Player topic: Frank Lampard (2014/15)

[supercity88]

Re: Frank Lampard

Stats or opinion?

Just from watching him over the last ten years or so. He always seemed to give the ball away a lot for someone who's perceived to be a top CM.

You need to give your head a fucking big wobble.Year after years Lamps was always one of the top midfielders who seldom gave the ball away.I suggest you go look on the stats to show you are entirely incorrect in your opinion.Pass completion was 80% and above.
Unbelievable Jeff !!

I would add to that the fact that Lampard was often playing the killer pass and if he ever was to give it away it was rarely when in a defensive midfield role that could lead to a counter attack - he keeps it when he needs to and isn't afraid to play the killer ball when required. Liverpool fans would have sucked Gerrard off for the pass Lampard played to Ramires at Barca the season Chelsea went all the way in the CL. Gerrard is more praised despite attempting world class passes when easier options are on. And slipping in front of his own defence. Thanks Stevie.

 

[HellasLEAF]

Re: Frank Lampard

was very very skeptical about the Lampard signing.

and couldn't even fathom him having a big role this year.

I was wrong.

 

[adrianr]

Re: Frank Lampard

was very very skeptical about the Lampard signing.

and couldn't even fathom him having a big role this year.

I was wrong.

I think more than a few of us were mate.

 

[Bluewonder]

Re: Frank Lampard

Stats or opinion?

Just from watching him over the last ten years or so. He always seemed to give the ball away a lot for someone who's perceived to be a top CM.

You need to give your head a fucking big wobble.Year after years Lamps was always one of the top midfielders who seldom gave the ball away.I suggest you go look on the stats to show you are entirely incorrect in your opinion.Pass completion was 80% and above.
Unbelievable Jeff !!

Have you actually watched him? Even against Villa he gave the ball away more than anyone else in our team. By the way, a pass completion rate of 80% isn't actually that good for a CM of a top clubs.

 

[Proelia]

Re: Frank Lampard

Just from watching him over the last ten years or so. He always seemed to give the ball away a lot for someone who's perceived to be a top CM.

You need to give your head a fucking big wobble.Year after years Lamps was always one of the top midfielders who seldom gave the ball away.I suggest you go look on the stats to show you are entirely incorrect in your opinion.Pass completion was 80% and above.
Unbelievable Jeff !!

Have you actually watched him? Even against Villa he gave the ball away more than anyone else in our team. By the way, a pass completion rate of 80% isn't actually that good for a CM of a top clubs.

It had to be this cockwomble talking shite as per

 

[Bluewonder]

Re: Frank Lampard

You need to give your head a fucking big wobble.Year after years Lamps was always one of the top midfielders who seldom gave the ball away.I suggest you go look on the stats to show you are entirely incorrect in your opinion.Pass completion was 80% and above.
Unbelievable Jeff !!

Have you actually watched him? Even against Villa he gave the ball away more than anyone else in our team. By the way, a pass completion rate of 80% isn't actually that good for a CM of a top clubs.

It had to be this cockwomble talking shite as per

Have you never wondered why England never got anywhere? Maybe it's because they never had the ball as Gerrard and Lampard couldn't retain possession as well as the other international central midfielders.

 

[Balti]

Re: Frank Lampard

was very very skeptical about the Lampard signing.

and couldn't even fathom him having a big role this year.

I was wrong.

I think more than a few of us were mate.

so were a few at Stamford Bridge lol

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

Re: Frank Lampard

Have you actually watched him? Even against Villa he gave the ball away more than anyone else in our team. By the way, a pass completion rate of 80% isn't actually that good for a CM of a top clubs.

It had to be this cockwomble talking shite as per

Have you never wondered why England never got anywhere? Maybe it's because they never had the ball as Gerrard and Lampard couldn't retain possession as well as the other international central midfielders.

I don't even like Lampard, never have, but even I can say you're talking utter shite

 

[dobobobo]

Re: Frank Lampard

Less likely to score a goal if he came on after 55 minutes? Whilst any player is on the pitch, they all have a chance of scoring.

Well yea but that's a very simple view and it's not the point. Games go through different phases at different times. When we need a goal like yesterday I think it's better to leave it later than 55 minutes to bring lampard on as we're not (usually) turning the screw quite so much at the point and the opposition isn't as tired. It's often the last 15/20 where we really start to bombard their box and that's where and when you want a sharp Lampard on the pitch. Against chelsea it was timed perfectly - enough time for us to be pushing on for a goal and chelsea to be tiring but also enough for Lampard to make an impact, which he did

Thus, it's Pellegrini's job to know what each play can bring to a match. He knows better than any of us who the best options are. So, I really don't see how you can question Pellegrini's actions.

No shit. But do you agree with every single decision pellegrini has made? It's not even necessarily that I'm disagreeing with his decision here, just the timing of it. Doesn't mean I think I know better than Pelllegrini and doesn't mean that I don't think he's a top manager and he's doing a good job

I admit, that I have confused matters, so I will try and keep the following simple.

If you think Frank should only play a set period of time as good tatic for the last third of the match regardless of the opposition, that's fine. But, I don't see how one can say things like "his legs have gone" and "Pellegrini is making a mistake bringing him on too soon against the likes of Villa". This is because:

a) It gives the impression you know Frank's current fitness better than Pellegrini and the backroom staff.

b) Villa - without trying to kill the game like most teams do - spent most of the match soaking up the pressure with good defending, counter attack as the only option. If Lampard hasn't got the legs to play against a team playing this way for a lengthy period of time then he'd shouldn't even be on the bench. The reason why he is on the bench is because he still has a level fitness required to atleast come on as a sub and try and push on for that goal as and when required (e.g. like against Villa when Fernandinho was injured). Furthermore, he has a vast amount of knowledge proved by his record, so he knows how to do things like retain stamina. He hasn't once done a major fuck up or showed any major signs that he can't handle more than your alloted time in your original post.

 

[dobobobo]

Re: Frank Lampard

Have you actually watched him? Even against Villa he gave the ball away more than anyone else in our team. By the way, a pass completion rate of 80% isn't actually that good for a CM of a top clubs.

It had to be this cockwomble talking shite as per

Have you never wondered why England never got anywhere? Maybe it's because they never had the ball as Gerrard and Lampard couldn't retain possession as well as the other international central midfielders.

Yet, they have all them caps.

Stats baby, stats.