Dax777 said:
pudge said:
It's not selective it's relevant.
Navas had a bad game, if people wish to voice their opinions of his performance then they'll do so (as is their right) in his dedicated thread.
There are numerous posts in the thread discussing Milner with regards to his performance. There was also a vast amount in the match thread.
Personally I saw nothing overly negative in SIlva's performance, Arsenal just did a job on him.
If you wish to create a thread about replacing Milner or Nasri or whoever with a youth team player, go ahead. That's your right to put your opinion across, not "scapegoating" anyone.
People view matches differently, they have different takes on a players performance. If many think Navas was bad then that's just that.
Perhaps it's ironic that some overreact to such things.
Also, I don't see what was "wrong" with what I said; wasn't aware their was a right answer but hey ho. This is Navas' thread, people will post about him.
Perhaps "wrong" wasn't the right word, but simply because people are stating an opinion on a particular players thread, doesn't mean they are not also scapegoating. Also, just because a claim is relevant, doesn't mean it's not also selective. I am sure you are quite aware of that. I didn't see anything wrong with Silva either, nor Milner for that matter. They were both simply shackled by Arsenals tight space. Hence they were less influential than Navas. And at best, equally as ineffective. That Navas was the only one able to get out of his shackle at all, it's in itself telling. That he was the only one of the 3 to bother the goalies gloves also is something. That he also created City best chance is also something else. But like I said in the "other Navas" ( he was so bad apparently he deserved 2) thread, too many must think playing well or not, starts at the attempt at the cross and ends at the result of the immediate outcome thereafter.
Otherwise, this feels a lot like scapegoating to me - but then again this is Navas thread :)
Of course crossing is not the be all and end all but with regards to Navas it is a huge part of his game and thus a source of great frustration.
He's not someone who's going to take his man on, as frustrating as that is. He does well to get into crossing positions, running behind defenders but if you can't deliver when you get into that position it's makes it rather redundant or all the more frustrating to see.
That clip posted last night; we're breaking and he offers himself out wide to create a crossing opportunity, great. He then gets the ball in plenty of time and makes a cock up of the cross, I mean a monstrosity of a cross.
That's even worse when you consider that's his role in the team, that's his focus. To get into those positions and deliver and he fails to do so more often than he should.
No doubt the focus when Navas is playing is to attack down the right, coupled with the fact Zabaleta is Zabaleta, so a lot of our attacks go through him. Unfortunately, a lot of our attacks stall with him. As a result he's given a lot more opportunities to cross the ball and create chances than the likes of Milner out the left so obviously numbers like crossing success and the like will be quite skewed. However, that's his job he is a focal point to our attack when he's playing so he should be doing a hell of lot better than he is and generally does. He has 6 assists and that's fantastic but he puts in just less than double the amount of crosses than Milner does out the left and yet he has 5. He's not making the most of his own hard work and chances created for him and that's frustrating.
If I was given the chance to improve one spot in the team, one position, it would right wing (left back would be close tbf). You yourself voice annoyance at not pursuing Sanchez, that's his main position as well.