PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Keeper!]

Great post mate.

People on here are far too sensitive about opposition fans and the media.

We are been talked about because we are relevant and the day they stop talking about us is the day to start worrying.

 

[cheekybids]

Always been amazed at lawyers' ability for creativity (yes, I know the title of the accountancy equivalent is The Accountant, but that is a satirical and hugely sarcastic dig at our perpetual nemeses, The Lawyers. Brilliantly creative).

Btw, I suppose the professional magazine for the press is called The ****?

The ****….. written by cunts for cunts…

 

[manimanc]

The other thing that makes me laugh is that out of the 20 clubs in the league it's only us being accused of fiddling books and lying about figures.
Yeah ok then.
All the other 19 clubs are squeaky clean are they and don't sail close to the waterline?

Yeah ok then, just us.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The other thing that makes me laugh is that out of the 20 clubs in the league it's only us being accused of fiddling books and lying about figures.
Yeah ok then.
All the other 19 clubs are squeaky clean are they and don't sail close to the waterline?

Yeah ok then, just us.

I think it's that the 115 are added to the heinous charge of finishing in the top 4 and winning things that they become more serious. Our spending was as I recall a source of much merriment as we would never be able to "buy success". Now said success has been bought it appears to be a more serious issue.

 

[Tolmie scores]

Yep, it's pretty hopeless even attempting to rationalise with those who've been brainwashed by the red media. The more you trying, the more they think you're just wearing blue tinted glasses.

Even things like Orient fans booing Grealish when he touched the ball, shows just how sheep like football fans are, simply do and say things because other do

I think every smaller club relishes "sticking it to the big man" Tamworth v Spurs!! For e.g. re charges. Shite media driven by what spotty teenagers post as keyboard warriors between jacking off to the latest Taylor Swift video.And because most keyboard warriors are red shirt cartel glory hunters ( who never go to a game) That's what the 'new age' national media is basing their take on..how sad. What a demise!

 

[Centurions]

.. but discussions with UEFA re Etisalat resulted in City agreeing to voluntarily cap the level of the sponsorship with this sponsor - from memory that may have been the case for another minor sponsor too.

Aabar, who are now owned by Mubadala directly.

 

[Cobwebcat]

The other thing that makes me laugh is that out of the 20 clubs in the league it's only us being accused of fiddling books and lying about figures.
Yeah ok then.
All the other 19 clubs are squeaky clean are they and don't sail close to the waterline?

Yeah ok then, just us.

We were hacked though and those emails didn’t look good. I’m surprised the PL are still banging on about them though.

Mind you Masters seems intent on losing all the big names from the PL by forcing players to Saudi. The Villa lad being the latest. It’s even been designed that there is an extra bonus if you sell an Academy player.

How to destroy a World Class product

 

[Centurions]

Start with any City story the BBC allow comments on!
Then try any and all social media.
I think your the none City fans you know are lying to you!

Sorry, but I nearly wet myself laughing at anyone using twatter and, even more so, the HYS section of the BBC site as proof positive of anything, excepting perhaps the fact that people are generally speaking, dumb.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I would resist this view that most 'real people' do not think we are guilty

I have just been on a golf holiday - 16 of us. The clubs supported included Birmingham, Villa, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs

I was just before the cup game - when I had my City shirt on - that the 115 subject came up and I had the full bingo card, but I would summarise the view of these people as a) we are guilty because there are so many charges and b) why is it taking so long compared to Forest, Everton etc.

I spent the next 40 mins putting the CITY case - which I was able to do thanks to this thread

In the end I do not think that I convinced anyone and everybody just moved on to a different subject to save argument

I have had this experience many times in many locations such as pubs in the UK or when holidaying abroad and I am yet to come across a single (non-City fan) person who has a view that we are innocent - or even that we may be

The Cartel/PL driven media campaign has been very effective. People seem amazed/disbelieving when you explain that there are not really 115 different charges

These days I have stopped engaging with most rival fans. It is a waste of energy. My circle of friends is all the better for it.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Yep, it's pretty hopeless even attempting to rationalise with those who've been brainwashed by the red media. The more you try, the more they think you're just wearing blue tinted glasses.

Even things like Orient fans booing Grealish when he touched the ball, shows just how sheep like football fans are, simply do and say things because other do

They also booed KDB when he came on and just before he made fools of them.

