Political relations between UK-EU

[Deleted member 77198]

Spent too much time on here but honed arguments to use more widely when we got the second referendum. That was the only way to stop it. And always being careful not to paint all Leavers as thick racists, even though it was obvious that thick racists had swung it (e.g. the 4% willing to vote for the BNP).

So nothing then? And by the lack of replies from the other anti-Brexit spam posters on this thread, they did absolutely nothing neither.

So you’re coming in here moaning about how shit something is that you all did close to fuck all to try and stop happening?!

I would have thought the level of obsession you all have with the continual and repetitive posting tactics on this thread, that you’d have done everything you possibly could have to stop Brexit happening.

But all you all did was vote Remain and moan on Bluemoon for five years, and ongoing.

 

[blueparrot]

So nothing then? And by the lack of replies from the other anti-Brexit spam posters on this thread, they did absolutely nothing neither.

So you’re coming in here moaning about how shit something is that you all did close to fuck all to try and stop happening?!

I would have thought the level of obsession you all have with the continual and repetitive posting tactics on this thread, that you’d have done everything you possibly could have to stop Brexit happening.

But all you all did was vote Remain and moan on Bluemoon for five years, and ongoing.

Other than voting in a different government not sure what you think the average person could do, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a crap idea, that could have been mitigated but wasn’t. Doesn’t mean it can’t be discussed.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

If you mean joining some of the campaigns, attending marches, signing petitions, writing to MP’s on numerous occasions, does that give me your permission to post my views on this thread?

I never mentioned permission, I asked what makes people think they have a point if they did nowt.

Seems you did get off your arse. It obviously didn’t work, as not enough people actually got off their arses to do something, multiple things, to stop Brexit happening.

But my next question would be, instead of the masochism of trying to bask in reflected glory for something most people did nothing to stop happening even though they never have and never will oppose something so much in their life... what is the solution?!

Because the solution is certainly not to come on to Bluemoon and moan for years on end about this. That will change precisely fuck all. So what are you going to do about this situation to make it better?

 

[stonerblue]

It's needling me though...

Stop moaning and get in the groove

 

[stonerblue]

I never mentioned permission, I asked what makes people think they have a point if they did nowt.

Seems you did get off your arse. It obviously didn’t work, as not enough people actually got off their arses to do something, multiple things, to stop Brexit happening.

But my next question would be, instead of the masochism of trying to bask in reflected glory for something most people did nothing to stop happening even though they never have and never will oppose something so much in their life... what is the solution?!

Because the solution is certainly not to come on to Bluemoon and moan for years on end about this. That will change precisely fuck all. So what are you going to do about this situation to make it better?

I'm currently bidding on a massive bus on ebay?

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Other than voting in a different government not sure what you think the average person could do, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a crap idea, that could have been mitigated but wasn’t. Doesn’t mean it can’t be discussed.

Off the top of my head in the time frame of writing one post I came up with:
Demanding to speak to your local MP to question the inept or even complete lack of tactics used by the Remain campaign.
Create blogs/video channels/websites, organise meetings in your area, or even go door-to-door, to try and educate people further than what the Remain campaign were failing at doing.
Even getting involved in the Remain campaign.

If I was as passionate about Remain winning/Brexit not happening as some on this thread appear to be (look at the posting rates on this thread, it wasn’t even left alone on Christmas Day morning for fuck’s sake!) but I did close to nothing else but vote a few times, I wouldn’t be coming on Bluemoon to moan about it every day, I’d be looking back at what I did (fuck all) with my head in my hands thinking “why the fuck didn’t I do more?!” and then I’d be actioning something for the future to make things better, not making the same mistake of doing fuck all other than moaning on Bluemoon.

 

[west didsblue]

Nearly three weeks in and it's worse than I thought.
Naively I thought that it would take several months before the impact of Brexit was felt properly once we managed to avoid No Deal.
Seems I was wrong and there's horror stories every day in all sorts of industries where it was thought it would just be a minor inconvenience.
What's even worse is that this is just for starters. The main problems will initially go largely unseen as our services sector, comprising 80% of the economy, loses more and more business to the EU due to there being no deal, no equivalence and no recognition of professional qualifications. It will become clearly apparent when tax revenues plummet putting the future prospects of the country in dire straits. These are the areas where the companies involved have implemented detailed contingency plans and have effectively managed the changes by moving elements of their businesses offshore. This means that the companies will do ok but they will be paying much less tax in the UK and more abroad where they have moved their operations.
The whole thing is a fucking abortion and it's going to get worse.

 

[mcfc1632]

You often said it, never showed anything. Can you cite anything you said about fishing except (a) I didn't understand and (b) Frost was right to give the EU a period of no change in rights (but only after he'd said it)?

Genuinely have no need to

My assertion is that you have ".....continually showed that you did not" (understand the subject of fishing - in the context of the Brexit negotiations)

The evidence is there in abundance - provided by your good self

 

[mcfc1632]

Been trawling the web fir hours this morning, well OK I went to the Guardian website, biased leftie remainers (formerly known as anyway) as they are and found this OPINION piece which makes interesting reading and can't surely reflect reality as all the Brexiteers (as they er, used to be known) on here are all solid in their continued support for and exaltation of the benefits of Brexit

Brexiters are waking up to the damage they've done | Brexit | The Guardian

Off to the Mail or the Sun next to trawl for an article telling is how well it's all going so I can take a balanced view

Rascal - you know that I enjoy your posts, but - really - Polly Toynbee

Might has well just asked Bob FFS

Actually - that prompts an interesting thought - have Bob and Polly Toynbee been ever seen in the same room?

 

[blueparrot]

Off the top of my head in the time frame of writing one post I came up with:
Demanding to speak to your local MP to question the inept or even complete lack of tactics used by the Remain campaign.
Create blogs/video channels/websites, organise meetings in your area, or even go door-to-door, to try and educate people further than what the Remain campaign were failing at doing.
Even getting involved in the Remain campaign.

If I was as passionate about Remain winning/Brexit not happening as some on this thread appear to be (look at the posting rates on this thread, it wasn’t even left alone on Christmas Day morning for fuck’s sake!) but I did close to nothing else but vote a few times, I wouldn’t be coming on Bluemoon to moan about it every day, I’d be looking back at what I did (fuck all) with my head in my hands thinking “why the fuck didn’t I do more?!” and then I’d be actioning something for the future to make things better, not making the same mistake of doing fuck all other than moaning on Bluemoon.

Whatever subject poeople don’t have to be politically active to have any opinion on something or want to discuss it. Can’t see why you are making a big deal of it. Besides we are where we are and nothing will make this government change course until public opinion changes. As businesses fail and people lose jobs that will happen, and as elections approach so might government policies.
As long as there is a thread about it posters will point out things going wrong, or if they happen things going right. Just the same as any thread really, nobody expects a post on here to change anything.