Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

Paladin said:
Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Why can't it just be that certain referees favour certain clubs, or certain referees despise City?

Lahoz for one, never showed us any leniency or favour and always seemed to go against us. It's well rumoured that City had a dossier to show that one referee held a bias against us, and that referee was removed from City games before retiring to the USA. Also that City had a dossier of evidence to show that Raheem Sterling was unfairly treated by referees. Numerous referees have stated publicly that they favoured United, and there is evidence that United had influence in the selection of referees. (Winter never refereed United again, after having the audacity to dismiss Roy Keane).

There is no conspiracy needed here. It's just plainly evident that certain teams are favoured and certain teams are prejudiced against. Webb and his predecessors should not be appointing these biased referees in certain games.
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What does it matter? There are no refs who ever favour us. Not one. So 50% of refs are intrinsically biased against us vs. instructed by UEFA/PGMOL. Same outcome.
 
halfcenturyup said:
So what do we think the refereeing team will be like tonight? I will make some predictions:

Less skillful team won't be allowed to kick more skillful team around the park
First yellow card for Copenhagen
No yellow card for Rodri
No yellow card for Guardiola
No controversial VAR decisions
No two minute delays for VAR offside calls
After the game we will be saying the ref was good, who was he?

And for the weekend:

Chelsea's cloggers will be allowed to kick City around the park
First yellow card for City
Yellow card for Rodri
Yellow card for Guardiola
Two controversial VAR decisions
Two minute delays for VAR offside calls
After the game we will be saying the ref was corrupt
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Aside from the infamous David Luis on Aguero (which was blatantly corrupt), I actually dont remember us getting shafted against Chelsea much if at all
 
lasereyes said:
Aside from the infamous David Luis on Aguero (which was blatantly corrupt), I actually dont remember us getting shafted against Chelsea much if at all
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Anyway, I’m going to let this thread breathe for a while, so won’t post unless asked directly to respond.

I did see what you wrote and apologise for monopolising the thread this morning, but can guarantee that it isn’t a WUMming mission and that I genuinely believe referees get far more stick than they should. As a result, the ones who believe differently get quoted more and so have more messages to respond to.

Some may be rotten, but that’s all a feeling rather than provable.

Anyway, peace to all of you.
 
cleavers said:
By saying they support(ed) clubs like Altincham ?

They're all into football if they are referee's, which means that they will likely have a club they support, it doesn't have to be corruption, it can simply be bias, or even simply media influence.
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I think whether a Ref is from Bristol or Bromsgrove the drip drip press negatively against our club poisons minds. Fans all over the country have a negative opinion of us as it’s drummed into them via the media on a daily basis, Refs are no different.
 
Kippax77 said:
Their latest one which no doubt be used for the next 2 decades is Rodri's penalty at the swamp this season.
Neville still brings it up if their is a soft penalty at any game he's covering.
So do the rags in work every time I slag Bruno rat off for diving.
They compare his dive a Wigan in the cup to Rodri getting pulled down in the box by 'the quiniderm man' as the same action.
Just pure bullshit
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Amazing they say this stuff with a straight face
 
Kippax77 said:
Their latest one which no doubt be used for the next 2 decades is Rodri's penalty at the swamp this season.
Neville still brings it up if their is a soft penalty at any game he's covering.
So do the rags in work every time I slag Bruno rat off for diving.
They compare his dive a Wigan in the cup to Rodri getting pulled down in the box by 'the quiniderm man' as the same action.
Just pure bullshit
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Two decades you say, just in time for our next Pen at Scarecrow Jim’s, Wembleee of da Norf
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Refs are human. They are susceptible to crowd and player influence. Unless robots are employed, that will never change. Fans of each team think they are swayed against their own side as they only remember the negative decisions and not the positive.

The mindset of having to moan about every refereeing performance regardless of result will always be alien to me. The result doesn’t seem to matter to some people. As long as they can shout corruption in the designated threads, they’re happy and anyone who doesn’t have the same need is contrarian, condescending [add other adjectives] etc.

The explanation ”just look how we are refereed” isn’t a reason. it’s a gut feeling based on tribalism. Refs will always have to make marginal calls. Some will go for your team and some will go against it. It’s the nature of the game.

Ultimately, people love a good moan.
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I'd love a good honest ref better than any moan.
 
So many united and dipper fans in this country............and yet not one referee in the whole country supports either united or dippers (and to my knowledge never has been). Food for thought?
 
Sky Blue said:
Lost 2-1 at Stamford Bridge under Mancini. Some dodgy decisions that night. Nailed on pen not given for us at 1-0. Then an iffy one to give them the win.
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Twattenburg I think.
David Silva brought down if I remember correctly and the ref on his haunches with a clear view waves it away and runs off in the other direction.
Clichy sent off.
Our first defeat that season and it was December
 
The lack of respect for referees is a sad part of football, at all levels and punishments should be more severe, in my opinion. But at the top level PYGMOL and the PL hang them out to dry. I think this because with one gesture they could change this and that is, open the dialogue to the fans, show and explain the decisions being arrived at on the screens and commentary. While PYGMOL and the PL hide behind this mafia style Omerta on everything they decide, it does not help referees one iota and leaves referees carrying the can for decisions that with openness could be avoided. The enemy are not referees, who after years of hard work in lower leagues arrive at the top, but PYGMOL and the PL who hide behind their silence and refuse to move with the times and technology. In short they like their feathered nest.
 
Here's a slightly different take on it.
We have to believe that refs (OK some not all) don't favour certain teams.
Yet we have retired ref with his own slot on Sly analysing decisions every Monday who somehow always seems to back decisions that go the way of these 'certain teams' (I think you know which teams I'm talking about).
Maybe he just favours them because he's paid too and I shouldn't be making a comparison between active refs and 'media refs'.
 
Kippax77 said:
Here's a slightly different take on it.
We have to believe that refs (OK some not all) don't favour certain teams.
Yet we have retired ref with his own slot on Sly analysing decisions every Monday who somehow always seems to back decisions that go the way of these 'certain teams' (I think you know which teams I'm talking about).
Maybe he just favours them because he's paid too and I shouldn't be making a comparison between active refs and 'media refs'.
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Would this be the same **** ex referee who said that Ben Godfrey was 'hunting for the ball' when he kicked out at Ederson?
 
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