Player topic: Frank Lampard (2014/15)

[jaiguruKun]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

We did not sign him on loan in August, we signed him as a free agent until the end of the season with a break clause in January which has now been removed. He is effectively starting his loan as of today. So all those who have been frothing at the mouth from August onwards were doing so over absolutely nothing as he only officially became an NYCFC player today.

No doubt there will be even more hysterical reaction in the mainstream media over today's news but I would like to know how MCFC have benefitted from the arrangement from NYCFC. It has not been some elaborate method of avoiding paying his wages as was suggested by some at the start of the deal - funny how this all seams to have gone quiet isn't it? So what else do they have to complain about? Do they really care so much about NYCFC fans that much?

Its late, and I may have missed something, but I'm not following your post.

If we (City) signed him as a "free agent" for the whole season, with a "break clause in January", which has now been removed, how is his loan to us from NYCFC starting today ?

It's ambiguous, as the exact details of his contract with NYCFC are unclear but if they intended to sign him for the forthcoming season starting in March what would have been the point in them registering him from August?

There is little doubt that the whole affair could have been handled better. The most important point in all of this is that there has been no strategic advantage gained by MCFC from the involvement of NYCFC as was the suggestion at the start of the deal.

 

[Damocles]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

Disappointed in the decision. I think its short sighted, and casts real doubt on the credibility of the CFG project.

I'm not, I don't support CFG, I support Manchester City FC, call me short sighted if you want.

I'm talking about the decision, not any supporter.

Because as I said earlier, your entire picture of what the CFG project is is just wrong.

It's a collection of clubs working together for the whole. At the moment, having Lamopard help one win the most prestigious league in the world is more important than having him as the second Designated Player for a MLS season. You're thinking in such tiny terms, CFG is about the next 50 years not the next 50 days. NYCFC will get their benefits but the facts of the matter is that Lampard was needed more at City than New York so that's where he went.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

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Let's Stick Together, Even Without Lampard

Most of you know me by now but if not, I'm a Man City fan from NOLA. I started following NYCFC through the Man City account and I got very excited for what this club could mean for US Soccer, MLS, etc.

Like most of you, I feel duped, embarrassed and angry. I've been on here and on twitter telling people how great this would be, how different this would be from failed experiments like Chivas USA, how we weren't a feeder club, etc. For a while this afternoon, I wondered whether I should even stay rooting for NYCFC.

People come to start rooting for sports teams for many reasons. There was a hashtag going around earlier today about why you started rooting for NYCFC. Maybe you came because they were a team in New York City. maybe you came because they were a Manchester City affiliate. Maybe you came because you just hated the Red Bulls name. Whatever.

But when people asked why we supported a team that had never played, they had a point. Those are all good reasons to start rooting for a team, but not very good reasons to stay rooting for a team. The location, the crest, the kit, the owners, the players, the coaches, etc. can all change like that. Why do people stay rooting?

Well, in my experience, it's because of the community that builds around a team. People say fans root for laundry, but that's never true. People root for a team because their friend, their father, their co-workers all as one live and die with the fortunes of a team. That communal experience in a world where people rarely leave their house or look up from their phone is so rare, so precious. That's what drives fans to stick through thick and thin with a team, regardless of the team's fortunes.

I decided this afternoon to stick with NYCFC not because of any more naivety about the club but because of the community of awesome people who loved NYCFC that I've been fortunate enough to interact with here. I've had a blast on here since March, and I couldn't imagine ditching this.

I get some people are angry and want to dump their season tickets. I understand completely, and wish you well with no ill feeling. But I hope you stay. For so long, we've been called Plastic. Now's a chance to prove them wrong. Let's stick together, despite the abuse and jokes that are coming our way.

We don't need Frank Lampard or Manchester City or MLS to create an incredible community of fans; we've done it without them already, right here. And this community is worth keeping. So please, stick around.


MikeDatTiger, Today at 6:06 PM

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What a great post from a true fan

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/lets-stick-together-even-without-lampard.1807/

Let's Stick Together, Even Without Lampard

Most of you know me by now but if not, I'm a Man City fan from NOLA. I started following NYCFC through the Man City account and I got very excited for what this club could mean for US Soccer, MLS, etc.

Like most of you, I feel duped, embarrassed and angry. I've been on here and on twitter telling people how great this would be, how different this would be from failed experiments like Chivas USA, how we weren't a feeder club, etc. For a while this afternoon, I wondered whether I should even stay rooting for NYCFC.

People come to start rooting for sports teams for many reasons. There was a hashtag going around earlier today about why you started rooting for NYCFC. Maybe you came because they were a team in New York City. maybe you came because they were a Manchester City affiliate. Maybe you came because you just hated the Red Bulls name. Whatever.

But when people asked why we supported a team that had never played, they had a point. Those are all good reasons to start rooting for a team, but not very good reasons to stay rooting for a team. The location, the crest, the kit, the owners, the players, the coaches, etc. can all change like that. Why do people stay rooting?

