Points for the final

[goater1978]

Not in the slightest.



I don't know if you're not reading what I've posted. I am not advocating that the club change it's ticketing policy for the final, the fact that the scheme was clearly explained from day 1 has no bearing on whether I think it is a fair scheme or not. The FA have made it fairly clear that corporates get a large percentage of the tickets for the final, I don't think that's a good policy either.

And I do think that if it carries on in this direction, being a member of a scheme will be pretty much essential if you want a ticket to the big cup games. So pretty much forced on you, just like the rags.

Being a fan shouldn't just be about "The big cup games". If you're not happy to commit to games like Watford at home then I don't see why you should have an automatic right to go to a FA cup final just because you've had a season ticket longer than the rest of us!

That's fine.

I personally think loyalty is about more than committing to a cup game against Watford. The best judge of loyalty we have is the loyalty points system which not only comprises season tickets in past years when we werent such an attractive proposition, but cup and away games too. People who go to the "lesser"cup games like Watford will end up with more points than those that don't.

But that's where ideology comes into it I guess.

Loyalty points create a false impression of loyalty. They used to hand them out for nothing. I got 150 points for some random Europa league game.

In addition if you've ever let anyone use your ticket to buy an away game that again gives you loyalty points for showing no loyalty.

A 50 year old man with a season ticket is not more loyal than an 18 year old fan with a season ticket. He's just lived longer!

Loyalty has to be constantly shown and be joining the cup scheme that shows loyalty and a willingness to support city no matter who the opposition.

You obviously believe you should now be able to cherry pick the games you get tickets for based on the fact in the past you had a lot of points!

Its ridiculous

 

[u2fme2]

A 50 year old man with a season ticket is not more loyal than an 18 year old fan with a season ticket. He's just lived longer!

Well thats a loud of bollocks too.
A 50 years old man who had a a season ticket for many a year has shown his
loyalty over many years through thick and thin. more thin i add,

 

[squirtyflower]

The only slight downside to the system I can see is those not on the cup scheme but go to every cup game.

My lads go to every game but I have to pay cash for their cup tickets so the wife can't see the money going directly out of the bank to MCFC. Sad but true.

I certainly have sympathy for those who are not on the cup scheme but have been to the games, which is why I proposed a system that took that it account

However old timers who haven't been to the cup games this year, for whatever reason, should go to the back of the queue

 

[alib]

hope they don't let kids with small amounts of points and not on the cup scheme jump the queue again

 

[Danny Hoekman]

The only slight downside to the system I can see is those not on the cup scheme but go to every cup game.

My lads go to every game but I have to pay cash for their cup tickets so the wife can't see the money going directly out of the bank to MCFC. Sad but true.

I certainly have sympathy for those who are not on the cup scheme but have been to the games, which is why I proposed a system that took that it account

However old timers who haven't been to the cup games this year, for whatever reason, should go to the back of the queue

Yep, agree with that.

By the way, I've had quite a few mates/aquaintances/friends of friends, who aren't regular match goers, getting in touch since Sunday asking if I can get tickets for the final for them. Just because I'm hardcore doesn't make me a fuckin' magician.<br /><br />-- Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:29 am --<br /><br />

hope they don't let kids with small amounts of points and not on the cup scheme jump the queue again

I do.

 

[moomba]

Loyalty points create a false impression of loyalty. They used to hand them out for nothing. I got 150 points for some random Europa league game.

Its not perfect but its the best judge of loyalty we have. Those that go to some random Europa League game will end up with more points than those that dont. For that matter those that sign up for the cup scheme will end up with more points than those that don't.

In addition if you've ever let anyone use your ticket to buy an away game that again gives you loyalty points for showing no loyalty.

Just like there's no requirement for a cup scheme member to attend a game.

A 50 year old man with a season ticket is not more loyal than an 18 year old fan with a season ticket. He's just lived longer!

The 50 year old has shown more loyalty to the club over time and deserves recognition for it.

Loyalty has to be constantly shown and be joining the cup scheme that shows loyalty and a willingness to support city no matter who the opposition.