 

[blueste41]

Not sure why you expect different?

If the rags were in our position would you genuinely say they were not guilty ? I for one would not and would revel in the possibility of them been found guilty and be giving it royal to their fans about the possibility.

Football is tribal especially in the UK, the facts will come out in the verdict and that's all that matters, not the opinions of opposition fans and pundits trying to cause controversy to further their careers.

I live outside the UK and the press for this tribunal in minimal and the general press/media of our club is hugely positive and respectful.

I would trust and respect the process and the outcome, that's my point really I don't think many, from either side of the fence, will-Lose=Blues stitch up/win=others brown envelopes.

 

[Bantamgaz]

I think every smaller club relishes "sticking it to the big man" Tamworth v Spurs!! For e.g. re charges. Shite media driven by what spotty teenagers post as keyboard warriors between jacking off to the latest Taylor Swift video.And because most keyboard warriors are red shirt cartel glory hunters ( who never go to a game) That's what the 'new age' national media is basing their take on..how sad. What a demise!

I think your everday normal football fan below the PL simply dont care whats going off with you lot .................i can put money on that the people who do turn up for these games wont be seen again until the next BIG game comes along ...........you only have to look at them two bellends with the half and half shirts at yesterdays cup game to see what these type of games tend to attract ..............look at the 5k that magically turned up at the Eithad for the City/ Salford game ???‽? The tinpot bastards could only muster up 200 at our place for a game less than an hour away ............at let me guess all cheating songs ??????
I love the cups but it dont half attract wankers

 

[ArniArason]

People on here are far too sensitive about opposition fans and the media.

We are been talked about because we are relevant and the day they stop talking about us is the day to start worrying.

I get your sentiment but the situation with city is very different from other teams who are/were relevant.

Yes, there is some fan/media coverage (both positive and negative) simply because we have been the best team (similar to the rags and the ABU- Anyone But United years ago), people get frustrated and jealous of successful teams.

That's the normal side of sports psychology. Then there is the 'not so normal' side that only city have been served with. The side that has been shamefully allowed to fester and evolve by the very authorities that should be treating all of its members equally.

What city have faced is a highly organised and successfully orchestrated smear campaign against every aspect of the club, led by a group of clubs who's absolute intention was/is to run us out of the league simply because we came and took the limelight and treasures away from them.

Rather than upping their game on and off the field, they chose to focus all of their efforts on colludiing with the media, hackers and any authorities that would listen to make our name mud.

I struggle to understand how any city fan cannot see this is clear and obvious.

Prime example from the BBC this weekend, who according to the below snippet from their own editorial guidelines, SHOULD be totally and utterly impartial....

"The BBC is committed to achieving due impartiality in all its output. This commitment is fundamental to our reputation, our values and the trust of audiences."

Just listening to their polarised news coverage of this weekend's City and dipper results proves this to be absolute tripe.

City WON against a really well organised Orient side who played out of their skins, we HAD TO field a patchwork quilt of a side made up of youngsters, partially fit players and players who have played very few games.

The dippers LOST against a Plymouth side who were equally as well organised, they CHOSE to play a complete young side to focus on other competitions, or because they assumed it would be enough.

The BBC News Radio coverage of the two results couldn't be any different.

For our game, they led with an interview from their players and manager, they then talked about how great Orient played, how wonderful their goal was, how great their fans were, how we scraped through, the difference in squad costs and the difference in league positions. They didn't make any reference to the fact that our starting line up contained virtually no first team starters, they didn't even mention who scored our goals. If you'd listened cold you'd believe Orient won.

For their game, they briefly mentioned Plymouth, made zero reference to either squad costs or league position differences. They made no reference to how well Plymouth played or how poor the dippers were. What they chose to do was make it VERY clear that they had played a complete youth team and in effect this was a choice by them to lose the game. They interviewed no Plymouth players or coaching staff, choosing instead to let Slot explain that he had chosen to chose all youth players and this was the reason for the defeat.

The general tone of the city peice was very downbeat towards city, whereas the dippers piece just seemed carefully editted to ensurena positive slant. The fact that their proper treble and quadruple chances are gone was never mentioned that once by the way.

If you look and listen, the agenda is there as clear as day.

 

[Keeper!]