Well, in my experience, it's because of the community that builds around a team. People say fans root for laundry, but that's never true. People root for a team because their friend, their father, their co-workers all as one live and die with the fortunes of a team. That communal experience in a world where people rarely leave their house or look up from their phone is so rare, so precious. That's what drives fans to stick through thick and thin with a team, regardless of the team's fortunes.

I decided this afternoon to stick with NYCFC not because of any more naivety about the club but because of the community of awesome people who loved NYCFC that I've been fortunate enough to interact with here. I've had a blast on here since March, and I couldn't imagine ditching this.

I get some people are angry and want to dump their season tickets. I understand completely, and wish you well with no ill feeling. But I hope you stay. For so long, we've been called Plastic. Now's a chance to prove them wrong. Let's stick together, despite the abuse and jokes that are coming our way.

We don't need Frank Lampard or Manchester City or MLS to create an incredible community of fans; we've done it without them already, right here. And this community is worth keeping. So please, stick around.


MikeDatTiger, Today at 6:06 PM

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What a great post from a true fan

Maybe you should collect all of your links and put them together into one post?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/lets-stick-together-even-without-lampard.1807/

Let's Stick Together, Even Without Lampard

Most of you know me by now but if not, I'm a Man City fan from NOLA. I started following NYCFC through the Man City account and I got very excited for what this club could mean for US Soccer, MLS, etc.

Like most of you, I feel duped, embarrassed and angry. I've been on here and on twitter telling people how great this would be, how different this would be from failed experiments like Chivas USA, how we weren't a feeder club, etc. For a while this afternoon, I wondered whether I should even stay rooting for NYCFC.

People come to start rooting for sports teams for many reasons. There was a hashtag going around earlier today about why you started rooting for NYCFC. Maybe you came because they were a team in New York City. maybe you came because they were a Manchester City affiliate. Maybe you came because you just hated the Red Bulls name. Whatever.

But when people asked why we supported a team that had never played, they had a point. Those are all good reasons to start rooting for a team, but not very good reasons to stay rooting for a team. The location, the crest, the kit, the owners, the players, the coaches, etc. can all change like that. Why do people stay rooting?

Well, in my experience, it's because of the community that builds around a team. People say fans root for laundry, but that's never true. People root for a team because their friend, their father, their co-workers all as one live and die with the fortunes of a team. That communal experience in a world where people rarely leave their house or look up from their phone is so rare, so precious. That's what drives fans to stick through thick and thin with a team, regardless of the team's fortunes.

I decided this afternoon to stick with NYCFC not because of any more naivety about the club but because of the community of awesome people who loved NYCFC that I've been fortunate enough to interact with here. I've had a blast on here since March, and I couldn't imagine ditching this.

I get some people are angry and want to dump their season tickets. I understand completely, and wish you well with no ill feeling. But I hope you stay. For so long, we've been called Plastic. Now's a chance to prove them wrong. Let's stick together, despite the abuse and jokes that are coming our way.

We don't need Frank Lampard or Manchester City or MLS to create an incredible community of fans; we've done it without them already, right here. And this community is worth keeping. So please, stick around.


MikeDatTiger, Today at 6:06 PM

........................................

What a great post from a true fan

Maybe you should collect all of your links and put them together into one post?

I post them as Ifind them, you have a problem?

 

[moomba]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

Because as I said earlier, your entire picture of what the CFG project is is just wrong.

It's a collection of clubs working together for the whole. At the moment, having Lamopard help one win the most prestigious league in the world is more important than having him as the second Designated Player for a MLS season. You're thinking in such tiny terms, CFG is about the next 50 years not the next 50 days. NYCFC will get their benefits but the facts of the matter is that Lampard was needed more at City than New York so that's where he went.

I agree with the idea that CFG is a collection of clubs working together for the whole.

I don't agree that Lampard staying with us is more important than him being with NYCFC for the start of their first season.

I'm certainly not thinking about the next 50 days, the ramifications of this decision will be felt in New York long after that IMO and long after Lampard has left the CFG entirely. Thats why I said the decision was shortsighted because while it might benefit us in the short term I am thinking long term with the whole thing.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/lets-stick-together-even-without-lampard.1807/


What a great post from a true fan

Maybe you should collect all of your links and put them together into one post?

I post them as Ifind them, you have a problem?

Really spoiling for an argument aren't you? No problem, just a solution.

 

[Blue&whitestripes]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/lets-stick-together-even-without-lampard.1807/

Let's Stick Together, Even Without Lampard

Most of you know me by now but if not, I'm a Man City fan from NOLA. I started following NYCFC through the Man City account and I got very excited for what this club could mean for US Soccer, MLS, etc.

Like most of you, I feel duped, embarrassed and angry. I've been on here and on twitter telling people how great this would be, how different this would be from failed experiments like Chivas USA, how we weren't a feeder club, etc. For a while this afternoon, I wondered whether I should even stay rooting for NYCFC.

