PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Centurions]

You're absolutely correct of course, but who told the applicant of the FOI, to request those particular correspondence?

Why not Israeli - Foreign office or USA - foreign office, surely more news worthy atm. Who told them to apply and why?

(I love a good conspiracy theory )

Not sure if serious?

 

[Asa's left peg]

Not sure if serious?

Yeah, as serious as you can be about this bollocks. I suppose it depends on the parameters of the request. 'Can we see all of the correspondence between both parties for the last 12 months' or ' the last meeting/correspondence'

They knew what they were looking for. I have never made an application for an FOI, but why would you?

Happy to be schooled.

 

[Bobby Taylor's Pub Team]

Yeah, as serious as you can be about this bollocks. I suppose it depends on the parameters of the request. 'Can we see all of the correspondence between both parties for the last 12 months' or ' the last meeting/correspondence'

They knew what they were looking for. I have never made an application for an FOI, but why would you?

Happy to be schooled.

You don’t apply for an FOI. You make it sound like you need to fill in a special form, but you can just ask someone for information. Many people doing FOI requests don’t even know that’s what they’re doing, but the requested party categorises it as such.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Loans for Infrastructure are no different to a mortgage imo. You get one based on income & credit worthiness, adjustable by deposit size.

Imagine Ipswich Town applying for a £1.5bn commercial loan to build a 150000 capacity Super stadium, with a retractable roof & rotating pitch. Any sane lender would tell them to go fuck themselves!

HOWEVER, if their owner rocked up with £1.4bn of his own money & gave a personal guarantee by way of a charge against his personal assets of £50m & borrowed the £50m balance on a 25 year deal against the club, most lenders would probably snatch the owner's hand off.

If the owner went belly up, Ipswich Town would only be liable for £50m over 25 years to build this preposterous white elephant, which is easily achievable if they remain in the English Football League & the Premier League.

This way, clubs can dream as big as they like without putting their existences in peril. BUT the total annual servicable debt repayments levied against any club can never exceed ⅓ of their annual turnover. I can see no issues with a football governance proposal along these lines.

I cannot agree with much of what you say here. No-on is suggesting, or has ever suggested that Ipswich Town should build a 150000 capacity Super stadium but clubs have decided to leave stadia which they consider outdated to move to more modern stadia which provide a much better facilities for fans and greater revenues for the club. Our rag neighbours need desperately either to improve OT or to move elsewhere. The cost is significantly greater than 50% of annual turnover, whether the club was Southampton, Leicester or Everton, Spurs and the rags at the other end of the spectrum. Under FFP investment on such projects can be unlimited subject to meeting the interest payments. Clubs seem to have coped well enough with this: Southampton and Brighton have had to be relatively inactive in the transfer market for a time and Spurs fans have their grievances, real or imagined, but the new stadia are a real asset.

What you propose seems to me to act as a deterrent because it takes a very cynical view of football ownership. It is true that we believe that there is a cartel of clubs determined to take money out of the game rather than to invest in it. It is true that clubs such as Stockport have suffered at the hands of unscrupulous owners, but the majority of clubs are owned and run by those trying to do their best for their club in a hostile environment. To insist they take all the risk and pay all the bill is unreasonable and based on a view of owners as fraudsters. Loans and debt are an accepted way of raising capital and spreading the cost.

It is also fair to point out that ownership of football clubs is becoming increasingly complex. Spurs were owned by a tax exile and I believe others are, Liverpool by an American "sports group"/ hedge fund and so on. Demanding guarantees and getting repayment should things go wrong is not something the football authorities would relish.

 

[Asa's left peg]

You don’t apply for an FOI. You make it sound like you need to fill in a special form, but you can just ask someone for information. Many people doing FOI requests don’t even know that’s what they’re doing, but the requested party categorises it as such.

Thanks for the information

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

IF this is the case then the only place these leaked emails can come from is the PL.

Probably just an FOI request to the relevant Govt department. There is nothing secret about this. The Embassy will have just asked to be kept updated by Whitehall. It has no impact on the Judges’ decision. This is just routine stuff Embassies do it all the time no matter how much the media try to distort things. The UK has lots of trade deals which Khaldoon is involved in which have nothing to do with City.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Yeah, as serious as you can be about this bollocks. I suppose it depends on the parameters of the request. 'Can we see all of the correspondence between both parties for the last 12 months' or ' the last meeting/correspondence'

They knew what they were looking for. I have never made an application for an FOI, but why would you?

Happy to be schooled.

Most FOI requests are fishing expeditions by freelance hacks trying to make a few quid. The rest are from pressure groups and lobbyists. You can just send an email. There’s lots of advice how to do it. The only thing that interests me here is the timing. The story is 10 months old and has already been published. Zeigler must have a reason for rehashing it now.

 

[cheekybids]

Replies are hilarious

Wonder why the UK embassy in Dubai was interested & not the UK embassy in Abu Dhabi……

 

[hammocity]

Last Saturday as I walked up Joe mercer way to where the extension is being built. On the fencing around it was a big sign saying “this is just the beginning!” No way any of this smear campaign bollocks is sticking not a chance! Then as I walked past the bell Lee summerbee statue guess who I saw? ………David fucking Pleat!!!! lol

Tbf, he said on SSN (dodgy box) yesterday that it's fantastic what's happening at City's ground. Hes written a book and half the proceeds go to MMD, he referenced the great work done by "Sir" Kevin Sinfield and the late Rob Burrow so he's gone up in my estimation.

 

[dadnlad]

Tbf, he said on SSN (dodgy box) yesterday that it's fantastic what's happening at City's ground. Hes written a book and half the proceeds go to MMD, he referenced the great work done by "Sir" Kevin Sinfield and the late Rob Burrow so he's gone up in my estimation.

whats happening around the ground i bet he come via mayfields and still asks for directions to ground ;)