Policing in the UK

[bert38]

Seen the new footage.

Didn't think it was well handled from the outset when the officers pushed his head down immediately, seemed to kick things off.

However the two lads should be arrested and charged for assaulting 4 police officers, not least punching two women officers.

The officer who stamped on his head will get a disciplinary hearing but the fact he looked concussed will be a mitigating factor. I don't think he'll lose his job over it. At least he shouldn't imo.

The extremists on both the Anti-Muslim and the Anti-Police side should both shut the fuck up.

Seen the new footage.

Didn't think it was well handled from the outset when the officers pushed his head down immediately, seemed to kick things off.

However the two lads should be arrested and charged for assaulting 4 police officers, not least punching two women officers.

The officer who stamped on his head will get a disciplinary hearing but the fact he looked concussed will be a mitigating factor. I don't think he'll lose his job over it. At least he shouldn't imo.

The extremists on both the Anti-Muslim and the Anti-Police side should both shut the fuck up.

the youth was clearly resisting already, pushing someone’s head down is perfectly acceptable-saying ‘please’ won’t work at that point.

 

[argyle]

What about the riots if the police were to arrest the two perps

What about them?

Clearly being wound up on purpose.
Same as on the Anti Muslim side.

Can't not arrest and charge because of a Mob.

 

[argyle]

Nope. The Copper shouldn't be booting someone in the head and stamping on it.

Ordinarily.

However he was clearly concussed and could barely stand.

The multiple punches he took will be a mitigating factor.

 

[Phil1]

Ok this is an horrific attack on police.

It looks like they attempt to arrest the skinny male whereupon the larger male intervenes and assaults the (kicking) officer. Another officer attempts to stop him. The larger Asian male repeatedly punches the officer to the head.

Meanwhile the skinny male punches the male officer wearing the cap and flattens the red haired cop with a punch to her face before also punching the blonde female cop several times. He then attacks the kicking officer punching him several times before he grabs him around the middle and falls back-he looks like he’s winded.

That’s when we start the original footage we all saw -and skinny lad is then kicked in the head..twice.

An appalling attack on police just trying to do their job.

Did the kicking officer lose it? It looks that way-but he’d already been punched to the head numerous times and grabbed whilst he was trying to/or had tasered the larger male. Falling back I believe there was a risk that his firearm could’ve been taken.

Both males clearly present a real danger to officers-both can clearly throw a punch. At that point of the kick two female officers are struggling and the kicking officer has been assaulted several times.

The force he then uses suggests he either snapped OR he had an honestly held belief that there was a genuine risk to his life or that of his colleagues or the public. Was there? That may seem v unlikely but the law is subjective, his honestly held belief.

Personally had he punched the skinny lad to the face or shoulder or kicked his stomach and then jumped on him and handcuffed him then I think on balance it would be perfectly reasonable in the face of such repeated violence. He didn’t-he boots him, stamps on him and then leaves him..

I must say I have no sympathy whatsoever for the two males who attacked the officers.

I doubt there’s any sympathy towards the **** from any right thinking person.
Still not sure it makes it right though.

 

[1961_vintage]

The copper still needs to lose his job and be prosecuted. Anything that happened before the guy was on the floor and booted and stamped on is irrelevant

Fucking hell - how ignorant.

 

[1961_vintage]

Will that be enough context to make the stomp lawful?

Never in a million years.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

How do you know that they weren't fighting members of the public before this? It seems like they turn around and then start fighting the police followed by seriously injuring an officer who was blindsided by it.

They then started fighting wildly and the only immediate response to protect the public and the officers themselves is to subdue them with any force necessary. This is the crap that the police have to deal with and they're only human.

Like I said, in other countries on another day other armed police forces would have shot them.

They are not in another country, they are in the UK, and if they had shot them, laid bear on the ground, they’d be up for fucking murder.

Fucking hell, I understand why the red mist fell, and I understand that the people who started this are absolute cunts, but what they did in retaliation is not fucking allowed, and that’s why the suspension and investigation is underway.

Trust me, I know you can’t do that shit, it’s basic rules of engagement.

 

[The blue phantom]

I doubt there’s any sympathy towards the **** from any right thinking person.
Still not sure it makes it right though

Exactly. Those Asian lads need the full force of the law thrown at them and prosecuted. As you say though imo it's unnecessary for those kicks and stamps to the head.

 

[carlosthejackal]

Someone cracked me from behind and assaulted my colleagues then I’d have kicked him up and down the airport

 

[Scottyboi]

Should have stamped on his head a few more times the scumbag.