Player Topic: Fabian Delph (2015/16)

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I don't know if someone mentioned it, but it's a good reading...
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...t-sense-for-manchester-city?ICID=TP_TNM_ART_2

At least Raheem Sterling has company now. Manchester City's summer business has been concentrated on footballers who have cultivated notoriety with their tactics in the transfer market, albeit in opposing ways. The £49 million winger was accused of disloyalty. Fabian Delph seems guilty of professing himself excessively loyal.

For once, a club website has become essential reading. Or, at the least, a statement posted on Aston Villa's last Saturday has. "I'm not leaving," Delph declared. "I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the season and captaining this great football club."

Six days later, Delph had signed a five-year contract in Manchester. That great football club, which he was so proud to skipper, has to start the search for a new captain. Delph had performed one of the most staggering U-turns in even the increasingly bizarre world of Premier League football. And City, supposedly the graveyard of English talent, had signed a second member of Roy Hodgson's senior squad.

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The immediate, and obvious, reaction is to conclude that Delph has made a fool of himself. So he has, and those are words that he will struggle to live down, especially on his return to Villa Park on November 7. Delve beneath the headlines and ignore the growing sense of infamy, however, and there are the more important issues. The footballing factors.

And City can celebrate his move. If they paid over the odds for Sterling, then they have got Delph on the cheap, courtesy of his £8 million release clause. They might not have secured a bargain in that price bracket in the Sheikh Mansour era or, to put it another way, since Vincent Kompany and Pablo Zabaleta arrived weeks before their 2008 takeover.

Fiscal prudence has been allied with sensible squad-building. The temptation is to suggest that Delph will be another Jack Rodwell or Scott Sinclair, a Brit consigned to the margins of a largely imported squad... but there are reasons to believe that he will not suffer the same fate. His body is more resilient than Rodwell’s and, at 25, he understands his game better. Sinclair, quite simply, was not good enough. Delph, in contrast, was one of comparatively few players to earn a regular berth in the England team when not employed at one of the elite clubs. It is a rare achievement.

He is no playmaker but he is a more penetrative passer than Fernando and, in any case, his task will be to retrieve the ball and give it to Yaya Toure, David Silva or Sterling. He offers energy, dynamism and moments of quality. He can provide a box-to-box presence, as he did for Tim Sherwood's Villa, or operate as a more defensive midfielder, as he did in Paul Lambert's side. City's probable 4-2-3-1 formation offers the scope for Delph to be deployed in either role. With James Milner and Frank Lampard gone, there was a vacancy for another specialist central midfielder, an antidote to the more attack-minded creators.

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Especially as Toure is increasingly among them. The notion that Manuel Pellegrini simply picks Toure and Fernandinho in the centre of midfield is outdated. The Champions League defeat by Barcelona and the Premier League loss to Liverpool were signs that the Ivorian's lack of attention to his defensive duties can cost City in the big games. They increasingly require the insurance policy of two workhorses behind the Ivorian, a lolloping giant of a No.10. Now Delph is more of a roving tackler.

The equation should not be two from four. Especially for the tougher tests, it becomes two from three, plus a more advanced Toure. One of those three is Fernando, who excelled last August but underwhelmed in the rest of his debut season at City to become an indictment of Txiki Begiristain's recruitment record. Fernandinho had a terrific debut year but then his World Cup hangover lasted until November. He improved thereafter and this summer's Copa America exit on penalties should not be as damaging as a 7-1 thrashing by Germany but the Brazilian will be eased into the campaign. Delph should get a chance to establish himself in the side before Fernandinho is fully match-fit.

Delph need not fear the competition. He should be neither automatic choice nor outcast. He stands a greater chance of establishing himself in the City midfield than he would at Chelsea, given the presence of Nemanja Matic and Cesc Fabregas, or Manchester United, considering the spending on Morgan Schneiderlin and Bastian Schweinsteiger. City offer his best opportunity of playing a significant number of games for a title challenger. To say no would either have been, as he claimed last week, a show of loyalty to Villa or an indication of a lack of faith in his own ability.

So this should be an excellent deal for two of the three parties involved: Delph and City. But not for Villa, losing their best midfielder as well as their finest defender, Ron Vlaar, and their outstanding forward, Christian Benteke. Delph's departure will be all the crueller for the false hope he gave them. Paragon will be pariah, leader will become loathed. It is the price that he will pay for changing his mind.
 
Very good analysis that. It's also overlooked that he is left footed and in a 4 3 3 he would be the natural choice to play on the left of yaya with dinho on the right. We had a gaping whole behind silva on the left last year and that is where he comes in, protecting the left sided full back and cb. He is an Excellant fit for our first team.
 


What a proper decent bloke he seems like.

I agree. It's a part of football business that receives little attention, but I believe carries weight when City are considering importing a player. The character of the player is important, not only on the pitch but within the group. I personally have completely forgiven him for his change of heart. It's a difficult thing to change clubs, as we have seen with Sterling.

I have a very good feeling that he is going to surprise a lot of doubters. He strikes me as being the type that will rise to the challenge, and being a left footer will help tighten up our left hand side.

Once again excellent business by Txiki.
 
