Player (and manager) threads

Ric said:
We introduced these last season as we felt it would help stop the forum from getting too cluttered and prevent duplicate threads, which was reasonable enough. However, with hindsight I don't think it's really worked as intended.

We now have a situation whereby everything relating to a player is lumped into one topic. It's a bit prosaic and formulaic, and stifles debate. For instance, in the Toure thread recently (just as an example) we had three concurrent debates lumped together in one thread (his agent's comments about Guardiola, the African Player of the Year issue, and his current form), when they all merited separate discussion.

You also sometimes end up with certain posters using these threads just to slag players off, which can be a bit tedious.

We've decided to try and change things so will trial locking those huge threads (including the media bias thread), and people can just start new, more specific topics as and when appropriate.

I know some people think we keep changing things for the sake of it, but obviously we're not trying to piss people off. We're just constantly trying to find ways to improve the forum, and if it doesn't work then we'll happily reassess it.

Any feedback, as always, welcomed.

Cheers,
Ric
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Thanks to RIC - seems a sensible move. Will we in the future get our chance to discuss the blatant conspiracy/agenda/bias against our club or is there a power on the forum even mightier than Ric (FS) that will continue to refuse blues that right
 
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AntonDonJuan said:
How am i supposed to get my guardiola fix now?! It was the only thread i bothered reading!
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Ha, I'm sure there'll be a new Guardiola thread as soon as there's any news or updates. Or feel free to start a new one is there's anything specific about Guardiola you wish to discuss!
 
Ric said:
Ha, I'm sure there'll be a new Guardiola thread as soon as there's any news or updates. Or feel free to start a new one is there's anything specific about Guardiola you wish to discuss!
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Can i discuss him through the medium of cat gifs ?
 
mcfc1632 said:
Thanks to RIC - seems a sensible move. Will we in the future get our chance to discuss the blatant conspiracy/agenda/bias against our club or is there a power on the forum even mightier than Ric (FS) that will continue to refuse blues that right
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If there's a particular bit of media bias that you take exception to then start a thread.

The last thread, like the player ones, had become a bit of a jumbled mess.

You had legitimate grievances, like the Sky Sports panel's ridiculous coverage of the Everton game last Wednesday, lost amongst a sea of more trivial, petty gripes and arguments amongst posters.

Hopefully the new system means the worst examples of bias are given greater exposure.
 
Ric said:
Ha, I'm sure there'll be a new Guardiola thread as soon as there's any news or updates. Or feel free to start a new one is there's anything specific about Guardiola you wish to discuss!
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Not really, i just like reading things pointing to him coming, it helps me get over the fact Pellegrini is still here wasting our squad :-)
 
AntonDonJuan said:
Not really, i just like reading things pointing to him coming, it helps me get over the fact Pellegrini is still here wasting our squad :-)
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As soon as there's any new info pointing to him coming, I'm certain someone will start a new thread!
 
Ric said:
If there's a particular bit of media bias that you take exception to then start a thread.

The last thread, like the player ones, had become a bit of a jumbled mess.

You had legitimate grievances, like the Sky Sports panel's ridiculous coverage of the Everton game last Wednesday, lost amongst a sea of more trivial, petty gripes and arguments amongst posters.

Hopefully the new system means the worst examples of bias are given greater exposure.
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Ok and thanks. Sorry for the probably unnecessary comment about the one-man crusade in the last bias thread - frustrating as it was commenting on it is not really helpful.
 
Ric said:
As soon as there's any new info pointing to him coming, I'm certain someone will start a new thread!
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I'm not really that fussed, i just needed something to moan about until saturday when i can moan about pellegrini and toure again!
 
mcfc1632 said:
Ok and thanks. Sorry for the probably unnecessary comment about the one-man crusade in the last bias thread - frustrating as it was commenting on it is not really helpful.
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No worries mate. I think in the old thread you had people on both sides who just had a default stance, regardless of which example of supposed bias was raised.

Hopefully discussing individual incidents on their merits might be more interesting than the same posters saying "There is an agenda", "No there isn't" etc ad nauseum.
 
Ric said:
No worries mate. I think in the old thread you had people on both sides who just had a default stance, regardless of which example of supposed bias was raised.

Hopefully discussing individual incidents on their merits might be more interesting than the same posters saying "There is an agenda", "No there isn't" etc ad nauseum.
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There is though isn't there. :-)
 
Ric said:
No worries mate. I think in the old thread you had people on both sides who just had a default stance, regardless of which example of supposed bias was raised.

Hopefully discussing individual incidents on their merits might be more interesting than the same posters saying "There is an agenda", "No there isn't" etc ad nauseum.
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Just regarding removal of played threads, I know I'm a little controversial and sometimes a ****, but I think it's harder now to discuss the players mate.
 
City_Sean said:
Just regarding removal of played threads, I know I'm a little controversial and sometimes a ****, but I think it's harder now to discuss the players mate.
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I agree, it's all good when something specific happened like injury, transfer rumour, wonder goal etc. but what about judging a player's general performance?
 
KDBestplayerintheworld said:
I agree, it's all good when something specific happened like injury, transfer rumour, wonder goal etc. but what about judging a player's general performance?
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That's a fair point. Nothing is set in stone yet, we're just trialling it for now to see how it goes. We're always open to suggestions on how we can improve things.

My original plan was to have separate threads for player performances alone, but the feeling was that it wouldn't really change anything. Those threads would still dominate the forum, and be riddled with personal arguments, vendettas and wums.
 
Ric said:
My original plan was to have separate threads for player performances alone, but the feeling was that it wouldn't really change anything. Those threads would still dominate the forum, and be riddled with personal arguments, vendettas and wums.
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Inevitable in any football forum I suppose, no matter how you try & organize it. But let's see how it works out...
 
GaudinoMotors said:
Anything about a player's or manager's performance in a match in their own thread.
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Actually better in the post match thread (unless that was what you meant).

GaudinoMotors said:
Other topics about a player in a new specifically titled thread.
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That's the general idea, unless related.

Its certainly improved the forum this week, and its been easier to weed out those who are here just to cause trouble
 
City_Sean said:
Just regarding removal of played threads, I know I'm a little controversial and sometimes a ****, but I think it's harder now to discuss the players mate.
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Its working then :)

Seriously though, my issue with it was that it was far too easy to discuss a player with the player threads, and some people seem to think posting PlayerX is shit, over and over again, is discussion, even when they're out injured, so now we can discuss their match performance in the post match thread where its relevant to what they've actually done.
 
cleavers said:
Actually better in the post match thread (unless that was what you meant).

That's the general idea, unless related.

Its certainly improved the forum this week, and its been easier to weed out those who are here just to cause trouble
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But then the post match thread will become too stretched - rather than just a general synopsis of how the match was viewed.
People vent off or praise in the post match thread then get more specific and analytical in the player/manager threads.

Define "cause trouble"; voices or views that just don't agree with certain positions or something more?

In hindsight it was working fine. Anything about a player went in a politely titled thread - Can see some less than complimentary titled threads appearing next time Kolorov or Yaya have a bad game.

I think there will also be a lot more "not sure if already posted" and repetitive type posts and threads.
 
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