People come to start rooting for sports teams for many reasons. There was a hashtag going around earlier today about why you started rooting for NYCFC. Maybe you came because they were a team in New York City. maybe you came because they were a Manchester City affiliate. Maybe you came because you just hated the Red Bulls name. Whatever.

But when people asked why we supported a team that had never played, they had a point. Those are all good reasons to start rooting for a team, but not very good reasons to stay rooting for a team. The location, the crest, the kit, the owners, the players, the coaches, etc. can all change like that. Why do people stay rooting?

Well, in my experience, it's because of the community that builds around a team. People say fans root for laundry, but that's never true. People root for a team because their friend, their father, their co-workers all as one live and die with the fortunes of a team. That communal experience in a world where people rarely leave their house or look up from their phone is so rare, so precious. That's what drives fans to stick through thick and thin with a team, regardless of the team's fortunes.

I decided this afternoon to stick with NYCFC not because of any more naivety about the club but because of the community of awesome people who loved NYCFC that I've been fortunate enough to interact with here. I've had a blast on here since March, and I couldn't imagine ditching this.

I get some people are angry and want to dump their season tickets. I understand completely, and wish you well with no ill feeling. But I hope you stay. For so long, we've been called Plastic. Now's a chance to prove them wrong. Let's stick together, despite the abuse and jokes that are coming our way.

We don't need Frank Lampard or Manchester City or MLS to create an incredible community of fans; we've done it without them already, right here. And this community is worth keeping. So please, stick around.


MikeDatTiger, Today at 6:06 PM

........................................

What a great post from a true fan

Maybe you should collect all of your links and put them together into one post?

I post them as Ifind them, you have a problem?

Ahem. What you mean is "I post them as my wife finds them" ;-p

 

[EalingBlue2]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

I'm not, I don't support CFG, I support Manchester City FC, call me short sighted if you want.

I'm talking about the decision, not any supporter.

Because as I said earlier, your entire picture of what the CFG project is is just wrong.

It's a collection of clubs working together for the whole. At the moment, having Lamopard help one win the most prestigious league in the world is more important than having him as the second Designated Player for a MLS season. You're thinking in such tiny terms, CFG is about the next 50 years not the next 50 days. NYCFC will get their benefits but the facts of the matter is that Lampard was needed more at City than New York so that's where he went.

I don't think anyone thinks he is needed more here than NY, they have judged though that 1% difference in Manchester is bigger in impact than 10 or 20% impact at NY I suspect also a new deal will come for NY with the third marquee spot that they know about but not the fans that can offset this

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11

http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/lets-stick-together-even-without-lampard.1807/

Let's Stick Together, Even Without Lampard

Most of you know me by now but if not, I'm a Man City fan from NOLA. I started following NYCFC through the Man City account and I got very excited for what this club could mean for US Soccer, MLS, etc.

Like most of you, I feel duped, embarrassed and angry. I've been on here and on twitter telling people how great this would be, how different this would be from failed experiments like Chivas USA, how we weren't a feeder club, etc. For a while this afternoon, I wondered whether I should even stay rooting for NYCFC.

People come to start rooting for sports teams for many reasons. There was a hashtag going around earlier today about why you started rooting for NYCFC. Maybe you came because they were a team in New York City. maybe you came because they were a Manchester City affiliate. Maybe you came because you just hated the Red Bulls name. Whatever.

But when people asked why we supported a team that had never played, they had a point. Those are all good reasons to start rooting for a team, but not very good reasons to stay rooting for a team. The location, the crest, the kit, the owners, the players, the coaches, etc. can all change like that. Why do people stay rooting?

Well, in my experience, it's because of the community that builds around a team. People say fans root for laundry, but that's never true. People root for a team because their friend, their father, their co-workers all as one live and die with the fortunes of a team. That communal experience in a world where people rarely leave their house or look up from their phone is so rare, so precious. That's what drives fans to stick through thick and thin with a team, regardless of the team's fortunes.

I decided this afternoon to stick with NYCFC not because of any more naivety about the club but because of the community of awesome people who loved NYCFC that I've been fortunate enough to interact with here. I've had a blast on here since March, and I couldn't imagine ditching this.

I get some people are angry and want to dump their season tickets. I understand completely, and wish you well with no ill feeling. But I hope you stay. For so long, we've been called Plastic. Now's a chance to prove them wrong. Let's stick together, despite the abuse and jokes that are coming our way.

We don't need Frank Lampard or Manchester City or MLS to create an incredible community of fans; we've done it without them already, right here. And this community is worth keeping. So please, stick around.


MikeDatTiger, Today at 6:06 PM

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What a great post from a true fan

True fan of what exactly ?

Surely the team has to start playing, then the club evolves, then those who stick with it over time, EVENTUALLY BECOME, true fans ?

Or perhaps it's like the Spice Girls ? You just hear about an idea & even before the first song comes out, hey presto, you are a 'true fan' ?