Re: txiki, soriano and mancini please take note.

Re: Will the powers that be

We need a creative midfielder to back up Silva, Nasri is too hit and miss. We need a forward because I imagine Dzeko is off, and Tevez won't be around for much longer so maybe a youngster.
 
I'm no cynic said:
The new facilities might help, but without proper coaches at junior level and without finding wonderful young players for ourselves, players with the requisite skills, temperament, ambition and dedication, then this new concept is doomed to failure.

On the contrary.

What we are doing with the academy investment more or less guarantees success. You just need deep pockets, and patience. That is all. Everything else follows.

If you want evidence for this, I give you:

_62113027_chrishoycelebrateshissixtholympicgoldmedal.jpg

laura-trott_2304490b.jpg

pendleton-350x350.jpg


London 2012 Gold medal tally:

UK 8
Rest of the World put together 10

Total and utter dominance. Why? Not because we are naturally gifted cyclists. It's because we invested in it. Focused investment specifically targeted at delivering results in the medium to long term and that is what you get.
 
Re: Will the powers that be

GX Blue said:
What would excite you all now though??

Cavani is a great player but he wouldnt excite me. Id just be happy.

Dont think theres many players at the mo where i would be really excited.
Probably just
Bale
Falcao (but we have Kun and Carlos so wont go for him)

I think we'll get Cavani and the rest young up and comers like Adam Maher from AZ.

Really need pace so maybe Reus from Dortmund would be good.

Cavani really wouldn't excite you? He'd certainly excite me.
 
Dribble said:
citysix said:
i hope your happy brian the snail..is he still at the club..
If he had any shamed he'd have fucked off when he got demoted to oversee the reserves.

It wouldn't have been the least headline grabbing thing to do, but this summer is the ideal chance for The Snail to 'resign' so he can 'spend more time with his family'.

He royally fucked up last summer & I squarely put the blame on his toes. Mancini warned what would happen, because outside of our best 16 players, the quality needed to compete at the very highest level falls off a cliff edge and this is what The Snail failed to address to our ultimate detriment.

pathetic - quotes - he was not to blame for the window.. obviously can't read. Or is it because Bobby said?
 
Dribble said:
citysix said:
i hope your happy brian the snail..is he still at the club..
If he had any shamed he'd have fucked off when he got demoted to oversee the reserves.

It wouldn't have been the least headline grabbing thing to do, but this summer is the ideal chance for The Snail to 'resign' so he can 'spend more time with his family'.

He royally fucked up last summer & I squarely put the blame on his toes. Mancini warned what would happen, because outside of our best 16 players, the quality needed to compete at the very highest level falls off a cliff edge and this is what The Snail failed to address to our ultimate detriment.
So imagine you're Brian Marwood.

Khaldoon tells you what the targets are plus the financial limits and you stick to them. Hazard's agent(s) piss you about and make all sorts of demands you feel are unreasonable but you go back to Khaldoon, who says you did right - we're not paying. Is that your fault?

Or you approach De Rossi's agent and he says "No thanks I'm staying put." Is that your fault?

Or you do all the spade work to get RVP on board and arrange a deal for Balotelli to balance the books. Then Mancini says "Over my dead body" and RVP's people get fed up and sign with the rags. Is that your fault?

That's what happened with all three transfers.

So you go to the Plan B targets and get a very promising young centre-back, an excellent young box-to-box midfielder, an experienced wing-back at minimal cost and an experienced defensive midfielder who can also cover at centre-back. You also gamble on a young wide player who'd had a good season in the PL for his club but for whatever reason hasn't really made the step up. Regardless, the owners consider you've done a good job.

Some of you are like bratty, spoilt kids who throw a tantrum in Toys'R'Us because mummy won't buy you that great big shiny fire engine.
 
de niro said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Why do people assume we can just snap our fingers and our chosen targets will come?

Last summer De Rossi didn't want to move, Hazard chose Chelsea, we screwed up over van Persie but that wasn't Marwood's fault it was Mancini's. Maicon, Nastasic, Rodwell and possibly Garcia were well on our radar. Sinclair certainly seems to have been a panic buy I'll grant you.

