Possible new stadium - some interesting information

[marco]

does anyon e seriously belive that our owner will" tinker and fuck about with COMS?"

he has a history and pedigree and desire to produce some of the worlds most iconisc building.

do you really think we will just stick on a few extra seats whilst the rest of the surrounding area is being made to look like Buck rodgers in the 25th century?

we are gonna get a new stadium , its going to be huge and its going to be iconic and amazing and its going to make old trafford look like my back shed!!

Agreed.

most def agreed

 

[The Game 77]

What some people are forgetting is that our owner want's everything he owns to be the best no matter of the cost simple bigger and better than everyone else that is what he is like.
So when the area around COMS is being developed it's going to be the best in the world.

 

[jrb]

does anyone seriously believe that our owner will" tinker and fuck about with COMS?"

he has a history and pedigree and desire to produce some of the worlds most iconic building.

do you really think we will just stick on a few extra seats whilst the rest of the surrounding area is being made to look like Buck rodgers in the 25th century?

we are gonna get a new stadium , its going to be huge and its going to be iconic and amazing and its going to make old trafford look like my back shed!!

Never said he was going to just tinker with COMS.

Just showing at what point the roof can be dismantled(it was one of the questions which has been asked frequently) if the ultimate plan is to extend the North Stand and COMS.

Will our owner build a new stadium instead? There's nothing to suggest that's not a possibility.

 

[somapop]

I presume any plans are far from set in stone (even though a few massing models/CGI images are doing the rounds, certainly if, as suggested, some are being to used as bait for future players).
Be nice to think 'they' (ADUG, MCC, NEM) put out a worldwide design competition (as they occasionally do in the city proper).
I had a quick look at various schemes planned for Abu Dhabi (amongst other places in the world) and the work of Zaha Hadid would be very welcomed my me :)

Incidentally, Zaha Hadid did some work for the Manchester International Festival last year (the acoustically engineered concert hall).
Point being, City really shouldn't worry about reaching the hazy heights of a 100,000 seater stadium to turn heads around the world...conversely a 60,000 stadium designed by an 'unadventurous' firm of architects (and there's plenty doing their uninspiring work back in town) won't do any grand plans much justice. I won't name names, but a recent flurry of 'super stadiums' planned for the uk are essentially modern sheds attached to a monstrous 'Betterbuy'.

 

[jrb]

I presume any plans are far from set in stone (even though a few massing models/CGI images are doing the rounds, certainly if, as suggested, some are being to used as bait for future players).
Be nice to think 'they' (ADUG, MCC, NEM) put out a worldwide design competition (as they occasionally do in the city proper).
I had a quick look at various schemes planned for Abu Dhabi (amongst other places in the world) and the work of Zaha Hadid would be very welcomed my me :)

Incidentally, Zaha Hadid did some work for the Manchester International Festival last year (the acoustically engineered concert hall).
Point being, City really shouldn't worry about reaching the hazy heights of a 100,000 seater stadium to turn heads around the world...conversely a 60,000 stadium designed by an 'unadventurous' firm of architects (and there's plenty doing their uninspiring work back in town) won't do any grand plans much justice. I won't name names, but a recent flurry of 'super stadiums' planned for the uk are essentially modern sheds attached to a monstrous 'Betterbuy'.

For inspiration(not that they need any) our owners need to look no further than Portsmouth's proposed stadium that won't see the light of day now. Replace the Spinnaker with a hotel/tower, observation tower/platform.

They also designed the Allianz Arena and Beijing National Stadium.

More renders here. <a class="postlink" href="http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/hmstadium1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/30/herzog-and-de-meurons-portsmouth-stadium/&usg=__PDxCEvxULq_YE_vuV9OlSrNiYF8=&h=374&w=537&sz=67&hl=en&start=2&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=F1JCtfOxYBzHSM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dportsmouth%2Bstadium%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... s%3Disch:1</a>

 

[Project]

I love almost everything Herzog & de Meuron do. The Birds Nest is beyond stunning. Those are the kind of heights I hope Mansour and Khaldoon are aiming for.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

I love almost everything Herzog & de Meuron do. The Birds Nest is beyond stunning. Those are the kind of heights I hope Mansour and Khaldoon are aiming for.

judging by the F1 track and other developments in Abu Dhabi they don't do things by half.

I think they'll do a 60,000 that in the design plans can be easily raised to 80-100,000, hopefully they'll design it to keep the maximum amount of noise in the stadium as possible.

I don't mind COMS i quite like it but if it's not what they are looking for they so be it.

 

[not my fault!]

we already have the land, so not as expensive as others, if you look at arse for example, they are generating a lot of money, there are plenty of options to turn eastlands into another sporting event, cricket, athletics or something like that.

Lancashire could do with a new cricket gound its not up to test matched standard, that would get my vote

They have! It's being built as we speak. Phase one will be finished by the start of the season with phase two starting at the end of the season, then there are two further stands to build including a new hotel. I'm doing ome stell work and the balcony's on there at the moment. Plans look amazing with a new Tesco's being part of the third phase.

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didnt know that, what shame nothing worse than having to past that hole to get to the cricket.

'The Point' it is mainly corperate and dwarfs the Pavillion. They are planning more of the same to 'get the ashes back'.