This is where ideology comes into it. IMO loyalty shouldn't be forgotten about the day you dont dont sign up to a scheme. Particularly when the terms if the scheme make it difficult for many to sign up for it.

You obviously believe you should now be able to cherry pick the games you get tickets for based on the fact in the past you had a lot of points!

Yes, I believe the money, time and commitment people have shown to the club over years/decades should entitle them to some form of recognition over someone who has signed up for their first card and has the spare cash to join a scheme.

Once again I fully support the idea that scheme members get an advantage by signing up. Up to 600 points (close to a years worth of away games), points for the individual games, capped ticket prices for the early rounds and IMO they should get the opportunity to buy a ticket a couple of categories before they otherwise would.

 

[squirtyflower]

The only slight downside to the system I can see is those not on the cup scheme but go to every cup game.

My lads go to every game but I have to pay cash for their cup tickets so the wife can't see the money going directly out of the bank to MCFC. Sad but true.

I certainly have sympathy for those who are not on the cup scheme but have been to the games, which is why I proposed a system that took that it account

However old timers who haven't been to the cup games this year, for whatever reason, should go to the back of the queue

Yep, agree with that.

By the way, I've had quite a few mates/aquaintances/friends of friends, who aren't regular match goers, getting in touch since Sunday asking if I can get tickets for the final for them. Just because I'm hardcore doesn't make me a fuckin' magician.

I know exactly what you mean

 

[goater1978]

Loyalty points create a false impression of loyalty. They used to hand them out for nothing. I got 150 points for some random Europa league game.

Its not perfect but its the best judge of loyalty we have. Those that go to some random Europa League game will end up with more points than those that dont. For that matter those that sign up for the cup scheme will end up with more points than those that don't.

In addition if you've ever let anyone use your ticket to buy an away game that again gives you loyalty points for showing no loyalty.

Just like there's no requirement for a cup scheme member to attend a game.

A 50 year old man with a season ticket is not more loyal than an 18 year old fan with a season ticket. He's just lived longer!

The 50 year old has shown more loyalty to the club over time and deserves recognition for it.

Loyalty has to be constantly shown and be joining the cup scheme that shows loyalty and a willingness to support city no matter who the opposition.

This is where ideology comes into it. IMO loyalty shouldn't be forgotten about the day you dont dont sign up to a scheme. Particularly when the terms if the scheme make it difficult for many to sign up for it.

You obviously believe you should now be able to cherry pick the games you get tickets for based on the fact in the past you had a lot of points!

Yes, I believe the money, time and commitment people have shown to the club over years/decades should entitle them to some form of recognition over someone who has signed up for their first card and has the spare cash to join a scheme.

Once again I fully support the idea that scheme members get an advantage by signing up. Up to 600 points (close to a years worth of away games), points for the individual games, capped ticket prices for the early rounds and IMO they should get the opportunity to buy a ticket a couple of categories before they otherwise would.

Loyalty points are not forgotten when you join a scheme, people with more loyalty points rightly get priority within the scheme.

A 50 year old has not shown more loyalty, he is just older. A city fan who is 18 and being going to city for the last 10 years has shown more loyalty than a 50 year old city fan who has only being going for the last 20 years. The difference is he's been alive longer so has had the opportunity to go to more games (even though for the first 30 years of his life he couldn't be bothered).

 

[mancitymick]

I certainly have sympathy for those who are not on the cup scheme but have been to the games, which is why I proposed a system that took that it account

However old timers who haven't been to the cup games this year, for whatever reason, should go to the back of the queue

Yep, agree with that.

By the way, I've had quite a few mates/aquaintances/friends of friends, who aren't regular match goers, getting in touch since Sunday asking if I can get tickets for the final for them. Just because I'm hardcore doesn't make me a fuckin' magician.

I know exactly what you mean

Yeh but you promised :)

 

[goater1978]

Plus this scheme was not expensive. It was an extra £20 in Jan, Feb and March. If you couldn't afford that then you shouldn't be buying a season ticket in the first place!