Player thread: Samir Nasri (2014/15)

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Re: Samir Nasri

Sick of Nasri. Can't believe we have just given him a new contract.
Fucking hel,he never ever does anything in a game of note and slows it up continually.

Sorry but Nasri would be first out of the door in Jan or next summer.
Funny isn't it. He and Yaya are best mates and they are both playing like they simply do not give a fuck.
Don't mind losing but at least put a fucking shift in ala Silva or Fernandinho.
I hope VK ripped them a new one last night

Nasri routinely covers more ground than any other City player, so I'm sure 'not putting in a shift' is his issue. It's the chronic lack of pace and power that render him ineffective against the better teams and I honestly think we need to trade him in for an attacking midfielder with both of those attributes. Toure though is a different story. His attitude stinks to high heaven and I wish to God we'd binned the bastard off in the summer

Lol,as to covering more ground,he normally just runs around like a headless chicken and offers nothing defensively,chickens out of tackles,no interceptions,nothing.

Go check out the mileage stats. I don't dispute his ineffectiveness against any top team (his lack of bottle is there for all to see), but it isn't because he isn't trying

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Re: Samir Nasri

I could run around like he does on a football pitch. He is supposed to be one our more creative players. In essence he isn't and I simply do not see what he brings to the team anymore. Never been his greatest fan but the last few games he has been terrible.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Samir Nasri

I have never taken to Nasri, even when he was playing well last season, only because his level was so low the previous two seasons.

I hold the opinion he is a decent player but far from world class.

He was bought at another stage in our development. Nasri has stayed the same player and the team is now trying to evolve beyond his ability.

It was the same with Barry, Lescott, Bellamy, Robinho.

All were necessary at some stage.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Re: Samir Nasri

I could run around like he does on a football pitch. He is supposed to be one our more creative players. In essence he isn't and I simply do not see what he brings to the team anymore. Never been his greatest fan but the last few games he has been terrible.

Considering he has had a full pre season, he has been extremely poor so far.

There are a few players who are not at it this season and they need to be shown the bench until they realise that they have to deserve their place in the side.

I expect him to be dropped again Sunday.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Re: Samir Nasri

I have never taken to Nasri, even when he was playing well last season, only because his level was so low the previous two seasons.

I hold the opinion he is a decent player but far from world class.

He was bought at another stage in our development. Nasri has stayed the same player and the team is now trying to evolve beyond his ability.

It was the same with Barry, Lescott, Bellamy, Robinho.

All were necessary at some stage.

Great post that Tolm.
I'd love to replace him with Reus and Yaya with Pogba or Barklay

 

[BillyShears]

Re: Samir Nasri

Some proper clueless muppets when it comes to football/Nasri.

Firstly, he isn't Navas nor is he Silva. He's not a number 10 and he isn't a pacey winger so expecting him to do the jobs either of them do is pointless stupidity.

Secondly, what he is is a ball recycler. His job is to be a pivot wherever he is on the pitch for the players around him because he will not lose the ball and he will let players run off him and move around him creating the triangles which coaches love.

Thirdly, as I've just posted in the match thread it is an absolute dereliction of duty that in three years and two managers nobody has bothered to bring in another left sided attacker. It's not Nasri's fault that he isn't suited to Bayern/Barca away when we are going to see less of the ball and play on the counter. We need another player who bring different qualities (see Navas) for the left and we don't have that player - hence whenever a big games rolls around like this the sofa pundits scream "drop Nasri" yet the professionals (Pellegrini AND Mancini) pick him without fail.

Anyway as scapegoats go he's been a good one for a while now although I do hear the Yaya steam train gathering pace. He could usurp Sami by the end of the day.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Re: Samir Nasri

Some proper clueless muppets when it comes to football/Nasri.

Firstly, he isn't Navas nor is he Silva. He's not a number 10 and he isn't a pacey winger so expecting him to do the jobs either of them do is pointless stupidity.

Secondly, what he is is a ball recycler. His job is to be a pivot wherever he is on the pitch for the players around him because he will not lose the ball and he will let players run off him and move around him creating the triangles which coaches love.

