He knew Mickey Mouse was in Fantasia so I suspect he was adopting a faux Philistine stance to wind up cultured Remainers, just so the Leavers can complain we think they're all thick.
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This could be made into a separate thread if Mods feel it isn’t on topic...
...but I’ve got a few questions here regarding what peoples’ actual point to their involvement in this thread is:
What did all the most vociferous Remainers on here actually do to prevent Britain leaving the EU?
There’s a very hard obsession with seemingly wanting to bask in some sort of reflected glory of being proven right (what the point in that is I have no idea!); but if you were so adamant Brexit was a bad idea, and when you saw the appallingly shit efforts put in by the Remain campaign... what did you all actually do about it?
Did you demand to speak to your local MP to question the inept or even complete lack of tactics used by the Remain campaign?
Did you create blogs/video channels/websites, did you organise meetings in your area, or even go door-to-door, to try and educate people further than what the Remain campaign were failing at doing?
Did you even get involved in the Remain campaign?
What did any of you actually do that makes you think you have a point with your continual (and very repetitive!) style of posting on this thread?
If you knew it was going to be such a shit show, surely you got off your arses and did something?!
Fair play if you all did get off your arses and do something, but if you did sod all apart vote Remain and then come on Bluemoon to moan at people for five years, then I fail to see what your point is with your posting tactics on this thread.
...but I’ve got a few questions here regarding what peoples’ actual point to their involvement in this thread is:
What did all the most vociferous Remainers on here actually do to prevent Britain leaving the EU?
There’s a very hard obsession with seemingly wanting to bask in some sort of reflected glory of being proven right (what the point in that is I have no idea!); but if you were so adamant Brexit was a bad idea, and when you saw the appallingly shit efforts put in by the Remain campaign... what did you all actually do about it?
Did you demand to speak to your local MP to question the inept or even complete lack of tactics used by the Remain campaign?
Did you create blogs/video channels/websites, did you organise meetings in your area, or even go door-to-door, to try and educate people further than what the Remain campaign were failing at doing?
Did you even get involved in the Remain campaign?
What did any of you actually do that makes you think you have a point with your continual (and very repetitive!) style of posting on this thread?
If you knew it was going to be such a shit show, surely you got off your arses and did something?!
Fair play if you all did get off your arses and do something, but if you did sod all apart vote Remain and then come on Bluemoon to moan at people for five years, then I fail to see what your point is with your posting tactics on this thread.
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PannickAtTheDisco
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This could be made into a separate thread if Mods feel it isn’t on topic...
...but I’ve got a few questions here regarding what peoples’ actual point to their involvement in this thread is:
What did all the most vociferous Remainers actually do to prevent Britain leaving the EU?
There’s a very hard obsession with seemingly wanting to bask in some sort of reflected glory of being proven right (what the point in that is I have no idea!); but if you were so adamant Brexit was a bad idea, and when you saw the appallingly shit efforts put in by the Remain campaign... what did you all actually do about it?
Did you demand to speak to your local MP to question the inept or even complete lack of tactics used by the Remain campaign?
Did you create blogs/video channels/websites, did you organise meetings in your area, or even go door-to-door, to try and educate people further than what the Remain campaign were failing at doing?
Did you even get involved in the Remain campaign?
What did any of you actually do that makes you think you have a point with your continual (and very repetitive!) style of posting on this thread?
Fair play if you all did get off your arses and do something, but if you did sod all apart vote Remain and then come on Bluemoon to moan at people for five years, then I fail to see what your point is with your posting tactics on this thread.
like complaining about Liverpool winning the league and pointing out how every little bit is awful months after, instead of moving on and focusing on winning the title back.
If remainers have lost things, maybe it will engage them to "win them back" rather than whinge about what's been and gone.
bluethrunthru
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The stupidity of Redwood and his ilk is colossal - does he think the UK Govt can pass legislation that will pass into law in the EU as well? Fucking posturing clown.
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I voted Remain myself. But I don’t understand what the point of day-after-day trying to be proven right for something that won’t change and especially if they did next to fuck all about stopping it in the first place.like complaining about Liverpool winning the league and pointing out how every little bit is awful months after, instead of moving on and focusing on winning the title back.
If remainers have lost things, maybe it will engage them to "win them back" rather than whinge about what's been and gone.
blueish swede
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The problem is that a lot of businesses don't have time to wait for things to be ironed out. This is why every business group in the UK has been calling for clarity about the deal and the rules for the past four fucking years.Just needs patience.
Someone starting a healthy diet plan can come out in spots, get headaches, feel a bit dizzy until their body adjusts. My Grandad smoked for 62 years, quit, came out in rashes and his lungs were coughing up a load of shit for a while and got a few chest infections, he wondered if he’s done the right thing. Then that all stopped and now says he feels ten years younger.
Becsuse of how shit the Tories are, we’re going to go through a fair bit of shit until adjustments are made, everything is ironed out, and we see the bigger picture. If only there’d been credible parties or credible MPs on the left or centre or even the right to vote for to lead us through all this instead of this bunch of Charlatans.
