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[supercity88]

Mike Keegan mentioned in a Daily Mail article that Sterling can buy out the final year of his contract for just 1.7 mil, forcing Liverpool to have to sell him in this window.

This cant be right, can it?

Unless they put some clause in his last contract which I find hard to believe.

From what I understood a player had to be at least 28 and in the last 2 year's of his contract to buy it out. It may have changed though.

It's the Webster ruling that you are talking about and under Article 17 of FIFA's Regs on Transfers it states that any player under the age of 28 can buy himself out of the contract three years after the deal was signed. If the player is 28 or over it's two years after the contract was signed.

All about the freedom of movement. It would likely see a settlement having to be met with Liverpool. It isn't as simple as just paying the remainder of the contract - Liverpool would be able to claim on future increase in Sterling's worth for the time period remaining on the contract - though it would still be far cheaper than paying his market value.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

So Keegans right then.

That's bloody huge in this case, as it obviously Sterling wants out.

 

[sam-caddick]

What if Sterling and his agent want 25m to buy him.

As much as I want Sterling at City I wouldn't be comfortable putting 25m in a 20 year olds bank account along with his wages.

Does it work like that?

 

[stony]

If Sterling buys out his contract and rocks up here, the shit storm in the media would be epic. If you think we get a bad press now, if that happened, we would be slaughtered. Whatever goodwill we have with the media would be gone in an instant.
Hopefully, just the threat of him doing this will be enough for Liverpool to sell at a reasonable price.

 

[bluechampion7891]

I am highly doubtful that he will leave via the Webster ruling

It is most likely a play to get his fee down and in return get him greater wages from his next club

 

[sam-caddick]

If Sterling buys out his contract and rocks up here, the shit storm in the media would be epic. If you think we get a bad press now, if that happened, we would be slaughtered. Whatever goodwill we have with the media would be gone in an instant.
Hopefully, just the threat of him doing this will be enough for Liverpool to sell at a reasonable price.

Wouldn't it be more bad press on Sterling and more so Liverpool that a player has gone to extreme lengths to get out of a club like Liverpool who pride themselves on being this elite club?

I don't see us getting much bad press out of it, the only bad press we would get is if we don't play him.

 

[supercity88]

What if Sterling and his agent want 25m to buy him.

As much as I want Sterling at City I wouldn't be comfortable putting 25m in a 20 year olds bank account along with his wages.

Does it work like that?

I'm struggling to understand how it works - didn't he sign his contract in December 2012? Which would mean he can only buy out the remainder then? It would depend on whether he buys it out or another club does. I know with Webster himself, Hearts valued him at £5m but based on his contract length they only received a fee equivalent to his wages for that period and an increase on his value in that time which was something like £675,000 including legals. The difference is that FIFA were involved because of a dispute over whether he had broken his contract under "Just means". He argued that the club had frozen him out and removed him from squad lists. With Sterling, if Liverpool kept him in their plans it wouldn't be a FIFA matter... there must still exist an opportunity to buy out his contract to free up a move.

I can't see that he could just buy out the contract and be a free agent. I think that there would be more players willing to do that in order to get huge signing on fees if it was legally a possibility.

 

[stony]

If Sterling buys out his contract and rocks up here, the shit storm in the media would be epic. If you think we get a bad press now, if that happened, we would be slaughtered. Whatever goodwill we have with the media would be gone in an instant.
Hopefully, just the threat of him doing this will be enough for Liverpool to sell at a reasonable price.

Wouldn't it be more bad press on Sterling and more so Liverpool that a player has gone to extreme lengths to get out of a club like Liverpool who pride themselves on being this elite club?

I don't see us getting much bad press out of it, the only bad press we would get is if we don't play him.

There's supposed to be a gentleman's agreement between clubs that no club will sign a player who has used the Webster ruling to buy out his contract. If that's the case then we would be lambasted for breaking it.

 

[sam-caddick]

If Sterling buys out his contract and rocks up here, the shit storm in the media would be epic. If you think we get a bad press now, if that happened, we would be slaughtered. Whatever goodwill we have with the media would be gone in an instant.
Hopefully, just the threat of him doing this will be enough for Liverpool to sell at a reasonable price.

Wouldn't it be more bad press on Sterling and more so Liverpool that a player has gone to extreme lengths to get out of a club like Liverpool who pride themselves on being this elite club?

I don't see us getting much bad press out of it, the only bad press we would get is if we don't play him.

There's supposed to be a gentleman's agreement between clubs that no club will sign a player who has used the Webster ruling to buy out his contract. If that's the case then we would be lambasted for breaking it.