Thirdly, as I've just posted in the match thread it is an absolute dereliction of duty that in three years and two managers nobody has bothered to bring in another left sided attacker. It's not Nasri's fault that he isn't suited to Bayern/Barca away when we are going to see less of the ball and play on the counter. We need another player who bring different qualities (see Navas) for the left and we don't have that player - hence whenever a big games rolls around like this the sofa pundits scream "drop Nasri" yet the professionals (Pellegrini AND Mancini) pick him without fail.

Anyway as scapegoats go he's been a good one for a while now although I do hear the Yaya steam train gathering pace. He could usurp Sami by the end of the day.

Morning mate-Of course it isn't fair to blame Nasri for last night however his lack of drive and desire is what concerns me.
I don't know the last outstanding game he had for City. Maybe you could refresh my memory but it is plain to see he doesnt look comfortable at present.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Samir Nasri

Some proper clueless muppets when it comes to football/Nasri.

Firstly, he isn't Navas nor is he Silva. He's not a number 10 and he isn't a pacey winger so expecting him to do the jobs either of them do is pointless stupidity.

Secondly, what he is is a ball recycler. His job is to be a pivot wherever he is on the pitch for the players around him because he will not lose the ball and he will let players run off him and move around him creating the triangles which coaches love.

Thirdly, as I've just posted in the match thread it is an absolute dereliction of duty that in three years and two managers nobody has bothered to bring in another left sided attacker. It's not Nasri's fault that he isn't suited to Bayern/Barca away when we are going to see less of the ball and play on the counter. We need another player who bring different qualities (see Navas) for the left and we don't have that player - hence whenever a big games rolls around like this the sofa pundits scream "drop Nasri" yet the professionals (Pellegrini AND Mancini) pick him without fail.

Anyway as scapegoats go he's been a good one for a while now although I do hear the Yaya steam train gathering pace. He could usurp Sami by the end of the day.

Mate, we are never going to agree on Nasri.

Like you, I thought we should have sold Yaya in the summer and that will come back to bite us on the arse quickly enough.

As for Nasri, you can't give him a get-out-of-jail-free card by stating he is in the team to recycle the ball.

That's a central midfielder's job and we have one of them in Fernandinho. See how Fernandinho showed glimpses of breaking the Bayern lines last night, just to allow us to breathe, pretty exciting, I thought.

He is doing Nasri's and Yaya job for them at present.

I agree that the club should have addressed the problem in the market, but Nasri should never have got a new deal.

Based on his inconsistency, inability to play a faster tempo, allied to his price tag and wages, he should have been used as the solution to rectify the weakness in the market and also demonstrated to Milner there was a consistent route to more starts.

 

[BillyShears]

Re: Samir Nasri

Some proper clueless muppets when it comes to football/Nasri.

Firstly, he isn't Navas nor is he Silva. He's not a number 10 and he isn't a pacey winger so expecting him to do the jobs either of them do is pointless stupidity.

Secondly, what he is is a ball recycler. His job is to be a pivot wherever he is on the pitch for the players around him because he will not lose the ball and he will let players run off him and move around him creating the triangles which coaches love.

Thirdly, as I've just posted in the match thread it is an absolute dereliction of duty that in three years and two managers nobody has bothered to bring in another left sided attacker. It's not Nasri's fault that he isn't suited to Bayern/Barca away when we are going to see less of the ball and play on the counter. We need another player who bring different qualities (see Navas) for the left and we don't have that player - hence whenever a big games rolls around like this the sofa pundits scream "drop Nasri" yet the professionals (Pellegrini AND Mancini) pick him without fail.

Anyway as scapegoats go he's been a good one for a while now although I do hear the Yaya steam train gathering pace. He could usurp Sami by the end of the day.

Morning mate-Of course it isn't fair to blame Nasri for last night however his lack of drive and desire is what concerns me.
I don't know the last outstanding game he had for City. Maybe you could refresh my memory but it is plain to see he doesnt look comfortable at present.

Drive, desire, and comfortable are three adjectives which mean nothing to me in this context. It's just "fan talk" as Dave would say. He consistently covers more ground and completes more passes than most of our midfield players.

I'll say again, two managers have consistently picked him ahead of Milner week in and week out, big game or small. Why do you think that is?

