Post Match Thread: Election 2017

[worsleyweb]

Been arguing the same point with ''worsleysweb' but, guess what?

He, conveniently, ducks an actual response!

Try it with him!

Even more odd is it's his main reason for not aligning with Corbyn!

LOL!

I have ducked nothing. Not particularly happy about the dup involvement but if it means a left wing government not getting in it is a price I am prepared to pay.

 

[Bigga]

I have ducked nothing. Not particularly happy about the dup involvement but if it means a left wing government not getting in it is a price I am prepared to pay.

Okay, so explain your hate for Corbyn based upon your compromise!

It makes you look ridiculous and petty.

As you say, it's Labour you actually despise, anyway, so just say that! No argument!

Your reasoning to be anti-Corbyn, personally, is unsound is all.

 

[worsleyweb]

Okay, so explain your hate for Corbyn based upon your compromise!

It makes you look ridiculous and petty.

As you say, it's Labour you actually despise, anyway, so just say that! No argument!

Your reasoning to be anti-Corbyn, personally, is unsound is all.

I hate Corbyn as he is an extreme socialist and I don't like that politics belief. Don't hate labour - hate it in its current form.

 

[Bigga]

I hate Corbyn as he is an extreme socialist and I don't like that politics belief. Don't hate labour - hate it in its current form.

He might have a personal view, which he hasn't impressed upon the Party. This is democratic leadership, in play.

You might be a great captain of a five-a-side team, but like midget porn and some may disagree with that.

Your effectiveness to captain your team doesn't change! You just keep your sh*t to yourself as nobody likes what you like as much as you do, for the good of the team!

Not the greatest analogy, but I'm pressed for time!

 

[west didsblue]

He might have a personal view, which he hasn't impressed upon the Party. This is democratic leadership, in play.

You might be a great captain of a five-a-side team, but like midget porn and some may disagree with that.

Your effectiveness to captain your team doesn't change! You just keep your sh*t to yourself as nobody likes what you like as much as you do, for the good of the team!

Not the greatest analogy, but I'm pressed for time!

So what you're saying is Corbyn likes midget porn?

 

[Bigga]

So what you're saying is Corbyn likes midget porn?

Dodgy beards say almost anything about a man!

 

[inbetween]

What also matters is that some of the Tories most divisive policies, like the dementia tax and scrapping school dinners, will need to be re-thought.

I definitely don't disagree there, the Tories fought a miserable campaign but the amazing thing is even despite this they still became the biggest party.. Labour were still miles off in reality.

A few tweaks and a less extreme message will see them back at the pre-election predictions I think. Whether May also survives the next few weeks to be the one to write the tale is another thing.

 

[west didsblue]

I definitely don't disagree there, the Tories fought a miserable campaign but the amazing thing is even despite this they still became the biggest party.. Labour were still miles off in reality.

A few tweaks and a less extreme message will see them back at the pre-election predictions I think. Whether May also survives the next few weeks to be the one to write the tale is another thing.

The Conservative's campaign was so poor that they made Corbyn almost electable. Unfortunately for Labour, far too many people, myself included, would never vote for him due to his history. If Labour had someone like Andy Burnham leading they'd have pissed it against May. Both partys desperately need new leaders.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I definitely don't disagree there, the Tories fought a miserable campaign but the amazing thing is even despite this they still became the biggest party.. Labour were still miles off in reality.

A few tweaks and a less extreme message will see them back at the pre-election predictions I think. Whether May also survives the next few weeks to be the one to write the tale is another thing.

You might have misunderstood my point. I was saying that the Tories will struggle to get passed the more extreme elements of their manifesto. You seem to have agreed to an extent by saying the Tories will need to moderate their message. Do you agree with me or not?

 

[The perfect fumble]

I definitely don't disagree there, the Tories fought a miserable campaign but the amazing thing is even despite this they still became the biggest party.. Labour were still miles off in reality.

A few tweaks and a less extreme message will see them back at the pre-election predictions I think. Whether May also survives the next few weeks to be the one to write the tale is another thing.

Andy Burnham could not win his party's nomination. So what you're actually saying is you can't vote for Labour. Corbyn is not an aberration, he's won two Labour leadership elections in two years by stonking majorities, the membership want him and more importantly they want what he stands for, he's not going away, Corbyn's message is Labour's message.

Assuming the Tories hold it together and there's not another election in the next couple of years. Corbyn, who is 68, might hand the reigns over, if he can secure the nomination of another MP from the left of the party, the membership would almost certainly support that, that's the best you're going to get.

But Andy Burnham or another New Labour clone? Forget it, that's history.