Another cheap jibe, no surprise from whom. What is stupid and embarrassing is not to recognise that the PL has gone full Tonto on us, our directors are being accused of fraud, our accountants of misconduct and the existence of the club is under direct threat. Any of the substantive charges being upheld would result in its destruction in its current form and planning for that contingency is almost unthinkable. Folk are losing sight of what is at stake here.It's "Stupid", I'm afraid. It's embarrassing to witness.
I hope the clubs and Khaldoons confidence is correct, but the PL would not have spent vast amount of resources and got some of the best Lawyers involved if they thought they thought there was no case to answer to.I accept that they are prepared for any contingency however unlikely and someone at the club may well have indicated that to you privately but their public pronouncements about our total innocence are utterly emphatic and completely unqualified in that respect since 2023. Our chairman has had his integrity shockingly challenged by the PL and he has put his personal reputation is on the line by repeated public assurances we have done nothing wrong.
I believe him and also believe he has known what the final outcome will be since at least the turn of the year.
And there’s a guy works down the chip shop, swears he’s ElvisEven if I had fuck all to do, that would not be my idea of a fun way to pass the time! And if only factual posts, rather than conjecture or guesswork nonsense, or stuff like "my sister's boyfriend's milkman's hairdresser's postman has an ITK know friend and he swears blind yada yada yada", you'd get it down to 3 or 4 pages.
It's not the destination but the friends we make along the way.Getting close to 6,000 pages now (12,000 in old money!!!), you could condense the thread down to maybe a dozen pages if you kept only factual or at least well informed speculative posts. I wonder if @jimharri is busy ;)
Another cheap jibe, no surprise from whom. What is stupid and embarrassing is not to recognise that the PL has gone full Tonto on us, our directors are being accused of fraud, our accountants of misconduct and the existence of the club is under direct threat. Any of the substantive charges being upheld would result in its destruction in its current form and planning for that contingency is almost unthinkable. Folk are losing sight of what is at stake here.
And they are saying some of our sponsors are complicit in all of thisAnother cheap jibe, no surprise from whom. What is stupid and embarrassing is not to recognise that the PL has gone full Tonto on us, our directors are being accused of fraud, our accountants of misconduct and the existence of the club is under direct threat. Any of the substantive charges being upheld would result in its destruction in its current form and planning for that contingency is almost unthinkable. Folk are losing sight of what is at stake here.
Its a signal that he is going on holiday and thats it, absolutely nothing to do with anything else its his last chance to have a break before the next internal break in March 2026 Its something he does when there is an international breakPure speculation obviously, but I wonder whether Pep’s statement that he is going on holiday during the upcoming international break is a soft signal that the decision will drop then? The club will be keen to take him out of the media frenzy which will undoubtedly ensue.
No idea why you are making that point. Stop being silly.Another cheap jibe, no surprise from whom. What is stupid and embarrassing is not to recognise that the PL has gone full Tonto on us, our directors are being accused of fraud, our accountants of misconduct and the existence of the club is under direct threat. Any of the substantive charges being upheld would result in its destruction in its current form and planning for that contingency is almost unthinkable. Folk are losing sight of what is at stake here.
the PL could have condensed the charges in the same way!Getting close to 6,000 pages now (12,000 in old money!!!), you could condense the thread down to maybe a dozen pages if you kept only factual or at least well informed speculative posts. I wonder if @jimharri is busy ;)
But the PL is a members' club, with some members being more influential than others. I don't accept Stefan's view that it's acting with the greatest integrity entirely independently of those members. And those influential members would love to threaten our very existence. The PL CEO was allegedly selected for the role based on his views on our club and how we would deal with us, after others dropped out of the running. Maybe at least some of those dropped out because they didn't like what they were being asked to do.I hope the clubs and Khaldoons confidence is correct, but the PL would not have spent vast amount of resources and got some of the best Lawyers involved if they thought they thought there was no case to answer to.
Good grief read @slbsn post and get a new risk meterAlthough we keep hearing there is nothing out there, my risk meter keeps telling me if they have found us guilty in some aspects. There could be an obvious political issue at play with the UAE.
Although I'm still going with it's not been completed yet.
Like the rest of use we have no idea when it will be released and that includes Lord Pannick and his teamIf it's not a day after the Liverpool game then I really have no idea when it could be released anymore.
No idea - really? Let me help - it isn't silly to question the contention our club is signalling it is prepared for a possible guilty verdict.No idea why you are making that point. Stop being silly.
I don't think we can even assume after that. It can be whenever. Day after Liverpool is the last logical date. Late 2025, int break. After that, it's completely random.Like the rest of use we have no idea when it will be released and that includes Lord Pannick and his team
Assuming that the commission gives two fucks about the football calendar or the implications of the affects of the announcement upon football in general which I somewhat doubtI don't think we can even assume after that. It can be whenever. Day after Liverpool is the last logical date. Late 2025, int break. After that, it's completely random
Apologies. I didn’t realise anyone on here really believed City “welcomed” this whole fiasco. It’s PR not reality. But sure, take it at face value if it comforts you.
I hope the clubs and Khaldoons confidence is correct, but the PL would not have spent vast amount of resources and got some of the best Lawyers involved if they thought they thought there was no case to answer to.
Those last emails published were quite damning taken in isolation. Doesn't mean City went ahead with what was proposed in them and I'm hoping the evidence we provided proved we didn't.
I wouldn't of expected City to have come out with their tail between the legs and provide sombre messages post the charges. They had to be firm to keep stakeholders including fans, sponsors, politicians, Pep etc on the right side. If we are found guilty for any of the serious charges, the implications are severe not just for the club but commercially and politically too.
Possible but unlikely almost a year after the hearing was completed - think both sides know what's coming and the departure of the two cartel attack dogs from the PL rules committee is pretty significant.I don't think anybody is losing sight of it. It's just being realistic regarding a discernable difference in what the club will say publicly and what conversations will be held behind closed doors. They are confident, but the premier league are confident in their case. It's clearly a very complex case despite how confident one side may feel, and it's possible both sides could have came out of the hearing thinking the points they made are the right ones.
In any case the club reaction will have to be led by Khaldoon. Pep has no control over finances and was not even at the club during the period affected by the allegations. He will not be the mouthpiece.Its a signal that he is going on holiday and thats it, absolutely nothing to do with anything else its his last chance to have a break before the next internal break in March 2026 Its something he does when there is an international break
I doubt he will struggle with any media frenzy following the publication of the award, in fact when we are found to be "innocent" he will probably relish it
I accept that they are prepared for any contingency however unlikely and someone at the club may well have indicated that to you privately but their public pronouncements about our total innocence are utterly emphatic and completely unqualified in that respect since 2023. Our chairman has had his integrity shockingly challenged by the PL and he has put his personal reputation is on the line by repeated public assurances we have done nothing wrong.
I believe him and also believe he has known what the final outcome will be since at least the turn of the year.