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SebastianBlue said:
Not really. And the frequency of “mistakes” appears to be increasing with the new batch of officials and *certain* members of the old guard taking over VAR.

Of course, it’s all incompetence, nothing more, and will continue to be merely incompetence, even if it becomes a feature of every match in the future.

After all, the league have no power whatsoever to address the incompetence or make officiating (including VAR) more transparent. If they could, they would, but they can’t. The incompetence is a force of nature; human error—no matter how prevalent or egregious or seemingly mitigatible to reasonable observers—cannot be fixed.

It is a force of nature in football.

Inmutable. Unassailable. Eternal.

We fans must except this and understand the league are powerless to oppose it.
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Accept what?

Accept human error, certainly. Accept that VAR can correct wrong decisions, certainly.

Accept that the VAR can't get it wrong - hardly, the VAR is human.

Accept that it can't be more transparent, absolutely not. MLS review the controversial decisions. And MLS will admit after-the-event when ref and VAR together haven't got it right.

www.espn.co.uk

Howard Webb on how MLS is getting VAR right and what other leagues can learn

If there's one man to speak to about VAR, it's Howard Webb. ESPN talks to the head of referees in MLS about why it's viewed as successful.
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Vic said:
Accept what?

Accept human error, certainly. Accept that VAR can correct wrong decisions, certainly.

Accept that the VAR can't get it wrong - hardly, the VAR is human.

Accept that it can't be more transparent, absolutely not. MLS review the controversial decisions (and before you ask, I don't know how "accurate" the offside lines are that PGMOL draws and it seems obvious that the frame speed makes it hard to determine the moment when the ball is "played". And MLS will admit after-the-event when ref and VAR together haven't got it right.

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My tongue was planted firmly in my cheek for that post.
 
The strategy has been clear from the outset. They didn't want it, but could no longer resist the pressure for it to be introduced, so did so in such an appalling way as to create the hysteria to have it removed in the hope that gullible fans would welcome a return to the "good old days".

So keep it - but first kick-out the twats who are responsible for this shit-show of an implementation.

And whatever happens, keep the grubby, greedy bastards at sky and the broader media well away, including any ex-pros such as those employed as so-called experts and pundits.
 
1961_vintage said:
The strategy has been clear from the outset. They didn't want it, but could no longer resist the pressure for it to be introduced, so did so in such an appalling way as to create the hysteria to have it removed in the hope that gullible fans would welcome a return to the "good old days".

So keep it - but first kick-out the twats who are responsible for this shit-show of an implementation.

And whatever happens, keep the grubby, greedy bastards at sky and the broader media well away, including any ex-pros such as those employed as so-called experts and pundits.
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Virtually every facet of the game is now infected one way or another.
 
I have to suggest this:

Each manager gets 1 referee challenge per match to challenge a clear and obvious refereeing error.

Otherwise let the game flow as it did earlier and NOTHING GOES TO USELESS VAR. No offside, no foul in the build up, no inventing stuff.
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
I have to suggest this:

Each manager gets 1 referee challenge per match to challenge a clear and obvious refereeing error.

Otherwise let the game flow as it did earlier and NOTHING GOES TO USELESS VAR. No offside, no foul in the build up, no inventing stuff.
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I suggested something similar with my mate, each manager or captain gets 1 challenge, if successful it’s retained if not then its lost. It works in the NRL, it works for DRS in cricket, still baffling how consistently VAR is still getting things wrong when the other sports using video technology got it right much quicker.
 
warringtonblue said:
I’m not saying we didn’t contribute to not winning today but I was there and seen their keeper telling the ball boys to refrain from getting the ball back quick, he also had a drink before numerous dead ball kicks and then late in the game went down with a fictitious injury that entailed throwing the ball out so he could receive attention for this supposed injury.
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Guaita for Palace is another 2 minute goal kick twat. Unless the whistling wankers start to book their blatant time wasting antics in the first fucking half nothing will change. They usually 'stamp' on the bollocks in the 88th minute. TOO LATE........
 
Silvas Left Peg said:
I suggested something similar with my mate, each manager or captain gets 1 challenge, if successful it’s retained if not then its lost. It works in the NRL, it works for DRS in cricket, still baffling how consistently VAR is still getting things wrong when the other sports using video technology got it right much quicker.
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Yes me and my dad like the DRS challenge for LBW's and caught/ not caught but what VAR has become now is they're actively reviewing it for every possible no ball.
 
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