Player thread: Samir Nasri (2014/15)

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Re: Samir Nasri

For all those wondering why don't FA have rules where they can review the yellow card decision and award the red even if the evidence suggest a clear red is because of the long standing international law principle of Double Jeopardy
This Principle is observed by all the sporting bodies , international organizations and nations.The principle states that an offender cannot be punished twiced for the same offence,so once a punishment has been dished out a new verdict cannot be given on the Same point.

no, they cannot be tried for the same offence twice, if they have been found not guilty the first time that's it. Even if this principle held true for football (which it doesn't) the fact is Mbiwa was found "guilty" by Jones and punished, so all that's happening is that "sentence" would be looked at and reviewed, which happens all the time in the legal system.

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: Samir Nasri

Pellegrini hasn't played 433 for one minute of one game since he arrived, so he isn't going to start in the hardest game of the season. I've a feeling he will go with the 4222 again, in the absence of Nasri and Milner, with Navas wide right. Navas does actually tackle back very well, so this might not be a bad idea. As Barca come at us he might get some space to break, too.

we seemed to switch to a 4-3-3 yesterday after Garcia came on, maybe it was just a result of silva being pushed so deep by Newcastle pressure but it definitely looked a 4-3-3 shape to me.

Silva was in the hole in a 4231, surely. That's our normal "change" formation.

for a while he was, but towards the end of the game he was beside dinho with Garcia in behind shielding the centre halves, could have just been pressure but navas and nasri/milner kept their width and stayed advanced, looked like more of a tactical change to me.

 

[Barry's left peg]

Re: Samir Nasri

We need to show our support on Wednesday for Samir

 

[Fallingbostel Blue]

Re: Samir Nasri

FA RETROSPECTIVE BAN..........?

The player Mbiye, is looking at the ball all the time? (I'm on phone and my eyes aren't the best) so for me, he can see the ball and Nasri are already gone before he lands on his backside. Why on earth does he then swing his leg out again? Frustration pure and simple. A totally stupid, unforgivable and reckless foul. Ban the stupid twat. If he'd connected with Samir a split second earlier he'd be out for months, still might be. Tha wants actioning by the F.A. I'm not holding my breath, has anything been said on the news?

The more I see it the worse it gets; if you look at near the end he is off the floor with both feet thus trying to exert more power it to kicking NAsri's knee. He also follows through with his boot to ensure he as actually stopped him. A real cowards tackle.

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

Re: Samir Nasri

For all those wondering why don't FA have rules where they can review the yellow card decision and award the red even if the evidence suggest a clear red is because of the long standing international law principle of Double Jeopardy
This Principle is observed by all the sporting bodies , international organizations and nations.The principle states that an offender cannot be punished twiced for the same offence,so once a punishment has been dished out a new verdict cannot be given on the Same point.

no, they cannot be tried for the same offence twice, if they have been found not guilty the first time that's it. Even if this principle held true for football (which it doesn't) the fact is Mbiwa was found "guilty" by Jones and punished, so all that's happening is that "sentence" would be looked at and reviewed, which happens all the time in the legal system.

The principle states that an offender cannot be punished twice for the same offence or anyother offence based on similar facts
The exception to this rule is new facts which would suggest otherwise,now as in this case he was given a yellow for the tackle( which should have been red) so the verdict was yellow,now the only way this could have been overturned as red if mbiwa commited another offence in the process which didn't came to the knowledge of the ref at that time

 

[flb]

Re: Samir Nasri

Fern Yaya
Navas Silva Aguero
Negredo

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Samir Nasri

Barca can't seem to score against an Atletico Madrid team playing 4-4-2 against them in their meetings this season.

If Nasri was that bad he wouldn't be squeezing into a pair of fucking jeans.

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: Samir Nasri

For all those wondering why don't FA have rules where they can review the yellow card decision and award the red even if the evidence suggest a clear red is because of the long standing international law principle of Double Jeopardy
This Principle is observed by all the sporting bodies , international organizations and nations.The principle states that an offender cannot be punished twiced for the same offence,so once a punishment has been dished out a new verdict cannot be given on the Same point.

no, they cannot be tried for the same offence twice, if they have been found not guilty the first time that's it. Even if this principle held true for football (which it doesn't) the fact is Mbiwa was found "guilty" by Jones and punished, so all that's happening is that "sentence" would be looked at and reviewed, which happens all the time in the legal system.

The principle states that an offender cannot be punished twice for the same offence or anyother offence based on similar facts
The exception to this rule is new facts which would suggest otherwise,now as in this case he was given a yellow for the tackle( which should have been red) so the verdict was yellow,now the only way this could have been overturned as red if mbiwa commited another offence in the process which didn't came to the knowledge of the ref at that time

but he's not getting two yellow cards if they review it is he? he's getting the yellow upgraded to a red, by a court with higher authority, which is in no way a violation of double jeopardy and has countless precedents.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Re: Samir Nasri

and let's just hope by some miracle Jovetic is also fit..:) and yes tbh 4-3-3 is the system we need to go against barca as much MP love his 4-2-2-2 i don't think this will work a 4-3-3 like:

hart-zabba-demichelis-kolarov

garcia

fernandinho-yaya toure

navas/silva-negredo-aguero

Pellegrini hasn't played 433 for one minute of one game since he arrived, so he isn't going to start in the hardest game of the season. I've a feeling he will go with the 4222 again, in the absence of Nasri and Milner, with Navas wide right. Navas does actually tackle back very well, so this might not be a bad idea. As Barca come at us he might get some space to break, too.

We played 4-3-3 for the last (dunno exactly) 15mins or so against Palace.

played 4-3-3 at chelsea and bayern.

 

[blueparrot]

Re: Samir Nasri

The picture in the MEN says he was leaving after a scan, surely if it was that bad he would have been whisked of to a specialist or a surgeon, not walking out crutches or no crutches.