Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

[meltonblue]

Negative effects, as in manipulating the game as he did by not sending NdJ in the WC Final?

The perfect bloke for the PL, the way they work will be accepted as so.

WWE, they have their way.

They normally have heels and faces though don’t they? Decisions this year have been roundly shit, I don’t think anyone has purely benefitted.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Negative effects, as in manipulating the game as he did by not sending NdJ in the WC Final?

The perfect bloke for the PL, the way they work will be accepted as so.

WWE, they have their way.

I mean, if I felt like that, I wouldn’t be a football fan anymore.

Fortunately, I don’t.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

It's not bent, the standard of ref is just at a low ebb i.e. they're shit.

 

[cheekybids]

Watching ITV news there and their report on the Turkish ref assault included a little snippet on Haaland v Spurs. I can understand why but at the same time Klopp gave the fourth official obscene levels of abuse during their home game against Spurs last season and that barely got a mention compared to Haaland's response.

There is absolutely no reason why apart from a clear & organised attack on our club.

 

[bluenova]

Am I confusing this, are you calling CiL a flat earther, attacking the individual instead of the debating point?

Apologies if I’m wrong, not kept up with previous debate.

I'm asking if it really is the "most probable explanation".

The flat earther comment was a suggestion to take a step back and think whether that's how people really do operate, and how practical it would be if it was something more sinister than a mistake.

 

[cheekybids]

It ultimately all boils down to the third error in the ones you referenced earlier. If he doesn’t do that, then you’d be praising him, not thinking the other two were errors at all.

So focussing on that error, he blows his whistle when the ball is crossing the half way line, he initiates blowing his whistle even before that. At that point, if you really think every error is benefitting Spurs, then it’s because even then, he knows that Grealish is going to be through on goal and end up with a good goal scoring chance.

At that point, the likelihood to me is far more the other way. He's seeing three defenders in close proximity to the player receiving the ball and a player playing a through ball whilst off balance.

What he should have done is wait longer and then make the decision. That he didn’t is a huge error. I think he did that because the point he whistled, he thought it more likely Spurs would recover the ball and didn’t want that to happen before he called it back for the foul.

For your explanation to be right, he’d have to be a bloody amazing actor given his reaction after it as well as showing a very high level of competence and decision making in minimal time in order to screw us over for what would have been still a fairly low xG to use your earlier reference at best. I just don’t see that as a most probable explanation at all, not when you see errors and examples of incompetence seen all the time in virtually every match.

That and you go on any ref forum and they’ll say they’ve made the same mistake themselves, it’s entirely understandable
to them, albeit not forgivable at the level he’s at.

Hes still getting absolute pelters on it and deservedly so. The most probable explanation is incompetence though and I’m pretty sure you really know that yourself.

To say again, I say most probable. Anyone that thinks he did it intentionally, you’re perfectly entitled to that view too.

You are still talking nonsense at the point he blew Grealish was away & he had a perfect view. The Spurs defenders have to turn whilst Grealish has left them for dust, he’s not getting caught.

He’s been asked his reason & he has never said I didn’t think there was an advantage. He’s had every opportunity to say that but he didn’t.

His response is he never played advantage. I’m saying he’s a lying **** & you say he’s telling the truth yet you’ve had to insert your own theory.

 

[cheekybids]

Yeah, I’m sure they’re all working out how to fix each game as we type.

No one’s saying that but if you get dropped possibly lose your job for making a mistake against a group of teams & fuck all against another group then your judgement is going to be impacted.

 

[SatOnTheWall]

I don’t think he thought there was an advantage as such as there wasn’t any at that stage, I think he was waiting to see if there was one.

And then when there was one, he blew for the free kick.

There is no justification for this decision at all.

Whatever he did it for, the effect remains, that MCFC were denied the opportunity to win that match.

I think Grealish (or whoever this happens to next) should have just ignored the ref, carried on and put the ball in the net and let var sort it out.

 

[Chris in London]

I saw a video last week where a flat earther said exactly the same thing.

In my view the "most probable" explanation is usually a fuck up, rather than a conspiracy theory. Thinking of my own working life, most people make mistakes all the time, particularly when they're making then quickly. Very few wide ranging conspiracies seem to occur ;)

Good for you.

Thinking of my own working life, people tell lies to cover their own backsides.

 

[Chris in London]

Where does that get you?

To the point where I don’t have to invent excuses to explain what is as clear as day