Some businesses might well go through some bad times, some might go under, but that exact thing was happening here and in other parts of the EU while we were (and they still are) in the EU. Businesses in Italy go under all the time, they’ve had five Recessions in two decades. Nothing the EU does seems to do much for Italy’s economy; and they aren’t the only ones, and aren’t in the worst state.
I’d be thinking of giving it a bit longer than 18 days after the agreement to see who’s had any positive experiences.
Most SMEs that go under are not making a loss, they go under because of cash flow problems. And it's not just companies that deal with the EU that are in danger, its companies that deal with companies that deal with the EU, and companies that deal with those companies, because when one goes under it causes a domino effect. Cash and goods get's locked in when a company goes in to administration, goods and money that belongs to their suppliers and customers so they in turn can't pay their bills either. Businesses are already runing on empty because of Covid, they don't have the capital to lay out until things are sorted out.
SMEs often settle their debts on a monthy basis (30 days net). 18 days have gone, that leaves 12 days to "iron out all the creases" before the dominos start to fall.
Really well explained
You win the post of the day award
I like to think that there is at least one balanced and well thought through post
each day
I am sadly very often disappointed.....
The first reply to the wine producers tweets from page 173 is:
"You mentioned 3 things brexiters dont understand that's cashflow, red tape and business". Truer words...
Relieved a bit by the tariffs on Falklands lamb imports increasing home demand."over zealous"? They are applying the rules as they relate to a 3rd country - try taking a ham sarnie into Australia
The next ones to have issues will be exporters of spring lamb
Rascal
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It is very hard to campaign for the status quo, that is what Remain was basically.This could be made into a separate thread if Mods feel it isn’t on topic...
...but I’ve got a few questions here regarding what peoples’ actual point to their involvement in this thread is:
What did all the most vociferous Remainers on here actually do to prevent Britain leaving the EU?
There’s a very hard obsession with seemingly wanting to bask in some sort of reflected glory of being proven right (what the point in that is I have no idea!); but if you were so adamant Brexit was a bad idea, and when you saw the appallingly shit efforts put in by the Remain campaign... what did you all actually do about it?
Did you demand to speak to your local MP to question the inept or even complete lack of tactics used by the Remain campaign?
Did you create blogs/video channels/websites, did you organise meetings in your area, or even go door-to-door, to try and educate people further than what the Remain campaign were failing at doing?
Did you even get involved in the Remain campaign?
What did any of you actually do that makes you think you have a point with your continual (and very repetitive!) style of posting on this thread?
If you knew it was going to be such a shit show, surely you got off your arses and did something?!
Fair play if you all did get off your arses and do something, but if you did sod all apart vote Remain and then come on Bluemoon to moan at people for five years, then I fail to see what your point is with your posting tactics on this thread.
Its like saying to a man stuck in quicksand, do want this rope or are you happy as you are.
Remain never offered a vision, i have posted what i thought a vision could look like and one that may have swayed me to vote remain. Leave had a vision, whether you think that vision is right or wrong doesnt matter, it was a vision, it was different and like the man stuck in quicksand, the rope appealed to him.
The efforts remain made were pitiful as well, I don't think getting a load of middle class liberals to march through London appealed to anybody north of Watford in a town that was struggling. They looked like well off latte drinking Waitrose shopping stereotypes. It further alienated those in the red wall north.
The other issue was there was no real face of remain, nobody they could rally too. Farage as much as i despise the **** was a far better face than anything remain put forward.
I do actually have real sympathy for the remain position, ironically it is the most small C conservative position whilst leave was the radical position.
The problem that leave faces now though is the government are fucking useless, they have fucked up Brexit so much its fucking shocking. That is symptomatic of Johnson though, a lazy fat **** who likes glory but not the hard work that earns it.
If remain, really need to cling to something, it is the Government they should be attacking not the leavers. Then they may get some concessions.
Statement by the Scottish Seafoods...basically they need the new rules we agreed to with the EU be suspended. Which ain’t going to happen. The EU will have no interest or incentive to do this.
There must be some people in the EU missing their Scottish shellfish. So there's some incentive not to kill off the supply.
Yet we were the ones that had one poster insisting that we had no understanding of the issue.Yeah, fishing industry needs SM/CU to survive. It won’t get it. The industry is fucked. But then the industry did say this in 2016
‘Bertie Armstrong, chief executive of the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation, said that leaving the EU would give fleets “the ability to recover proper, sustainable, rational stewardship through our own exclusive economic zone for fisheries”, comparing the situation with Norway and Iceland, which share many key North Sea fishing grounds and are not members of the EU, though they are in the European Economic Area (EEA).‘
Brexit would be fine for pretty much everyone if the UK had then done the bit in bold. They didn‘t. The industry is fucked.
It’s a bit like the DUP, keen as mustard on Brexit, but no understanding of trade, the EU, the EEA or reality.
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