It gives mote corperate hospitality but there does not seem to be any more normal seats.

Loads more seats mate, will find out when I'm on site tomorrow and let you know but thinks its around 2.5k at present. It looks good inside with water features etc (well there being done at the moment but will look good).<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:47 pm --<br /><br />

COMS before the North Stand was added. You can clearly see the point where the current design/capacity of the stadium can be changed.

Note the end of the roof. In essence proving the North Stand roof can be dismantled without it affecting the other sections of the roof. In theory the roof can be taken down, the upper tier can be taken apart and the lower tier can be extended to create a Kop style 25,000 seater stand, with a new roof section being added to the remaining one. That's if the North Stand and the capacity of COMS are going to be increased that way? And that's the big if.

COMS CABE EVALUATION

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Just adds to what I told you mate dont you think?

 

[Anonymous]

I love COMS but i want a new ground built, fit for us how WE want it.

 

[not my fault!]

I love COMS but i want a new ground built, fit for us how WE want it.

There is no way we will be building a new stadium, COMS will be developed. He may be rich but he aint daft, we have a great deal with the ground and future plans dictate we will not be paying much in the way of rent. When we do develop it though I'm sure the whole stadium will be given an overhall.

 

[The Fixer]

I love COMS but i want a new ground built, fit for us how WE want it.

There is no way we will be building a new stadium, COMS will be developed. He may be rich but he aint daft, we have a great deal with the ground and future plans dictate we will not be paying much in the way of rent. When we do develop it though I'm sure the whole stadium will be given an overhall.

This statement is true from what i've heard, i pm'ed ricster the other week.

 

[HelloCity]

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[not my fault!]

There is no way we will be building a new stadium, COMS will be developed. He may be rich but he aint daft, we have a great deal with the ground and future plans dictate we will not be paying much in the way of rent. When we do develop it though I'm sure the whole stadium will be given an overhall.

This statement is true from what i've heard, i pm'ed ricster the other week.

I know mate, I sent a PM to Moonbeams, Monty Burns and a few others from FA watch with info about all this in October last year. The plan was set into mothion as far back as then. Sent the PM's to jrb too so he can keep tabs and see what comes true. Although this Mirror article has pretty much covered what I said back then anyway.

 

[Corky]

I was on about compared to the part of M block and L block that have been knocked down.

I was expecting a two tier with the corperate bit in the middle when it was being built.

I like it on the upper tier opposite on F block but it is rarely open.

 

[sam the drummer]

This statement is true from what i've heard, i pm'ed ricster the other week.

I know mate, I sent a PM to Moonbeams, Monty Burns and a few others from FA watch with info about all this in October last year. The plan was set into mothion as far back as then. Sent the PM's to jrb too so he can keep tabs and see what comes true. Although this Mirror article has pretty much covered what I said back then anyway.

I'd almost forgotten about that it was so long ago, but he did indeed.

 

[not my fault!]

I know mate, I sent a PM to Moonbeams, Monty Burns and a few others from FA watch with info about all this in October last year. The plan was set into mothion as far back as then. Sent the PM's to jrb too so he can keep tabs and see what comes true. Although this Mirror article has pretty much covered what I said back then anyway.

I'd almost forgotten about that it was so long ago, but he did indeed.

Hope you kept it ;0) everything is now coming out slowly and as I said. October I sent it mate, and only now are we hearing things. Just proves that deals are not always made public until they want them to be.

 

[HelloCity]

The only way COMS could get above 60,000 is if it was rebuilt one stand at a time, starting with the North, before moving onto the East with the large amount of land behind it.

If another tier was placed on the North and South you could probably get it to 60,000 but then you have no room for anymore seats because the Colin Bell and East stands are completely unreworkable. That's why I'm thinking the redevelopment will have to be major.

 

[not my fault!]

The only way COMS could get above 60,000 is if it was rebuilt one stand at a time, starting with the North, before moving onto the East with the large amount of land behind it.

If another tier was placed on the North and South you could probably get it to 60,000 but then you have no room for anymore seats because the Colin Bell and East stands are completely unreworkable. That's why I'm thinking the redevelopment will have to be major.

The roof can be removed section by section and a third tier put under it as and when each section is removed. Not to mention the pitch could be lowered another few rows if they really wanted it to be. As shown in another thread the ends could be removed and rebuilt if needed too. All this in turn could provide us with a lot more seating. Just my theory any way.

 

[HelloCity]

I think we'll be looking at a 60,000 or so capacity COMS, with a third tier on the North and South Stands. If we're lucky then we'll have the North Stand rebuilt as a large single tier end but I think that's a huge ask.

I reckon the exterior will have a major overhaul though and the stadium will look almost unrecognisable from the outside in a few years. An iconic feature may be added!

 

[not my fault!]

I think we'll be looking at a 60,000 or so capacity COMS, with a third tier on the North and South Stands. If we're lucky then we'll have the North Stand rebuilt as a large single tier end but I think that's a huge ask.

I reckon the exterior will have a major overhaul though and the stadium will look almost unrecognisable from the outside in a few years. An iconic feature may be added!

I agree mate about the exterior, I think whatever development happens we will see a very different COMS but it wont be a new build. Exciting times ahead.