cheekybids
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And the commentary will be that it’s deserved cuz City are cheats.
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And the commentary will be that it’s deserved cuz City are cheats.
If van Hecke held Haaland like that, would it be given a penalty by VAR?Didn’t really see that as double standards any more than the usual between defenders and attackers tbh.
The Silva one wasn’t enough for a penalty, the Haaland one was enough to disallow a goal.
Edit: Colwill, not van Hecke
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meltonblue
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If van Hecke held Haaland like that, would it be given a penalty by VAR?
Probably not, for the reason I said :)
It’s the same with corners, the bar is always lower for attackers than it is for defenders.
That's why I think it shouldn't have been disallowed. If you can take away a goal for an attacker pulling a shirt like that, you should get a free shot at goal (i.e. a penalty) for a defender pulling a shirt like that.Probably not, for the reason I said :)
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That's why I think it shouldn't have been disallowed. If you can take away a goal for an attacker pulling a shirt like that, you should get a free shot at goal (i.e. a penalty) for a defender pulling a shirt like that.
Ah you’re saying if it was a guaranteed goal? In which case then probably yes. Doesn’t happen that often though.
No, the scenario I'm posing is the exact reverse of what happened (Colwill holding Haaland in the same situation).Ah you’re saying if it was a guaranteed goal? In which case then probably yes. Doesn’t happen that often though.
Edit: Just that instead of Colwill heading it into his own goal, he's clearing it with his head.
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meltonblue
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No, the scenario I'm posing is the exact reverse of what happened (van Hecke holding Haaland in the same situation).
Ah ok. In that scenario, on pitch, some would give it, some wouldn’t, I remember Laporte winning a penalty for similar. I highly doubt VAR would intervene either way in that scenario though.
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Might be able to buy himself a new suit.
He looked a fucking mess.
As for the ref......he did ok.....but i am convinced we are officiated to a higher standard.
A bit like Pep is 'expected' to win stuff so he doesnt quite get the accolades he should from some.....i feel our players need to be squeaky clean to stop us being penalised or need to be blatantly fouled in order to win a decision.
Haaland is most definitely on the receiving end of very harsh decisions,to rule that goal out was utterly ridiculous given that shit goes on all over the pitch throughout the 90 mins.
SatOnTheWall
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How are they different?Didn’t really see that as double standards any more than the usual between defenders and attackers tbh.
The Silva one wasn’t enough for a penalty, the Haaland one was enough to disallow a goal.
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The shirt colour
He had to rule them out. One was offside and the other was a clear handball.Don't think the ref was dodgy at all. They were always going to give it as a foul.
Plus, Brighton had two goals of their own ruled out. Ref didn't have to do that.
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Soft decision not to give our goal, but I do think this ref was fairly decent, and has been previously
Hooper about the best of a very bad bunch.
halfcenturyup
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Hooper about the best of a very bad bunch.
I am not sure "best" is the right word, implies a superior level of competence, but he seems to be the fairest with City. Anyone who has a problem with his performance last night is just looking for issues I think. Got pretty much all the decisions right and I guess that is all you can ask for. And, trust me, since the Rashford non-offside goal, I don't give any benefit of the doubt to the referees any more ....
He is not the only one who gets in the way!I'm ignoring the var decision for now.
Don't think much of this ref, but most of his decisions were ok. The thing that hindered us most was the amount of passing options he managed to block in midfield. Not sure if he's a bit clueless or it's deliberate.
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ermmmm one was clearly offside & the other has handled leading directly to a goal, both these are established rules/laws of football, the officials ‘do’ have to give them, otherwise VAR would intervene under clear & obvious, which I’m sure you’ll agree. Now I’m not saying Hooper was dodgy, but we have to ask how much of the actual incident was played to him on the monitor for a true reflection? If it’s just Haaland pulling his shirt then foul, if it’s the whole play then for me it’s a goal. It’s these minor manipulations that infuriate Pep, to the point of wanting to grip the official, it needs calling out by the club but now is not the time. All season clips of Haaland being aggressive, giving as good as he’s got have been played out on highlight reels on programs like motd, the narrative has been set that he’s a big bully & gets away with being overly aggressive towards defenders, it’ll get a lot worse next seasonDon't think the ref was dodgy at all. They were always going to give it as a foul.
Plus, Brighton had two goals of their own ruled out. Ref didn't have to do that.
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How are they different?
I thought the Haaland one was a bigger pull back. That coupled with the bar being different for attackers than to defenders, particularly if a goal comes from it.
If you flip the clubs around, I’d have been more annoyed had either decision gone against us.
'Didn't have to do that'Don't think the ref was dodgy at all. They were always going to give it as a foul.
Plus, Brighton had two goals of their own ruled out. Ref didn't have to do that.
The bloke took it over the line like a rugby player. I accept the ref could have given it but he would have looked the biggest fool in world and if Var didn't intervene it would have highlighted what a bent system it is.