I agree. It's a part of football business that receives little attention, but I believe carries weight when City are considering importing a player. The character of the player is important, not only on the pitch but within the group. I personally have completely forgiven him for his change of heart. It's a difficult thing to change clubs, as we have seen with Sterling.

I have a very good feeling that he is going to surprise a lot of doubters. He strikes me as being the type that will rise to the challenge, and being a left footer will help tighten up our left hand side.

Once again excellent business by Txiki.
I think you'll find it's against the CoC to say anything positive about Txiki. Let's just get on with blaming him for not getting the Messi deal done ;-)
 
I worry for him if we sign Pogba. If not he'll get plenty of opportunities.
I took some paragraphs from the article: http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...t-sense-for-manchester-city?ICID=TP_TNM_ART_2

"...The temptation is to suggest that Delph will be another Jack Rodwell or Scott Sinclair, a Brit consigned to the margins of a largely imported squad... but there are reasons to believe that he will not suffer the same fate. His body is more resilient than Rodwell’s and, at 25, he understands his game better. Sinclair, quite simply, was not good enough. Delph, in contrast, was one of comparatively few players to earn a regular berth in the England team when not employed at one of the elite clubs. It is a rare achievement.

Delph need not fear the competition. He should be neither automatic choice nor outcast. He stands a greater chance of establishing himself in the City midfield than he would at Chelsea, given the presence of Nemanja Matic and Cesc Fabregas, or Manchester United, considering the spending on Morgan Schneiderlin and Bastian Schweinsteiger. City offer his best opportunity of playing a significant number of games for a title challenger. To say no would either have been, as he claimed last week, a show of loyalty to Villa or an indication of a lack of faith in his own ability.

So this should be an excellent deal for two of the three parties involved: Delph and City. But not for Villa, losing their best midfielder as well as their finest defender, Ron Vlaar, and their outstanding forward, Christian Benteke. Delph's departure will be all the crueller for the false hope he gave them. Paragon will be pariah, leader will become loathed. It is the price that he will pay for changing his mind"
 
I took some paragraphs from the article: http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...t-sense-for-manchester-city?ICID=TP_TNM_ART_2

"...The temptation is to suggest that Delph will be another Jack Rodwell or Scott Sinclair, a Brit consigned to the margins of a largely imported squad... but there are reasons to believe that he will not suffer the same fate. His body is more resilient than Rodwell’s and, at 25, he understands his game better. Sinclair, quite simply, was not good enough. Delph, in contrast, was one of comparatively few players to earn a regular berth in the England team when not employed at one of the elite clubs. It is a rare achievement.

Delph need not fear the competition. He should be neither automatic choice nor outcast. He stands a greater chance of establishing himself in the City midfield than he would at Chelsea, given the presence of Nemanja Matic and Cesc Fabregas, or Manchester United, considering the spending on Morgan Schneiderlin and Bastian Schweinsteiger. City offer his best opportunity of playing a significant number of games for a title challenger. To say no would either have been, as he claimed last week, a show of loyalty to Villa or an indication of a lack of faith in his own ability.

So this should be an excellent deal for two of the three parties involved: Delph and City. But not for Villa, losing their best midfielder as well as their finest defender, Ron Vlaar, and their outstanding forward, Christian Benteke. Delph's departure will be all the crueller for the false hope he gave them. Paragon will be pariah, leader will become loathed. It is the price that he will pay for changing his mind"

We needed a defensive MF, if Delph can be that man and do a better job than Nando/Dinho, I don't see why he can't get plenty opportunities at the club. It's an important position.
 
The most important thing Delph will offer in midfield is legs, Sky tweeted this yesterday, assuming its accurate this is a big improvement in our midfield.

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That says more about the work rate of our existing midfield.
Hopefully we will up the workrate of the whole team like Barca did last season rather than rely on a Milner type of player to provide that.
If not I fear we will struggle yet again particularly in CL.
 
Just reading up on Vlaar (wanted to see how old he was and read the rest of his bio) and saw something quite interesting...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Vlaar#Aston_Villa said:
On 15 July 2012, Feyenoord confirmed that Vlaar had travelled to Birmingham to hold talks with Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert with a view to a possible transfer.[21] During Villa's pre-season tour of the United States, however, Vlaar admitted that the deal was off and he would remain with Feyenoord.[22] In another turn of events, it was then announced on 27 July that he would eventually be joining the Premier League side, as he had agreed personal terms and would sign for Villa subject to him passing a medical.

So their former captain changed his mind, then changed it again, and their fans didn't protest wildly?

That can't be right. If it was, it'd make Villa fans a group of hypocritical twatbags, surely.
 
Something i never get is why the scum are taking the piss comparing it to their swinestiger signing but werent they the ones signing ashley young a couple of seasons ago?
 
Delph had a buy out clause of £8m if a Champions League club came in for him, something i'm sure he asked for but Villa should of negotiated a higher fee with Delph when he signed a new contract.

Thanks mate, good bit of business then. Either way it's a win win, if it don't work out you'll sell for a potential profit
 
Something i never get is why the scum are taking the piss comparing it to their swinestiger signing but werent they the ones signing ashley young a couple of seasons ago?

Something I never get is why City fans try to rationalise what the United idiots are saying......do you really think that they will come out with constructive comments relating to City and it's players....haha!!!!!.
 
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