You have to be joking, haha.

I am not convinced Txiki will buy that, he comes from an mindset where Real Madrid and Barcelona will do all sorts of tricks to tap up a player.

 

[stony]

Wouldn't it be more bad press on Sterling and more so Liverpool that a player has gone to extreme lengths to get out of a club like Liverpool who pride themselves on being this elite club?

I don't see us getting much bad press out of it, the only bad press we would get is if we don't play him.

There's supposed to be a gentleman's agreement between clubs that no club will sign a player who has used the Webster ruling to buy out his contract. If that's the case then we would be lambasted for breaking it.

You have to be joking, haha.

I am not convinced Txiki will buy that, he comes from an mindset where Real Madrid and Barcelona will do all sorts of tricks to tap up a player.

Where do you think the money would come from to buy out his contract? It would come from his next club. The rags could get away with something like that, even Liverpool could. Not a chance we could do it without getting crucified in the media.

 

[supercity88]

If Sterling buys out his contract and rocks up here, the shit storm in the media would be epic. If you think we get a bad press now, if that happened, we would be slaughtered. Whatever goodwill we have with the media would be gone in an instant.
Hopefully, just the threat of him doing this will be enough for Liverpool to sell at a reasonable price.

Wouldn't it be more bad press on Sterling and more so Liverpool that a player has gone to extreme lengths to get out of a club like Liverpool who pride themselves on being this elite club?

I don't see us getting much bad press out of it, the only bad press we would get is if we don't play him.

Reading more into it - he is planning on buying out one year which would leave a final year on his contract. I can't see how he can legally do that because the club are then left with the possibility of losing a lot of money. Surely it would be up to all parties involved in the contract to agree to that and Liverpool have no reason and no legal obligation to agree... I just don't get how he could do it. If he had a year left then it would be different but it just doesn't make sense. They'd surely turn around and say - you can buy the whole term of the contract out and they could argue for a lot more than just the £1,7m per annum he is on considering his market value.

If it was clear he could earn £150,000 a week, Liverpool would argue they are owed that much up to the end of the contract and if he had an offer on the table from us that would be evidence for them.

It's all very complicated but why on earth would anyone be able to buy out one year of a contract and still leave a final year in place... that doesn't add up.

 

[allan harper]

Mike Keegan mentioned in a Daily Mail article that Sterling can buy out the final year of his contract for just 1.7 mil, forcing Liverpool to have to sell him in this window.

This cant be right, can it?

Typical City, he's only got 1.6 million in the bank.

 

[VOOMER]

There's supposed to be a gentleman's agreement between clubs that no club will sign a player who has used the Webster ruling to buy out his contract. If that's the case then we would be lambasted for breaking it.

You have to be joking, haha.

I am not convinced Txiki will buy that, he comes from an mindset where Real Madrid and Barcelona will do all sorts of tricks to tap up a player.

Where do you think the money would come from to buy out his contract? It would come from his next club. The rags could get away with something like that, even Liverpool could. Not a chance we could do it without getting crucified in the media.

Stony journalist fall out of favour, we might take a little bit of flak, but who cares. Most football journalists are pond scum.

 

[CityFan94]

Liverpool are struggling with FFP, so just the threat of the £1.7 million buy-out will be enough for them to sell this summer.

I personally don't think the fee will be higher than £35 million. For arguably the best player under 21 in Europe, who's also homegrown and knows the league, that's a good deal IMO.

 

[bluechampion7891]

another joke:

Juve in Sterling hunt

Juventus have entered the race to sign Liverpool winger Raheem Sterling. The Serie A club are prepared to spend €70 million in order to land the 20-year-old.

Source: The Sun

 

[stony]

another joke:

Juve in Sterling hunt

Juventus have entered the race to sign Liverpool winger Raheem Sterling. The Serie A club are prepared to spend €70 million in order to land the 20-year-old.

Source: The Sun

Haha, you could buy Juventus for that.

 

[TrueBlue1705]

Obviously somebody's already tapped this guy up .... Do we do business like that?? According to rumours we did with Sagna

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Obviously somebody's already tapped this guy up .... Do we do business like that?? According to rumours we did with Sagna

All the big clubs in Europe have tapped players up for years,it's nothing unusual.
Apart from the rags of course,all their players come through their academy,as we know.

 

[Goater=Legend]

Sagna was coming to the end of his contract and able to speak to clubs.

 

[bluechampion7891]

Sagna was coming to the end of his contract and able to speak to clubs.

If I am not mistaken, players are allowed to talk to other clubs when they are in their last 6 months of their contract.

So wont apply to sterling