Yep, it's pretty hopeless even attempting to rationalise with those who've been brainwashed by the red media. The more you try, the more they think you're just wearing blue tinted glasses.

Even things like Orient fans booing Grealish when he touched the ball, shows just how sheep like football fans are, simply do and say things because other do

FFS Grealish is football's version of the pantomime villain, when he played at Villa he was booed and jeered, he has attitude on the pitch, he's cocky and arrogant and that riles up opposition fans and brings out the best in the player so I am more than happy when he does get booed.

I was watching the last 20 mins of the dippers yesterday, the commentary on that was the usual narrative of the dippers had 250m of players on the pitch, Plymouth's team cost 20 pence, it's just lazy, stereotypical memes.

 

[Keeper!]

I get your sentiment but the situation with city is very different from other teams who are/were relevant.

Yes, there is some fan/media coverage (both positive and negative) simply because we have been the best team (similar to the rags and the ABU- Anyone But United years ago), people get frustrated and jealous of successful teams.

That's the normal side of sports psychology. Then there is the 'not so normal' side that only city have been served with. The side that has been shamefully allowed to fester and evolve by the very authorities that should be treating all of its members equally.

What city have faced is a highly organised and successfully orchestrated smear campaign against every aspect of the club, led by a group of clubs who's absolute intention was/is to run us out of the league simply because we came and took the limelight and treasures away from them.

Rather than upping their game on and off the field, they chose to focus all of their efforts on colludiing with the media, hackers and any authorities that would listen to make our name mud.

I struggle to understand how any city fan cannot see this is clear and obvious.

Prime example from the BBC this weekend, who according to the below snippet from their own editorial guidelines, SHOULD be totally and utterly impartial....

"The BBC is committed to achieving due impartiality in all its output. This commitment is fundamental to our reputation, our values and the trust of audiences."

Just listening to their polarised news coverage of this weekend's City and dipper results proves this to be absolute tripe.

City WON against a really well organised Orient side who played out of their skins, we HAD TO field a patchwork quilt of a side made up of youngsters, partially fit players and players who have played very few games.

The dippers LOST against a Plymouth side who were equally as well organised, they CHOSE to play a complete young side to focus on other competitions, or because they assumed it would be enough.

The BBC News Radio coverage of the two results couldn't be any different.

For our game, they led with an interview from their players and manager, they then talked about how great Orient played, how wonderful their goal was, how great their fans were, how we scraped through, the difference in squad costs and the difference in league positions. They didn't make any reference to the fact that our starting line up contained virtually no first team starters, they didn't even mention who scored our goals. If you'd listened cold you'd believe Orient won.

For their game, they briefly mentioned Plymouth, made zero reference to either squad costs or league position differences. They made no reference to how well Plymouth played or how poor the dippers were. What they chose to do was make it VERY clear that they had played a complete youth team and in effect this was a choice by them to lose the game. They interviewed no Plymouth players or coaching staff, choosing instead to let Slot explain that he had chosen to chose all youth players and this was the reason for the defeat.

The general tone of the city peice was very downbeat towards city, whereas the dippers piece just seemed carefully editted to ensure the fact that their proper treble and quadruple chances are gone (they never mentioned that once by the way).

If you look and listen, the agenda is there as clear as day.

In the UK media it maybe but that's for many reasons , mainly who runs the media and the ethnicity of our owners.

The UK is a rapidly fading power, desperately trying to hold on to the days of the Empire, the fact is we are a broken nation, living on past glories and bitter and twisted at the new wealth and power of the east.

The fact remains we have been charged, the evidence given and we await a verdict, once given let's see and see what the consequences are for all sides.

If as we expect and we are cleared, if the UK media don't change tact, they may well be in for serious implications and rightly so.

 

[blueste41]

I would resist this view that most 'real people' do not think we are guilty

I have just been on a golf holiday - 16 of us. The clubs supported included Birmingham, Villa, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs

I was just before the cup game - when I had my City shirt on - that the 115 subject came up and I had the full bingo card, but I would summarise the view of these people as a) we are guilty because there are so many charges and b) why is it taking so long compared to Forest, Everton etc.

