Chris in London]

So your vigourously agreeing with me. :-D
If the attempt to show fraud (criminal law) is not proven than most of it is not proven.

In your last post you said fraud could be established but due to the age of the charges we would escape actually being punished.

All I was saying was that this simply isn’t an option

 

[burning blue soul]

Will we ever be cleared though you only after look at Hillsborough to see a legal ruling doesn't necessarily change the opinion of many.

At least we could defend from a position of strength.

 

[bluemanchester]

I understand the rules and take your point but a penalty given for a foul committed after the forward has completed his play cannot be right in logic. Perhaps in those situations an indirect free kick would be appropriate. Minus you VAR would probably cock that up too

I thought the Wolves player put Guardiol off his shot at the time, which if it happened anywhere else on the pitch would be a foul, and a booking if the player wore sky blue. I will look at it again sometime. Now lets have a discussion whether the push on Ake just before half time should have been a penalty. I thought it should and expected the ref to start the second half with a penalty to us, like united that time. Some fecking hope;-)

 

[Paladin]

I understand the rules and take your point but a penalty given for a foul committed after the forward has completed his play cannot be right in logic. Perhaps in those situations an indirect free kick would be appropriate. Minus you VAR would probably cock that up too

Never heard of off the ball?

I’ve been playing and watching football since 1975. I think I’ve seen enough to know the rules.

You clearly don't understand the rules if you think an indirect free kick should be awarded for a penal offence (foul in this instance) if the offence occurs off the ball.

For example, a scenario where Ederson approaches an injured opponent in City's penalty area whilst City have the ball in the opponent's penalty area. Ederson then deliberately kicks the injured opponent, whilst the ball in still in play, just before Foden shoots and scores a goal. The correct decision is to send Ederson off and award a penalty against City.

Edit. Sorry to have to explain the Laws of the Game in this thread.

 

[JewelZee]

Does anyone think the PL will still go ahead with the case if the rumours are true just to save some face and to give the impression the PL tried to charge City with the 115 allegations rather than just giving up and trying to agree a deal with City in private? UEFA tried again and lost at CAS. There are numerous instances of this happening with the Police, the CPS, newspapers and other organisations that knew they were wrong and wouldn’t win the case, but they still went ahead with the case and lost.

It's not a "case". The independent panel reviewed the Prem's submission and basically told them "Fugget About It! What are they going to go forward with? They're sitting there with their dick's in their hands....