As I've said before, if we're involved it immediately gets more complicated, agents screw things up a lot of the time and a few transfers have fallen through simply because of their antics or demands. That will happen whoever is in charge and however professional they are. Let's see what happens this summer.

hazard was ours, nailed on, I was told to buy the shirt. then marwood dillies and dallies in order to save a few quid. as he does so Chelsea fluke the CL title. he chose them at the 11 th hour think he's joining the champions of Europe, what could go wrong.he was of course mistaken but it was too late for us to enable a replacement of that quality.

we got Sinclair.

title gone that day.

Wish you'd told me then, would have saved me the bother of renewing my season ticket
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Dribble said:
citysix said:
i hope your happy brian the snail..is he still at the club..
If he had any shamed he'd have fucked off when he got demoted to oversee the reserves.

It wouldn't have been the least headline grabbing thing to do, but this summer is the ideal chance for The Snail to 'resign' so he can 'spend more time with his family'.

He royally fucked up last summer & I squarely put the blame on his toes. Mancini warned what would happen, because outside of our best 16 players, the quality needed to compete at the very highest level falls off a cliff edge and this is what The Snail failed to address to our ultimate detriment.
So imagine you're Brian Marwood.

Khaldoon tells you what the targets are plus the financial limits and you stick to them. Hazard's agent(s) piss you about and make all sorts of demands you feel are unreasonable but you go back to Khaldoon, who says you did right - we're not paying. Is that your fault?

Or you approach De Rossi's agent and he says "No thanks I'm staying put." Is that your fault?

Or you do all the spade work to get RVP on board and arrange a deal for Balotelli to balance the books. Then Mancini says "Over my dead body" and RVP's people get fed up and sign with the rags. Is that your fault?

That's what happened with all three transfers.

So you go to the Plan B targets and get a very promising young centre-back, an excellent young box-to-box midfielder, an experienced wing-back at minimal cost and an experienced defensive midfielder who can also cover at centre-back. You also gamble on a young wide player who'd had a good season in the PL for his club but for whatever reason hasn't really made the step up. Regardless, the owners consider you've done a good job.

Some of you are like bratty, spoilt kids who throw a tantrum in Toys'R'Us because mummy won't buy you that great big shiny fire engine.
...or that brand new manager you keep hankereing after.

Pot & kettle there bud.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I'm no cynic said:
The new facilities might help, but without proper coaches at junior level and without finding wonderful young players for ourselves, players with the requisite skills, temperament, ambition and dedication, then this new concept is doomed to failure.

On the contrary.

What we are doing with the academy investment more or less guarantees success. You just need deep pockets, and patience. That is all. Everything else follows.

If you want evidence for this, I give you:

_62113027_chrishoycelebrateshissixtholympicgoldmedal.jpg

laura-trott_2304490b.jpg

pendleton-350x350.jpg


London 2012 Gold medal tally:

UK 8
Rest of the World put together 10

Total and utter dominance. Why? Not because we are naturally gifted cyclists. It's because we invested in it. Focused investment specifically targeted at delivering results in the medium to long term and that is what you get.


Track Cycling - arghhhh!
We threw shed loads of money at something that required little talent (including rowing) and that few other countries took seriously. It may be more difficult with the worldwide beautiful game.
 
There are many reasons for our failure to retain the title, one of which appears to be last August's transfer window. I'm still not convinced that we were ever in with a real shout of De Rossi or Martinez, just as I doubt we would ever meet Hazard's financial demands. Van Persie wouldn't get a five year contract at City, not on anything like the wages United were prepared to pay. The failure was in the "B" list we did sign, and this I think was due to a vacuum at the centre of the club. Cooke had gone, Soriano didn't take up his duties until Sept 1 and Begiristain - whose responsibility "player acquisition" will be - wasn't appointed until October 28. This left Marwood, doing a job he knew he wouldn't keep and unsure of what could be spent. The result was the apparent chaos of last August, but I doubt there will be a repeat. I suspect our "new people" will have talked at length with Roberto and that they'll be much more assertive than we were last year and that we'll see some exciting arrivals and more than one exit, but I don't think there'll be any massive purge of players. At Barca "rebuilding the team" meant 3 key replacements, and, at City I think the feeling is that we do have the best team in the PL already.
 

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