 

[pikku]

Re: Samir Nasri

Nasri routinely covers more ground than any other City player, so I'm sure 'not putting in a shift' is his issue. It's the chronic lack of pace and power that render him ineffective against the better teams and I honestly think we need to trade him in for an attacking midfielder with both of those attributes. Toure though is a different story. His attitude stinks to high heaven and I wish to God we'd binned the bastard off in the summer

Lol,as to covering more ground,he normally just runs around like a headless chicken and offers nothing defensively,chickens out of tackles,no interceptions,nothing.

Go check out the mileage stats. I don't dispute his ineffectiveness against any top team (his lack of bottle is there for all to see), but it isn't because he isn't trying

Stats are deceiving in this case,just simply runnning around the whole pitch with no intent amounts to no use at all at the end of the day.

 

[BillyShears]

Re: Samir Nasri

Mate, we are never going to agree on Nasri.

Like you, I thought we should have sold Yaya in the summer and that will come back to bite us on the arse quickly enough.

As for Nasri, you can't give him a get-out-of-jail-free card by stating he is in the team to recycle the ball.

That's a central midfielder's job and we have one of them in Fernandinho. See how Fernandinho showed glimpses of breaking the Bayern lines last night, just to allow us to breathe, pretty exciting, I thought.

He is doing Nasri's and Yaya job for them at present.

I agree that the club should have addressed the problem in the market, but Nasri should never have got a new deal.

Based on his inconsistency, inability to play a faster tempo, allied to his price tag and wages, he should have been used as the solution to rectify the weakness in the market and also demonstrated to Milner there was a consistent route to more starts.

Turn your phone on :)

I agree we aren't going to agree on Sami. I think i can handle the criticisms when he has a poor game and his head drops, but the constant stream of invective about his hunger and desire is just nonsense. He loves playing for City and as I've just said, consistently covers more ground and completes more passes than the rest of our midfield. That to me speaks volumes about the unseen work he does.

With regards ball recycling/Fernandinho. Yes Dinho does that job, but Nasri does it in the attacking half of the pitch. His job is to move inside and give Yaya an angle, give Silva an angle, occupy a full back then give Kola the ball.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Re: Samir Nasri

Some proper clueless muppets when it comes to football/Nasri.

Firstly, he isn't Navas nor is he Silva. He's not a number 10 and he isn't a pacey winger so expecting him to do the jobs either of them do is pointless stupidity.

Secondly, what he is is a ball recycler. His job is to be a pivot wherever he is on the pitch for the players around him because he will not lose the ball and he will let players run off him and move around him creating the triangles which coaches love.

Thirdly, as I've just posted in the match thread it is an absolute dereliction of duty that in three years and two managers nobody has bothered to bring in another left sided attacker. It's not Nasri's fault that he isn't suited to Bayern/Barca away when we are going to see less of the ball and play on the counter. We need another player who bring different qualities (see Navas) for the left and we don't have that player - hence whenever a big games rolls around like this the sofa pundits scream "drop Nasri" yet the professionals (Pellegrini AND Mancini) pick him without fail.

Anyway as scapegoats go he's been a good one for a while now although I do hear the Yaya steam train gathering pace. He could usurp Sami by the end of the day.

Morning mate-Of course it isn't fair to blame Nasri for last night however his lack of drive and desire is what concerns me.
I don't know the last outstanding game he had for City. Maybe you could refresh my memory but it is plain to see he doesnt look comfortable at present.

Drive, desire, and comfortable are three adjectives which mean nothing to me in this context. It's just "fan talk" as Dave would say. He consistently covers more ground and completes more passes than most of our midfield players.

I'll say again, two managers have consistently picked him ahead of Milner week in and week out, big game or small. Why do you think that is?

Well I'm not Jimmy's nor Samirs greatest fan however Milner does graft and put his foot in when needed.
I agree with you re the left sided problem,Di Maria would have been ideal but that ship has sailed unfortunately.
Anyway,hope you are well. I'm off out for the day to the races. Let's hope we get back to winning ways on Sunday

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Re: Samir Nasri

nasri doesnt appear to have the hunger some of our other players have , we won the title in 2012 and he his next season was diabolical , we win the title in 2014 , and he has started the next season in the same way , the likes of vinny,zabs,silva,hart, etc have a hunger for winning trophies every season

 

[BlueAnorak]

Re: Samir Nasri

Here he is on the pitch last night - see if you can find him:

Not good enough for the big games.

