Ref Watch

asahartford1 said:
Oliver and Taylor for me.

So who are your top two ?

I agree with the basis of your reply. I wish they would referee rather than manage, a directive from Pigmol
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I’m not familiar with the newly appointed refs, Craig pawson is quite a decent ref imo and andy madley is usually more good than bad, agree about Oliver, my nickname for him is all about me Oliver, as he imo always wants to be centre stage but the mark of a good ref is the one you hardly notice during the game.
 
Stephen230 said:
Ok mate. I’m not going to spend all day arguing. I’m happy for you to believe whatever tales your United friends tell you. Although if you are interested in the truth you may wish to inform them that the father of this long line of rags is from the North East and has always been a Sunderland fan.
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Think you’ll find that’s Micheal Oliver
 
blue is best said:
I’m not familiar with the newly appointed refs, Craig pawson is quite a decent ref imo and andy madley is usually more good than bad, agree about Oliver, my nickname for him is all about me Oliver, as he imo always wants to be centre stage but the mark of a good ref is the one you hardly notice during the game.
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Pawson is absolutely appalling. Can think of many, many matches he has screwed us over. He had a penchant for letting David Silva get kicked to fuck, to put it mildly.
 
richardtheref said:
He twice played advantage to Wolves when they were 80 yards away from goal and a man down. Having possesion does not automatically mean you have an advantage
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I read an interesting interview with Michael Oliver once where he said it’s important to realise that different teams need refereeing differently when it came to applying advantage. He used Stoke as an example and said he knew they would virtually always prefer a free kick. Because of that he would very rarely apply advantage after a foul on a Stoke player, when he would have done in an identical situation with other teams. Good understanding of the game and refereeing.
 
Do we always prefer to play on instead of being awarded a penalty then? We don't call Oliver the bottler for nothing. Think of the three penalties he didn't give us against united a few years ago and his performance at Anfield to mention just two of his matches involving us.
 
Despite the result at Wolves, Anthony Taylor is usually bad news for City.

Last season, Taylor refereed City in 4 PL games (Spurs home & away, West Ham away & Liverpool). City won none of them.
In total across the other 34 games & all other refs, City lost just once.

City win %ges last season:

Without Taylor: 85.3%
With Taylor: 0%
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I’ve mentioned this many times on here, but I’ve got three links to the bloke:
One mate went to school with him, another mate used to play for Alty who knows Taylor fairly well through Taylor’s interest in my mate through playing for Alty, a third mate is married to Taylor’s wife’s mate… as bizarre as it is, as uncommon this situation of someone from round here not being either City or United; Anthony Taylor is genuinely an Altrincham fan.

Lee Mason on the other hand - now he is a United fan!

I don’t know why some Blues get so worked up about Anthony Taylor. For me, he’s the best ref in the country these days. That’s why we get him for so many of our big games.

And why get worked up about Anthony Taylor so much but never get worked up about Lee Mason? It seems a bit odd, a bit like we’ve got a bunch of fans who are a bit obsessed with him.

He had a couple of shockers not sending off David Luiz and changing his mind to send of Fabian Delph, but outside that he’s usually a very good ref for us. Barely anything else controversial has ever happened with him.
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I thought we did get worked up about Mason, he's a fat **** that has done us over time and time again.
 
Blue Theatre said:
Despite the result at Wolves, Anthony Taylor is usually bad news for City.

Last season, Taylor refereed City in 4 PL games (Spurs home & away, West Ham away & Liverpool). City won none of them.
In total across the other 34 games & all other refs, City lost just once.

City win %ges last season:

Without Taylor: 85.3%
With Taylor: 0%
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I thought the Spurs defeats were of our own making tbh and we ballsed up the chance to win at West Ham when Mahrez missed the pen. Not convinced that Taylor was much of a factor in those results.
 
lancs blue said:
I thought the Spurs defeats were of our own making tbh and we ballsed up the chance to win at West Ham when Mahrez missed the pen. Not convinced that Taylor was much of a factor in those results.
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Taylor was front and centre in out defeat at Spurs….he let them kick the shit out of us…. Who was that full back who got 3 final warnings?
 
nmc said:
Taylor was front and centre in out defeat at Spurs….he let them kick the shit out of us…. Who was that full back who got 3 final warnings?
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Maybe true, but we can't keep missing the chances we did in those games.

That is what costs, the home game, we had 21-6 shots, 79-21% possession, 10-0 corners, they should have been hammered regardless of the referee. The defending at the end also cost us, it was stupid.

It wasn't much better in the away game either, more shots, more on target, more possession, and more corners.

We don't lose very often, so it's easy to blame referee's, but our players are often more to blame I'm afraid.
 
For those advocating we look to Europe to find some proper refs who know how to control a game.

Sendings off so far this season:

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Blue Theatre said:
Despite the result at Wolves, Anthony Taylor is usually bad news for City.

Last season, Taylor refereed City in 4 PL games (Spurs home & away, West Ham away & Liverpool). City won none of them.
In total across the other 34 games & all other refs, City lost just once.

City win %ges last season:

Without Taylor: 85.3%
With Taylor: 0%
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I was at 3 out of 4 of those and Taylor was certainly not at fault.
But let's bring back Dowd and Mason, proper refs.
A preconceived bias is never the best approach to fair judgement.
 
TonyColemansbagofapples said:
For what it's worth I think there really is a top official in Taylor but it is really difficult to erase that Chelsea match from my head. One of the most corrupt performances I've ever witnessed.
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Not to mention the penalty at West Ham last season. Every angle showed a clear foul with Alty having a good view, yet he still needed a long look at the monitor before awarding it.
 
Stephen230 said:
I read an interesting interview with Michael Oliver once where he said it’s important to realise that different teams need refereeing differently when it came to applying advantage. He used Stoke as an example and said he knew they would virtually always prefer a free kick. Because of that he would very rarely apply advantage after a foul on a Stoke player, when he would have done in an identical situation with other teams. Good understanding of the game and refereeing.
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That explains why he likes to block out passing link ups when reffing us.
 
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