I spent the next 40 mins putting the CITY case - which I was able to do thanks to this thread

In the end I do not think that I convinced anyone and everybody just moved on to a different subject to save argument

I have had this experience many times in many locations such as pubs in the UK or when holidaying abroad and I am yet to come across a single (non-City fan) person who has a view that we are innocent - or even that we may be

The Cartel/PL driven media campaign has been very effective. People seem amazed/disbelieving when you explain that there are not really 115 different charges

This is the kind of experience that led to my 99% think we're guilty comment (probably to high in retrospect). It's fukin exhausting though and even if we face no sanctions it won't end, the narrative will just switch to how we managed to get away with it.

 

[ArniArason]

FFS Grealish is football's version of the pantomime villain, when he played at Villa he was booed and jeered, he has attitude on the pitch, he's cock and arrogant and that riles up opposition fans and brings out the best in the player so I am more than happy when he does get booed.

I was watching the last 20 mins of the dippers yesterday, the commentary on that was the usual narrative of the dippers had 250m of players on the pitch, Plymouth's team cost 20 pence, it's just lazy, stereotypical memes.

Disagree

1. Grealish was not booed at Villa, apart from by local rivals, until the rumour of him coming to us started.

2. How can yesterday's commentary have talked about Liverpool having £250m of players on the pitch when the matchday squad was pretty much all youth players.....

 

[surprisedbygrass]

I would resist this view that most 'real people' do not think we are guilty

I have just been on a golf holiday - 16 of us. The clubs supported included Birmingham, Villa, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs

I was just before the cup game - when I had my City shirt on - that the 115 subject came up and I had the full bingo card, but I would summarise the view of these people as a) we are guilty because there are so many charges and b) why is it taking so long compared to Forest, Everton etc.

I spent the next 40 mins putting the CITY case - which I was able to do thanks to this thread

In the end I do not think that I convinced anyone and everybody just moved on to a different subject to save argument

I have had this experience many times in many locations such as pubs in the UK or when holidaying abroad and I am yet to come across a single (non-City fan) person who has a view that we are innocent - or even that we may be

The Cartel/PL driven media campaign has been very effective. People seem amazed/disbelieving when you explain that there are not really 115 different charges

This .

The PL is , first and foremost, a member led global marketing machine . Set up from the start for this purpose and very good at it . The media are ( nearly ) all on the same gravy train and have no interest in balance or rocking the boat . You could argue the 115 is genius . Most people don't see past that number . Mud sticks .

There must be a PhD in it for someone to go back over the way the original big five founders have evaded financial scrutiny in the media Vs the 115 witch hunt .

Some clubs don't even have to win trophies to resist scrutiny . Only this week there was a piece in The Guardian praising Levy and his financial " wizardry" with not a word about Joe Lewis , last year convicted of insider trading and whose family own Tottenham Hotspur in trust . Nothing either about the main reason Tottenham can turn a profit is the London location of the ground . After all it can't be prize money.....

We have " London weighting" in some wages to reflect the higher cost of living down there , maybe we should have that in reverse in the PL . Tourism weighting. ...

 

[Keeper!]

The ****….. written by cunts for cunts…

The Lawyer written by Lawyers and available to read at 150 pounds an hour, cunts!

 

[Lord Blue]

So first i'll out myself as dumb for using twitter. Although in my defence i only follow about half a dozen people (i have a list setup with only @slbsn, @RealTolmie, @BlueCityBrain, @prestwichblue, @SwissRamble, @mancity, @bluemoon_mcfc ). I'm on bluesky too, but it just doesn't have the momentum

One thing that is abundantly is the difference between people on twitter and people in real life.

People online are filled with vitriol, emboldened by the safety of anonymity. I occasionally get sucked into defending us which usually ends up with having to block someone.

Not all real life people that follow the red cartel see us as guilty, but they sure as damn enjoy the mess we're in.
They'll take the mickey that we're guilty in one breath then admit its a stitch up in the next.

I live close to Crystal Palace these days and mostly i get "so whats going on then". My work colleagues and local friends include too many spurs fans, a number of chelsea fans, palace fans. A few united fans and a few liverpool fans. They all know i can be "triggered" by 115 talk but they don't want me to go on about it so they generally don't. In a serious conversation there's only really one of the liverpool fans and one of the spurs fans than make it obvious they think we're guilty. and even they reckon the rules exist to stitch up.

I'm glad i don't live in north london, manchester or liverpool or i reckon life would be a nightmare.