 

[onceabluealways]

Re: Samir Nasri

Nasri probably splits City fans more than any other player.

He does a job well getting the ball holding possesion plus some good balls and the odd goal.

What he seems to lack is desire and bottle when he needs to step up. Personally I think you can get better players to play his roll in the team.

We should have gone for di maria , he would have give us something extra and would have given the team a lift. We have made similar mistakes to 2012 trying to consolidate the squad rather than really moving the first team on to another level.

 

[Worst Case Ontario]

Re: Samir Nasri

Wouldnt mind if we benched him for a while, maybe he'll get it. But most likely he will take a selfie with his plastic cheerleader and proclaim CIty can fuck off

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Samir Nasri

Mate, we are never going to agree on Nasri.

Like you, I thought we should have sold Yaya in the summer and that will come back to bite us on the arse quickly enough.

As for Nasri, you can't give him a get-out-of-jail-free card by stating he is in the team to recycle the ball.

That's a central midfielder's job and we have one of them in Fernandinho. See how Fernandinho showed glimpses of breaking the Bayern lines last night, just to allow us to breathe, pretty exciting, I thought.

He is doing Nasri's and Yaya job for them at present.

I agree that the club should have addressed the problem in the market, but Nasri should never have got a new deal.

Based on his inconsistency, inability to play a faster tempo, allied to his price tag and wages, he should have been used as the solution to rectify the weakness in the market and also demonstrated to Milner there was a consistent route to more starts.

Turn your phone on :)

I agree we aren't going to agree on Sami. I think i can handle the criticisms when he has a poor game and his head drops, but the constant stream of invective about his hunger and desire is just nonsense. He loves playing for City and as I've just said, consistently covers more ground and completes more passes than the rest of our midfield. That to me speaks volumes about the unseen work he does.

With regards ball recycling/Fernandinho. Yes Dinho does that job, but Nasri does it in the attacking half of the pitch. His job is to move inside and give Yaya an angle, give Silva an angle, occupy a full back then give Kola the ball.

Selling Toure kills two birds with one stone, and generates the funds to do proper damage with it.

Get a proper replacement for Toure and that then allows Fernandinho to play higher up and recycle in the Nasri areas of the field. He's better at it and also has a great eye for a pass.

That means we can sell Nasri and raise the type of money to get a decent left-sided attacker.

Missing out on di Maria is a mistake of major proportions.

And it could have been avoided if City had the foresight to have got rid of our two biggest flaws.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Re: Samir Nasri

I thought he worked hard in the first half but he was very ineffective with the ball.

 

[Lucky Toma]

Re: Samir Nasri

Some proper clueless muppets when it comes to football/Nasri.

Firstly, he isn't Navas nor is he Silva. He's not a number 10 and he isn't a pacey winger so expecting him to do the jobs either of them do is pointless stupidity.

Secondly, what he is is a ball recycler. His job is to be a pivot wherever he is on the pitch for the players around him because he will not lose the ball and he will let players run off him and move around him creating the triangles which coaches love.

Thirdly, as I've just posted in the match thread it is an absolute dereliction of duty that in three years and two managers nobody has bothered to bring in another left sided attacker. It's not Nasri's fault that he isn't suited to Bayern/Barca away when we are going to see less of the ball and play on the counter. We need another player who bring different qualities (see Navas) for the left and we don't have that player - hence whenever a big games rolls around like this the sofa pundits scream "drop Nasri" yet the professionals (Pellegrini AND Mancini) pick him without fail.

Anyway as scapegoats go he's been a good one for a while now although I do hear the Yaya steam train gathering pace. He could usurp Sami by the end of the day.

Disagree about Nasri being our recycler, even in the final third as you later state.

His role is not to make things happen around him - he's the one who's supposed to make things happen.

If Nasri is our 'recycler' then so too is Silva (who does the role you describe more often and infinitely better)

If Nasri is our 'recycler' it is money for old rope.

 

[Sergio<3]

Re: Samir Nasri

Doesn't offer anything at the moment. Would he get in Chelsea's team? I don't think so