PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

slbsn said:
Clearly I was talking about the idea there is ongoing settlement discussions/City suing Big 6. But as it happens I don't think the PL Board are focussed on "Civil War" or that there is a general US v City/Newcastle animosity. It is far more nuanced than that.
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It always amazes me that some people seem to think in terms of these claimed groupings as though the league was made up not of 20 self-contained and frankly self-interested entities but instead two blocs, for all the world like the Eastern bloc and the Western bloc during the cold war days.

There are certain issues on which City's interest are akin to Newcastle's. On others, they are not. They have made common cause with United about (for instance, IIRC) the squad cost ratio suggestions, but were on diametrically opposed sides during the APT votes. Villa and Forest take the same view as City where it suits their interests to do so, not when it doesn't. Equally, the idea that every one of the US owned clubs has exactly the same agenda and exactly the some priorities and will therefore vote in exactly the same way on every single issue seems to me to be obvious nonsense.

Likewise all 20 of the clubs in the league.

I sometimes wonder, as an aside, why it was that clubs like Brighton and Brentford took the side of the history clubs on the APT issue, but doubtless they will have had their own reasons for doing so.
 
Chris in London said:
I sometimes wonder, as an aside, why it was that clubs like Brighton and Brentford took the side of the history clubs on the APT issue, but doubtless they will have had their own reasons for doing so.
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A couple of million reasons each, I bet.
 
BAB.DAB said:
Cost who £50m?
Wont be the people who made the decision to go ahead with the charges.
It was posted on here shortly after this thread started that a respected poster had heard that after the charges were brought the premier league offered us a deal.
Cleared of most charges and just fined for non cooperation
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Sorry mate but “it was posted on here” is not really cutting the mustard with me in making any kind of point.
 
Ric said:
I presume our "irrefutable proof" is just the evidence that we presented at CAS (i.e. audited accounts and witness testimony). I doubt there's anything new that is going to significantly shift the dial in public perception. Unless we're booted out of the league and stripped of trophies, then fans of other clubs are going to claim it's a fudge regardless.
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Of course they are. You don't have to leave this forum to find people who, regardless of the inquiries and prosecutions and reports that say it was the police's actions, not Liverpool fans, that caused the deaths of 97 people at Hillsborough, will still maintain the opposite.

Can we really expect other teams' fanbases to have higher standards than our own?
 
Interesting debate on here (for a change).

There's two contrasting views, one that the PL entered into this in an entirely fair-handed, non-judgemental way, without any pressure and solely motivated by the desire to uphold the sanctity of their financial framework. The other group believe this is largely politically motivated and that a cabal of US-owned clubs are collaborating to try to derail us.

Re the former belief, there are also people who believe that there's a man with a beard who lives on a cloud and can bring down plagues of locusts, floods, fire & brimstone and turn people into pillars of salt merely by twitching his nose, or finger, or however he does that sort of thing.

The club, on the other hand, is in the latter camp, and I'll repeat what a senior official told me a while ago. That official was close to the group around our owner and this was said while both UEFA and the PL were investigating us. The exact quote was "We know who's behind this. It's the US-owned clubs, plus there's a geopolitical element".

It also wasn't coincidence that Levy's name got mentioned. It's been said that it was him who rang Masters after the CAS verdict to push him into launching the PL's charges, which they did so hurriedly that they got some of those laughably wrong.

Remember what Khaldoon said about knowing who's saying what about us? I doubt that was bluff.
 
Paladin said:
I think we know that part of the process was full disclosure of documents including emails from both sides - City and the PL. Could it be that certain clubs know that there is damning evidence within the disclosed documents, that would make the position of certain club executives untenable? Could that be a reason for some executives leaving their positions before the announcement?

That said, it appears Levy's departure was planned as far back as the start of this year.
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That’s a good point. Levy and Lewis don’t know the result but know what’s in the emails.
 
Chris in London said:
It always amazes me that some people seem to think in terms of these claimed groupings as though the league was made up not of 20 self-contained and frankly self-interested entities but instead two blocs, for all the world like the Eastern bloc and the Western bloc during the cold war days.

There are certain issues on which City's interest are akin to Newcastle's. On others, they are not. They have made common cause with United about (for instance, IIRC) the squad cost ratio suggestions, but were on diametrically opposed sides during the APT votes. Villa and Forest take the same view as City where it suits their interests to do so, not when it doesn't. Equally, the idea that every one of the US owned clubs has exactly the same agenda and exactly the some priorities and will therefore vote in exactly the same way on every single issue seems to me to be obvious nonsense.

Likewise all 20 of the clubs in the league.

I sometimes wonder, as an aside, why it was that clubs like Brighton and Brentford took the side of the history clubs on the APT issue, but doubtless they will have had their own reasons for doing so.
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The hateful eight were happy to sign a letter demanding we were booted out of Europe even before the CAS Judges had ruled! I am sure they were in the City-hating bloc.
 
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